SonicMegaDrive
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Taichu said:
I couldn't get it to work at all, after 15 or so tries.
Official bitching about Hudson abandoning VC support. [VC/WiiWare = lost cause]
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I couldn't get it to work at all, after 15 or so tries.
Phife Dawg
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Awesome! I love me some Alien Storm. Never player StarTropics but I guess it's good? AA, right?Capndrake said:
PuppetSlave
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Is StarTropics a good game even though you never played it back then?
AlternativeUlster
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PuppetSlave said:
Yes, yes it is. It is like Zelda but better.
PuppetSlave
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AlternativeUlster said:
Better then Zelda? Hiiiighly doubtful(blasphemy even!) but you have triggered my curiousity. I'l pick this up over the weekend.
PepsimanVsJoe
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Jiggy37 said:
Yikes?
Let me try to re-arrange this so it makes sense:
LTTP is at the top of the list, Zelda 1 & 2 are right after that, and everything else is at the bottom in whatever order.
rollingstart
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PuppetSlave said:
I dont know if its better than Zelda (althought I would say they are tied in how awesome they are), but StarTropics is one of the best games for the NES. I think if Nintendo kept with the series it would have been one of the big Nintendo series of today, but after Zoda they just stopped and didnt bother with an SNES or even Gameboy game.
the controls also can confuse some people, but the learning curve to get used to them is only a few minutes. All you really need to know is that if you are facing left and you want to walk right, pressing right on the dpad will simply make you look right instead of actually walking right.
Star Tropics never had the promotion or positioning to really become a big series, plus it came from Nintendo's least prolific internal game R&D group (IRD). It was basically a post SNES gift to western NES owners (Zoda's Revenge didn't release until 1994 and the series never ever released in Japan), though I think it could've been nice to see a SNES or GB iteration (Zoda's Revenge probably should've been a SNES game anyway really).Linkzg said:
I wouldn't mind a DS or WiiWare revival though... too bad IRD's games unit was dismantled in the mid 1990s. :/
cartman414
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Jiggy37 said:
I would definitely put Zelda II higher than all of them personally, especially Startropics and Neutopia 1.
leroy hacker
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jarrod said:
Didn't have the promotion? You must not have been a Nintendo Power subscriber. The first Star Tropics got one of the heaviest pushes of any NES game. I think only Final Fantasy might have promoted more heavily. But as for positioning, sure.
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splattergnome
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Mamesj said:
I think that Star Tropics was the only game that Nintendo Power actually sold me on outside of the standard Mario/Zelda titles (I loved looking at level maps and pictures, but rarely bought games) - the graphics, the interesting locations, and the reveal of the.... that... special watery room you reach if you are too potion-greedy. :lol
I love Star Tropics, but the difficulty really does ramp up to outrageous levels at the end.
BooJoh said:
Wait a second... the only thing they NEED to do to get a game ready is the electronic manual. If the only thing Earthbound needs now is "the electronic manual", all that means is that it's in the same boat as every other unreleased NES, SNES, Genesis, Turbo Grafx, and Neo Geo game.
In other words, their "news" makes little to no sense.
splattergnome
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DavidDayton said:
Well, depending on the game in question, games slated for the VC do have to be tested on the VC NES emulator for any glitches and bugs, and in some cases even have to be tweeked a bit (see Kid Icarus and the password removal, or changing of advertisements in Waverace 64). Since Earthbound does not have any extra internal chips or the like, it should not make any problems, but who knows. It could just be fake "news", but on the other hand, there is a possibility that they meant the quality testing.
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I doubt very seriously that Starmen would fake news.
Cheesemeister
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I'm holding out blind hope that I accidentally hit the nail on the head a little while back.Somnid said:
But that's pretty optimistic, so I'm not quite expecting it. That said, if it's another 2-game week it's time to trash Nintendo openly and loudly--unless the other game is something super awesome like Shining Force II or Earthbound. I'd take 2-game weeks all year long if they at least offered a genuine A game every time.
Edit in the preview time as I've seen Cheesemeister's post: Oh, look, it's another 2-game week and the other game isn't super awesome.
I think it might be high time to organize an angry letter campaign or something, because by now both NA and Europe are getting shafted.Actually, I take part of what I said back. Pac-Attack does look pretty good, at least as far as falling block puzzle games go.
But that doesn't mean there's an excuse for two-game weeks.
But that doesn't mean there's an excuse for two-game weeks.
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Wow...this is a pretty lousy week. Pac-Attack looks okay, but it doesn't justify a two-game week.
Dang it, Nintendo.
Yes, I am slightly bitter that Earthbound didn't come this week.
Dang it, Nintendo.
Yes, I am slightly bitter that Earthbound didn't come this week.
Lionheart1827
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Man I'm waiting for them to release Captain Skyhawk. I used to love that game.
DaBargainHunta
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*Sigh* Totally horrible week. Why even bother?
