Official bitching about Hudson abandoning VC support. [VC/WiiWare = lost cause]

Luigison said:
And we "should" get both on VC on Christmas Eve in North America! I'll bet a month ban that we don't get either. That way if I lose the bet I'll have a GAF free month to play Mega Man and/or Final Fantasy, and if I win the bet I can come to GAF to complain about not getting them.
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Arrgh!
 
I'm LOVING Donkey Kong Country 3! I must have been DKC'd out by the time this game released on SNES, because I'm liking it a whole lot more now than I thought I would. Fantastic game.
 
mosaic said:
If you remember the Neo Geo version, then sure.

If you're remembering the NES version, then take a deep breath and consider that you can't edit teams or upgrade players. The Neo Geo game was a balls-out "hit em far" arcade game with large characters and flashy 16-bit visuals.

Now, me, I LOVE me some Baseball Stars 2. It does what The Bigs and other recent games didn't--makes baseball seem exciting.
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Oh so the Neo Geo version is basically the arcade game?

I hope the NES version comes out.

I just grabbed sin and punishment. I'm going to run out of space if I download 5 more N64 games it seems. :/
 
So I got 8000 Wii points for Christmas (erm. Yeah.)
What do I buy?

I already have:
Zelda I
Zelda II
Super Metroid
Soldier Blade
Bomberman '93
Street Fighter 2: Turbo
Donkey Kong Country
Donkey Kong Country 2
The Lost Levels (SMB)
 
Slavik81 said:
So I got 8000 Wii points for Christmas (erm. Yeah.)
What do I buy?

I already have:
Zelda I
Zelda II
Super Metroid
Soldier Blade
Bomberman '93
Street Fighter 2: Turbo
Donkey Kong Country
Donkey Kong Country 2
The Lost Levels (SMB)
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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=8722404&postcount=15780

At the bottom is my list of recommendations based on what I've played, and Youtube links to the games. Considering what you already have, I'd say:

Adventures of Lolo (500 so far)
Dragon's Curse (1100)
The Dynastic Hero or Wonder Boy in Monster World (1900)
Neutopia II (2500)
Gunstar Heroes (3300)
Landstalker (4100)
Streets of Rage 2 (4900)
Legend of the Mystical Ninja (5700)
Sin and Punishment (6900)
Star Fox 64 (7900)

Leaves you with 100 points remaining, but it looks like a good bet to me. Contingent on whether you've played any of these before, of course. :P Normally Super Star Soldier would dethrone nearly anything else on this list, but you've already got Soldier Blade in the same series, so you should know whether or not it's worth looking into to you.

I'm also assuming you've played Legend of Zelda: ALttP and Super Mario World already. If not, Zelda takes precedence over anything else on the above list. As for SMW, you could take out TDH/Wonder Boy since Dragon's Curse is cheaper and in the same series, to give you a very similar style of gameplay already. ...Come to think of it, you might want to pick up only one out of TDH/Wonder Boy and Dragon's Curse at first anyway, to make sure you enjoy the series before you jump in on both games.
 
Japanese schedule for January's up and it's pretty great:

FC:
-Yie Air Kung Fu
-Master Takahashi's Adventure Island
-Devil World
-Mappy

SFC:
-Super R-Type

N64:
-1080 Snowboarding

MD:
-Phantasy Star II
-Monster World IV

PCE:
-Samurai Ghost
-Super Air Zonk
-Neo Nectaris (CD Military Madness)

NG:
-Nothing again!

EU, AU and US all get Riot Zone as the only TG game in January.
 
Capndrake said:
Japanese schedule for January's up and it's pretty great (Can anybody translate the three I don't know?):

N64:
-1080 Snowboarding

EU, AU and US all get Riot Zone as the only TG game in January.
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I want 1080 to come to the states so bad.
 
Riot Zone as the only TG-16 game in January is pretty much the worst thing ever. Why do we have to keep waiting for Ys?

Nice to see Phantasy Star games finally coming, though. I'm surprised they waited this long. I also want to see Devil World and Monster World IV make it over as imports.

