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Phoenix said:
I'm with Phoenix guys, it's over. Wait 'til next election </cubs fan>.
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I'm with Phoenix guys, it's over. Wait 'til next election </cubs fan>.
What makes you think that there will EVER be another Democratic president?Diablos said:
Seriously -- the country has become even more polarized than ever. All those red states you see on the map are being fed a steady diet of brain-numbing crap over AM radio and in churches. When exactly do you think they are miraculously going to wake up? It sure as hell won't happen when malignant fuckers like Karl Rove can use slogans and outright lies to manipulate them.
The dumbing down of America is a STRATEGY, and the very nature of it makes it impossible to combat with reason or evidence.
Randam_Hajile
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Already can't sleep.... *sigh*
norinrad21
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BUTT FUCK OHIO
I can't believe you Americans.
We might as well get used to people being blown up in Europe and America
I can't believe you Americans.
We might as well get used to people being blown up in Europe and America
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My girlfriend and I walked to the polling place after work, and we watched the election coverage on TV. She left a little while ago to get some sleep...but I don't think I'm going to get any sleep at all for several nights.Mason said:
This may have been the last chance to turn back from some REALLY scary shit that's on the horizon, and America screwed up.
Drinky Crow
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First, before any Christian-bashing gets out of hand, let's acknowledge that Christianity is a very big fucking banner and that at least 70% of this country considers itself quite religious. That means that quite a few Christians voted for Kerry and for progressive values, and they sure as hell don't deserve any shit.
However, it's worth noting that Millenialism really swelled the ranks of the evangelical/fundamentalist set. Millenialism is an eschatological belief that presumes a cataclysmic event of a religious nature that happens on an ordained date, such as a new millenium. However, it's a cyclical event, and while it may have galvanized a particular political bloc post-2000, it WILL dissipate in the coming years. So don't get yer anti-religious panic on just yet; although us secular types are in for some hurt feelings in the coming four years, the pendulum WILL swing back.
Also, for the gloating Evangelicals: remember that it's the Constitution and the lack of a theorcratic state that keeps us from being, well, the Christian sister to militant Islam. Show a little respect.
However, it's worth noting that Millenialism really swelled the ranks of the evangelical/fundamentalist set. Millenialism is an eschatological belief that presumes a cataclysmic event of a religious nature that happens on an ordained date, such as a new millenium. However, it's a cyclical event, and while it may have galvanized a particular political bloc post-2000, it WILL dissipate in the coming years. So don't get yer anti-religious panic on just yet; although us secular types are in for some hurt feelings in the coming four years, the pendulum WILL swing back.
Also, for the gloating Evangelicals: remember that it's the Constitution and the lack of a theorcratic state that keeps us from being, well, the Christian sister to militant Islam. Show a little respect.
Look, every time someone says "SCREW THOSE CHRISTIANS MORONS. RELIGION IS FOR ASSHOLES", I get kinda offended.
The problem isn't religion itself - but somewhere along the way the words were terrible twisted.
Honestly, would Jesus support the war? Outsourcing? Corporate greed? argh.
Thank you, sir.
The problem isn't religion itself - but somewhere along the way the words were terrible twisted.
Honestly, would Jesus support the war? Outsourcing? Corporate greed? argh.
Drinky Crow said:
Thank you, sir.
BobbyRobby
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-jinx- said:
Know what polarizes Americans ever further? Calling republicans hicks, morons, Nascar fans. Its really not helping your cause.
shoplifter
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Duck of Death said:
Because outside of Columbus and Cleveland is Jesusville. I fucking hate it.
DM_Uselink
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I'm glad I dont have to work tomorrow....I'm feeling sick now......... 
Fresh Prince
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Don't worry America, you ain't that bad .
We voted for a guy who lied to us numerously but we voted him in since the economy is good- so who cares if we alienate our Asian neighbours further by becoming America's bitch. Who gives a shit about the environment- it all pie in the sky stuff it's never going to affect us.
