http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/11/2/14333/4849
This is VERY encouraging. I'm in Florida and it would make me proud if we could pull it out here! Still I'm cautiously optimistic. *fingers crossed*
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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/11/2/14333/4849
This is VERY encouraging. I'm in Florida and it would make me proud if we could pull it out here! Still I'm cautiously optimistic. *fingers crossed*
My polling place was literally thirty seconds away. i got there fifteen minutes to eight, thinking they opened at eight, and that i could get in line before they opened, which was actually at six. Actual waiting time before getting to the voting booth was something like two hours.
If you're going to vote, or even if you're on the fence, i'd recommend going now. Things may've cooled off a little during lunchtime, but i'm sure they've picked up now with people probably taking off early from work.
If you're on the fence, go anyway. i'm not fully confident in the voting system, and i know my democratic vote doesn't matter here in NC, but i felt pretty good knowing that i did what i felt i needed to do, and that my opinion has been recorded. If you go an decide not to vote for whatever reason, at least you had the option. But if you don't go and decide you might actually want to vote, you run the risk of missing out until the next election. Depending on where you live, there's also the possibility of voter intimidation, especially the later you go to vote. The cops pulled a similar stunt here in my city when they changed the requirements for obtaining driver's licenses for immigrants. The posted cops at all the entrances to the DMV office on the last day, stopping minority drivers and checking ids, often times telling them to turn around. i'll probably drive by the polling station later this afternoon to see if they try something like that here.
If you're going to vote, or even if you're on the fence, i'd recommend going now. Things may've cooled off a little during lunchtime, but i'm sure they've picked up now with people probably taking off early from work.
If you're on the fence, go anyway. i'm not fully confident in the voting system, and i know my democratic vote doesn't matter here in NC, but i felt pretty good knowing that i did what i felt i needed to do, and that my opinion has been recorded. If you go an decide not to vote for whatever reason, at least you had the option. But if you don't go and decide you might actually want to vote, you run the risk of missing out until the next election. Depending on where you live, there's also the possibility of voter intimidation, especially the later you go to vote. The cops pulled a similar stunt here in my city when they changed the requirements for obtaining driver's licenses for immigrants. The posted cops at all the entrances to the DMV office on the last day, stopping minority drivers and checking ids, often times telling them to turn around. i'll probably drive by the polling station later this afternoon to see if they try something like that here.
Fragamemnon
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I'm dying to see the exit polling from WV and VA. If NC is that close, VA and WV should be a dead heat in the same exit polling right now.
I'll make an attempt at starting a more interesting topic.
Has anyone today voted electronically? If so, what were your impressions of the machine?
And as a general question, is anyone else concerned about whether electronic voting will be abused in this election? If the results show up as "G30rg3 B|_|$h is teh WINNAR!!!1!!1!" then we'll know we've been had...but I doubt it would be that obvious.
Has anyone today voted electronically? If so, what were your impressions of the machine?
And as a general question, is anyone else concerned about whether electronic voting will be abused in this election? If the results show up as "G30rg3 B|_|$h is teh WINNAR!!!1!!1!" then we'll know we've been had...but I doubt it would be that obvious.
Son of Godzilla
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So if Bush loses, will he continue his 'I fear for the future if Kerry wins' crap?
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I voted electronically...first time ever too and it was very smooth. I couldn't for the life of me figure out how they were tabulating the data as I say no connections to the booths other than the power cords. Regardless, it went smooth and without incident. My only beef was NO PAPER RECEIPT. "Putting the fix" could be extremely easy...here's hoping.
Azwethinkweiz
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God I wish I lived in North Carolina and not South Carolina. At least I'd feel like I was making a difference. Oh well, at least I voted for the abolishment of mini bottles in South Carolina.
Man, I need to go watch a movie or two to pass the time before real results start coming in.
I'm a bit curious if anyone voted against their family's preferred candidate, like if they have a family (immediate and extended) that is strongly supportive of one and you went and voted for the other. I know I did, and I can forsee some fun holiday discussions if I choose to participate and be honest, that is, if the guy I voted for wins. A lot of my family is pretty open, if not outspoken, about their preferences and I have a feeling I'll kinda be screwed and get some cold shoulders no matter what. If I don't chime in they'll assume I voted for the other guy, and if I do, well then it'd be obvious.