A lot of the Japanese list is catch-up from what we have already, though, so it's not much use for predicting our releases.
 
speedpop said:
Phantasy Star II eh? Has the first one gone up already?
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The first one is a Master System / Mark III game. Though, the MD did receive a straight port of the first game in Japan.
 
RedBoot said:
A lot of the Japanese list is catch-up from what we have already, though, so it's not much use for predicting our releases.
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I don't think that goes for Neo Geo games though, or does it? So far, every game that has been released in the west had been released in Japan beforehand, so that's why I think that there will be a NG-drought once Top Hunter and KOF94 have come out.
 
Samuray said:
I don't think that goes for Neo Geo games though, or does it? So far, every game that has been released in the west had been released in Japan beforehand, so that's why I think that there will be a NG-drought once Top Hunter and KOF94 have come out.
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Still need Samurai Shodown.
 
Capndrake said:
-Neo Nectaris (CD Military Madness)
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It's a little bit more than just a CD version of Military Madness. It has a whole new scenario with some new units, and the combat scenes are now isometric. And of course enhanced music. (youtube)

The retail version also included the original Nectaris, it'll be interesting to see if they take that out or not. (assuming it ever does make it over)
 
RedBoot said:
Riot Zone as the only TG-16 game in January is pretty much the worst thing ever. Why do we have to keep waiting for Ys?
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Well, it's the only game currently listed on the vc-pce.com Web site... that doesn't necessarily mean it's the only one coming out in January. They're not especially religious about keeping it up to date.
 
mcgarrett said:
Well, it's the only game currently listed on the vc-pce.com Web site... that doesn't necessarily mean it's the only one coming out in January. They're not especially religious about keeping it up to date.
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Sadly, it is. They always put up all the games for the next month on the last Friday of the previous one. There's only been one exception where they added an extra game, and that was Super Air Zonk on the 26th of October in Europe, no idea why.
 
Sixfortyfive said:
The first one is a Master System / Mark III game. Though, the MD did receive a straight port of the first game in Japan.
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It wasn't a port even, it was the M3 ROM plus an adapter all housed in a MD cart iirc.
 
Capndrake said:
Sadly, it is. They always put up all the games for the next month on the last Friday of the previous one. There's only been one exception where they added an extra game, and that was Super Air Zonk on the 26th of October in Europe, no idea why.
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Hmmm... you obviously spend more time with it than I do, but I'm pretty sure I've see that list updated on the fly (for North America anyway). Guess we'll see!
 
doogles said:
Are the original RPG Phantasy Stars any good?
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Phantasy Stars I, II, and III are all archaic and unplayable. Unless you're the sort who can still get into ancient RPGs with clunky interfaces and sub-par localizations.

Phantasy Star IV, however, is superb and a must-buy. PS II through IV are on that PS2/PSP Genesis compilation, I believe.

jarrod said:
It wasn't a port even, it was the M3 ROM plus an adapter all housed in a MD cart iirc.
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Well, yes, this is what I sort of meant as a "straight port" but that was sort of vague. Phantasy Star I MD is a byte-for-byte, pixel-for-pixel duplicate of the Master System original. It even displays the Mark III splash screen if you start up the cartridge in a Japanese MD (or an American Genesis switched to JP mode, which is what I use). It works on the MD because the console has all of the hardware needed to play SMS/M3 games natively.
 
grandjedi6 said:
Is this the first time Europe (or anywhere) has missed a week of virtual console releases?
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I don't know, but I am curious to see if the same is going to happen to NA this coming Monday...due to New Year's Eve and all.
 
Sixfortyfive said:
Phantasy Stars I ... archaic and unplayable.
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Starting out your post with a completely untrue statement is never a good idea.

And if there was EVER a game that needed to come our way via the Imports category on the Virtual Console, it's Monster World IV.
 