Ya know the UK is going to vote for Blair since their left leader is the only competant leader they feel they have and Italy- their president in some way owns a majority of the media- so no qualms there.
We all reap what we sow.
We voted for a guy who lied to us numerously but we voted him in since the economy is good- so who cares if we alienate our Asian neighbours further by becoming America's bitch. Who gives a shit about the environment- it all pie in the sky stuff it's never going to affect us.
Ya know the UK is going to vote for Blair since their left leader is the only competant leader they feel they have and Italy- their president in some way owns a majority of the media- so no qualms there.
We all reap what we sow.
Patrick Klepek
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who's up for some CIVIL WAR?
Yeah, they felt the same depression and confusion as 9/11 was occurring.
At the same time, there were neocons with grins a mile wide.
It's history repeating itself!!11
GG-Duo: I agree, you can't blame religion...it's the extremists that give it a bad name.
I swear to God, I was going to post a thread with the subject line "Do religious extremists control the World?", and I was going to post it around a month ago. Now knowing that dumbed-down-religion did play such a huge role in this election, I think I'll post it tomorow.
Drinky Crow
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Oh, don't be such drama queens. Get drunk, rant a little, but in the end, remember that the BEST thing you can do to fight what you DON'T like is to become politically active and set a better example for America. Squealing about flight to other countries just makes it harder for those of us who plan to stay here and fight the good fight.
I declare the ban on JOHN TITOR officially OVER. GET YER TIME MACHINE ON!
I declare the ban on JOHN TITOR officially OVER. GET YER TIME MACHINE ON!
JackFrost2012
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<ferricide> hrm, blizzard better get starcraft 2 out soon while there are people to buy it!
norinrad21
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He's going to fuck up the Alaskan wildlife
Randam_Hajile
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Bush + Cheney = 1984
I'm gonna try to get some sleep. G'night.
I'm gonna try to get some sleep. G'night.
Fair enough -- not all Christians are the same. I'll make two points, though.Drinky Crow said:
1) As far as I can tell, the "cataclysmic event" that has presented itself is the "war on terror." You don't think that the confluence of evangelical Christianity and the increasing rhetoric about the divine inspiration for our overseas military actions is a coincidence, do you?
2) As a former Catholic, I think that it's deeply fucked up that fringe issues like stem cell research or gay marriage trumps more important spiritual concerns like, say, providing for those in need and avoiding needless bloodshed in preemptive wars. If you're going to start building the city of God on earth, as Augustine wrote, you'd better start with the BIG stuff first.
fart said:
Agreed.
Karl Rove decided that the GOP could get the Bush-base excited by promising them to make all the new, frightening, challenging, different people and ideas go away, and it worked. You have to give them props for that. They had the best plan, and even though voter turnout was better this year, it wasn't enough for democrats.
A slight majority in this country puts their moral values and religion above their financial and national security. They essentially sacrifice their earthly lives for heavenly gains. It's a wonder that this mentality doesn't recognize similar characteristics in "middle-eastern boogymen" with whom they wage war.
I do think we'll see a different face on the GOP in races to come. Republicans are saavy enough to know that while going after the Christian Right works in short-term bursts, it's a bad strategy for long-term planning. That's why the rising power-base in the Republican Party is secular: McCain, Guiliani, Schwarzenegger...
Drinky Crow said:
Do you realize this isn't just about tonight? This is about the past four years, the next four years, and every year following in which it will take a large amount of time and effort to undo what Bush has done/is doing. As far as civil rights, funding for science, the environment, the economy, foreign relations, etc etc etc.
norinrad21
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God am gonna be sick and i ain't even an American.
These christians just signed our death wishes
Phoenix
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Mason said:
Yes, that's true. But suck it up. We will have to undo the damage so we might as well get ready for that. If the battle is over, so be it. Maybe someone here will work with the democratic party and get them a plan, some balls, and a good presidential candidate in the next 4 years.
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