I'm bitter that if the two-week trend keeps up, it'll take even longer to get to anything great at all. :/Iam Canadian said:
There are seven--seven!--games I'd buy immediately that were recently rated either by the ESRB or OFLC, or brought up by starmen.net. I don't even have to stretch into talking about stuff that's "likely" but not rated, such as the other Adventures of Lolo games or Castlevania III. Just sticking to this stuff that's very much in the public eye: Shining Force II, Ys Book I & II, Dragon Slayer, Lords of Thunder, Mega Turrican, Do Re Mi Fantasy, Earthbound.
Seven games. (Even if a person doesn't like me including Earthbound since it's not "official," then just toss Super Turrican in there instead. It's not that recent compared to the others, but it's still out there.)
Obviously four of those can't be coming in the two remaining January VC Mondays, since Hudson would have said otherwise if they were, but by now I think the explanation behind why none of them will be showing is pretty ostensibly, transparently clear. But the biggest puzzle is why Nintendo's doing this. Why now of all times--in the last couple of months before Wii Ware launches, an opportune moment to sell retro content while it's not competing with original content in the same virtual shelf space--are they slowing down seemingly globally? :|
Let's look at possible reasons. Maybe Nintendo thinks that, speaking strictly among only the companies who are supporting VC, they're running out of games and need to slow down to ensure continued VC Mondays. Trouble is, that's ludicrous; they're not running out of games. But even if they were, why slow down just to delay the inevitable? Just get all the games out there and let them sell. Do they not want the money coming in sooner than later? If at some point in the future there were only fifty games left (say), would they start having one-game weeks all the time just to say they could last nearly another year? Seems absurd to me.
Another possible reason is that there's too much work involved in putting up--no, I can't even finish that sentence with a straight face, because they've been consistently putting up three games per week for over a year and haven't had any trouble.
I'll entertain the possibility that they're slowing down because they think they can achieve a synergistic effect with Wii Ware and/or Everybody's Nintendo is coming soon and they think they can get better sales each week via that channel. That would be about the only moderately worthwhile explanation at this point. :/ Hate to be so critical of a service I've really loved--46 games and counting, 41 of them enjoyable--but the alternative is letting a trend I don't appreciate slide without at least blasting some criticism out there, and I'm not up for that.
AdventureRacing
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I just got mega man 2, mario 64, super mario world (forgot exact name, the one without lots of different coloured yoshis), LTTP and sonic. I actually think VC is to good lol. Basically all my time spent on the wii is playing VC games cause they are just so good.
Also earthbound will be a day one for me.
Also earthbound will be a day one for me.
StopMakingSense
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AniHawk said:
Try plugging the airport into the router.
DaBargainHunta
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Amen!maynerd said:
leroy hacker
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Jiggy37 said:
Probably the staff responsible for things like testing, preparing, and approving games for release now has their attention divided between VC and wiiware. Nintendo really needs to hire more staff.
DavidDayton said:
That's not the only thing though. Besides testing, there is getting an ESRB rating, which no one seems to ever think about. That is a non-trivial amount of work. You need to record footage of essentially the whole game for the ESRB to watch and fill out lots of paperwork. I think the gameplay recording requirement is one reason we have gotten so few RPGs since it is a much more onerous burden for them.
DaBargainHunta
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WHY?!
DaBargainHunta
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Damn.Jiggy37 said:
How long do these bans usually last?
I'd hate to see the GAF's top VC news guy cut off for an extended period of time.
Iam Canadian
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;_;
Too bad he was banned for asking for Nintendo Power scans.
Still, I shall miss him. Let us pour one out for him.
;_;
leroy hacker said:
Hmm... I had forgotten about the ESRB. However, Earthbound already has an ESRB rating. Have previously rated games been rerated by the ESRB? I had the impression that WaveRace and the various N64 titles weren't showing up with new ratings on the ESRB web site.
leroy hacker
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DavidDayton said:
You're right, it does. I didn't see it at first because it's listed under "Earth Bound." I wonder whether the manual is not done yet because they're trying to imitate the guide that came with the game. It would be neat to see those clay models and newspaper clippings.
And it seems Lufia 2 also has a rating. So Natsume has no excuses.
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I'd love it if Nintendo reproduced something like the Earthbound Player's Guide for the VC version's electronic manual. Earthbound's Player's Guide is a freaking Bible for Mother fans - aside from the ususal walkthrough and enemy info, there's clay models for almost every major or minor character in the game, random newspaper clippings, advertisements for places of business in the game, and all kinds of neat fanservice. And, like the Bible it's rife with contradictions.
Seriously, all sacrelige aside, I love that tattered old guide.
Seriously, all sacrelige aside, I love that tattered old guide.
Okay. Just need a hand here since I've narrowed my problem down to this:
My Airport and the Mac I use with it both work. I was able to go online with my DS without any problems. I can't get the Wii to work. I've tried it with WPA2, and WEP, and without any security settings at all. I've put in the settings manually and still nothing. I can't figure out how to get the thing to work and it keeps going to the 52130 error message. Bah.
My Airport and the Mac I use with it both work. I was able to go online with my DS without any problems. I can't get the Wii to work. I've tried it with WPA2, and WEP, and without any security settings at all. I've put in the settings manually and still nothing. I can't figure out how to get the thing to work and it keeps going to the 52130 error message. Bah.