Not that I care of course, I just find it interesting and a more personal way of seeing how the country is so passionately divided.
I'm a bit curious if anyone voted against their family's preferred candidate, like if they have a family (immediate and extended) that is strongly supportive of one and you went and voted for the other. I know I did, and I can forsee some fun holiday discussions if I choose to participate and be honest, that is, if the guy I voted for wins. A lot of my family is pretty open, if not outspoken, about their preferences and I have a feeling I'll kinda be screwed and get some cold shoulders no matter what. If I don't chime in they'll assume I voted for the other guy, and if I do, well then it'd be obvious.
Not that I care of course, I just find it interesting and a more personal way of seeing how the country is so passionately divided.
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Everything's stored locally, and then the results from each machine are collected into one giant calculator (basically).
You should be happy that the only cord coming out of it was for electricity, God knows the shit that could be pulled if they were networked.
My county's polling devices were electronic. Very, very easy to use. Walked up, they verified my name and registration, handed me a "voter card", you have to stick it into the machine, you vote, then return the card to the polling official. I'm assuming the results are easily calculable from a "voter card" reader.
Oh, and everything was touch screen, very large, and you had to verify twice.
Oh, and everything was touch screen, very large, and you had to verify twice.
DJ Demon J
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Tommie Hu$tle said:
No offense, but everyone thinks their thread is different and not worthy of being locked. If the mods want to unilaterally ban a topic except for an official thread (like my "get out the vote by using Terry Tate" thread, in which I didn't say "election" IIRC), then such a ban should apply to ALL threads that violate it.
My mother and her fiance are very pro Bush. Both are Republicans.
My father and my stepmom are voting for Kerry, but they're not that thrilled as registered Democrats.
I'm a registered Republican who voted Democratic across the board, but I live with my father. However, I live within a football field length of my mother's house that I frequent all the time.
It's all very strange.
I remember when I turned 18 and registered as a Republican, I think my mom did a happy dance over the phone, like she had won some victory against my father.
My father and my stepmom are voting for Kerry, but they're not that thrilled as registered Democrats.
I'm a registered Republican who voted Democratic across the board, but I live with my father. However, I live within a football field length of my mother's house that I frequent all the time.
It's all very strange.
I remember when I turned 18 and registered as a Republican, I think my mom did a happy dance over the phone, like she had won some victory against my father.
siamesedreamer
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Just showing y'all how stupid it is to base anything off early exit polling.
http://www.sunherald.com/mld/sunherald/news/politics/10079929.htm
http://www.sunherald.com/mld/sunherald/news/politics/10079929.htm
CrimsonSkies
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Ohio and Florida will go Bush if the sample % was as skewed to women as I read elsewhere.
Banjo Tango
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I'm thinking there's still a lesson to be learned here from siamesedreamer...MIMIC said:
Anyway, back to the electronic voting machines topic: was any kind of justification given for them not having a paper trail?
siamesedreamer
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Yep, considering that I copy that line directly from the site, looks like they corrected a mistake.
shoplifter
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Almost 2 hours...insane lines here in Columbus.
I used an electronic voting machine (iVotronics?) in Cherokee County, SC, and it was a very straightforward process. I do hate the lack of a paper record, though.-jinx- said:
And yeah, I don't even drink, but the minibottles thing is ridiculous. I'll be glad to see it go. Can we ditch blue laws next?
Father_Brain
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If Kerry wins, which I'm at least 80% certain he will, my faith in humanity will have been restored. (I'm betting that his victory will be outside the margin of litigation and that we will find out tonight.)
Then I'll look and see that Thune, DeMint, and Coburn (and probably Specter, though he's not as much of a douche as the others) have won their Senate races, and that all 11 of the anti-gay amendments have passed, and it'll be lost again.
Then I'll look and see that Thune, DeMint, and Coburn (and probably Specter, though he's not as much of a douche as the others) have won their Senate races, and that all 11 of the anti-gay amendments have passed, and it'll be lost again.
Azwethinkweiz
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impirius said:
I used a touch screen as well. And I wouldn't hold my breath on the blue laws, they're gonna be here for a while.
ErasureAcer
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It'd be amazing if Hoeffel beats Specter in PA.
Maybe there is hope for Granny D yet!
Maybe there is hope for Granny D yet!
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