PepsimanVsJoe said:
Oh? Now that's interesting.
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The official converter that allows Master System games to be played on a Genesis doesn't have much hardware at all on the inside. I think it just adds pause button functionality and SG-1000 card game compatibility and tells the Gen's main processor to sit idle and let the sound chip (which happens to be the same as the SMS's main CPU) handle the game.

shidoshi said:
Starting out your post with a completely untrue statement is never a good idea.
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I suppose that I should mention that I've never enjoyed an 8-bit RPG that I've played. The later 16-bit RPGs, including PSIV, have spoiled me too much.
 
Sixfortyfive said:
The official converter that allows Master System games to be played on a Genesis doesn't have much hardware at all on the inside. I think it just adds pause button functionality and SG-1000 card game compatibility and tells the Gen's main processor to sit idle and let the sound chip (which happens to be the same as the SMS's main CPU) handle the game.
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Yeah after your last post I figured the converter really didn't do all that much.
 
Sixfortyfive said:
Phantasy Stars I, II, and III are all archaic and unplayable. Unless you're the sort who can still get into ancient RPGs with clunky interfaces and sub-par localizations.
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While myself and most people will disagree with you on PSI and PSII, I have to agree that PSIII is pretty tough to play these days. The game's interface was pretty crappy back when it was released, much less now. It also sucks compared to the other three PS games anyway, so it can be skipped.

PSI and PSII are definitely old and have the usual old RPG problems, but they're still pretty fun and worth playing. PSIV will be a must buy when it hits for anyone, though.
 
Sixfortyfive said:
I suppose that I should mention that I've never enjoyed an 8-bit RPG that I've played. The later 16-bit RPGs, including PSIV, have spoiled me too much.
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I played the game right after it came out, so obviously I'm coming at it from the viewpoint of somebody who played it during the 8-bit era, not as somebody going back to the 8-bit era. That said, I'd still argue that out of all of the 8-bit RPGs out there, Phantasy Star is still by far one of the most playable.
 
shidoshi said:
I played the game right after it came out, so obviously I'm coming at it from the viewpoint of somebody who played it during the 8-bit era, not as somebody going back to the 8-bit era. That said, I'd still argue that out of all of the 8-bit RPGs out there, Phantasy Star is still by far one of the most playable.
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C'mon here, FF1, DQ I-IV? All easier to get into than PS. PS1 was a great game, but it is really, really difficult to navigate. You pretty much need either a walkthrough or infinite patience and some graph paper. PS2 in some ways is worse, you don't really need the graph paper as much but memorizing some of those chutes can be a real pain in the ass.
 
PS1-2 are really archaic and impenetrable in ways imo, especially for a modern gamer who's never touched them before. PS3 just sucks though. :P

I don't think it's a problem inherent with 8bit or 80s RPGs either... something like DW3 holds up just fine really. :D
 
Capndrake said:
Japanese schedule for January's up and it's pretty great:

MD:
-Monster World IV
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Mindblowing for that alone. Release this in NA, guys, even if it has to be in full Japanese with not a word translated. I'd play it!


EU, AU and US all get Riot Zone as the only TG game in January.
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Ys. ;_;

Oh well. Time to hold out blind and illegitimate and irrational hope that JSnake brings news of Shining Force II, Bubble Bobble, and Mega Turrican, or some combination like that. Assuming the rep is even available today.
 
Japan is only getting 10 games in January? Sure there's some hits on there but that number is ridiculously low.

Also I'd imagine there's something to EU missing a week of games. Maybe an update on NYE?
 
Jiggy37 said:
Mindblowing for that alone. Release this in NA, guys, even if it has to be in full Japanese with not a word translated. I'd play it!
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If you have GameTap you're in luck, it's been on there (untranslated) for awhile now.
 
Just wanted to jump in and say Sin & Punishment is freakin awesome. I was on the fence about it for awhile and finally picked it up. I then proceeded to punch myself in the face for waiting so long. My face is not happy.
 
One NES game -> Bubble Bobble? Bases Loaded? River City Ransom (that's wishful thinking)?
One Genesis game that isn't Shining Force 2 -> Light Crusader
One NEOGEO game that isn't KOF94 -> Top Hunter
 
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