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Official F1 thread: Magny-Cours Grand Prix

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sly

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2005 French Grand Prix Friday Practice 1

Pos No Driver Team Time/Retired

Code:
35 Pedro de la Rosa McLaren-Mercedes 1:14.778
5 Fernando Alonso Renault 1:15.183
6 Giancarlo Fisichella Renault 1:15.255
4 Takuma Sato BAR-Honda 1:15.530
9 Kimi Räikkönen McLaren-Mercedes 1:15.877
3 Jenson Button BAR-Honda 1:16.038
38 Olivier Panis Toyota 1:16.146
10 Juan Pablo Montoya McLaren-Mercedes 1:16.366
17 Ralf Schumacher Toyota 1:16.731
8 Nick Heidfeld Williams-BMW 1:16.758
1 Michael Schumacher Ferrari 1:16.838
14 David Coulthard Red Bull Racing 1:17.168
15 Christian Klien Red Bull Racing 1:17.343
2 Rubens Barrichello Ferrari 1:17.389
7 Mark Webber Williams-BMW 1:17.451
12 Felipe Massa Sauber-Petronas 1:17.777
11 Jacques Villeneuve Sauber-Petronas 1:18.192
37 Vitantonio Liuzzi Red Bull Racing 1:18.876
39 Robert Doornbos Jordan-Toyota 1:19.001
19 Narain Karthikeyan Jordan-Toyota 1:20.067
21 Christijan Albers Minardi-Cosworth 1:20.382
20 Patrick Friesacher Minardi-Cosworth 1:20.725
18 Tiago Monteiro Jordan-Toyota 1:21.725
16 Jarno Trulli Toyota


FIA: Michelin are responsible.


The seven Michelin teams may have been found guilty of two charges of bringing Formula One into disrepute, but FIA president Max Mosley has made it quite clear who he feels is responsible for the United States Grand Prix fiasco.

Speaking to the press after the announcement was made of the charges, Mosley said the blame for the situation lay firmly at the feet of tyre supplier Michelin – although the FIA was powerless to impose a penalty on the French company.

"They are not the scapegoats," Mosley said. "They are responsible. They admitted themselves that they are responsible. They have not denied that they turned up at Indianapolis with the wrong tyres and because they got the wrong tyres their teams could not race on the circuit they had agreed to race on, and to try to describe them as a scapegoat would completely go against the English language, it is simply not true.

"They were responsible for what happened and the teams technically share the responsibility in that it is up to them to get the right equipment and to have the right contracts with their suppliers, which arguably they failed to do. But this is a completely new element in Formula One, we have never had anything like this before, and as you noticed the second part of the thing that is outstanding until September is what they intend to do to make sure it never happens again, and the sort of thing you could imagine is that they have clear terms in their contracts, for example with a tyre company, requiring that company to bring a tyre that would be safe in all circumstances, even if it is not quick.

"We can't impose a penalty on Michelin because they have no more relationship with us than any other team supplier, we just don't have any power over them in that sense. We are able to indirectly put pressure on them through their teams and this is one of the things we are doing at the moment."

Source: Crash.net
 

AB 101

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Looks like the Michelin Tires are doing real crappy this week.

How about those Ferrari and their Bridgestones.


FERRARI

Fuck Enzo's Red Racers And Rogue Imbeciles
 
Looks like it's going to be a three way scrap for the win, with Ferrari, Renault and McLaren all in with a shout. Who knows... it could even be a foursome with the BAR's mixing it with the big boys, but it should be a great race anyway. Oh and Kimi will have to drop back 10 places from his qualifying position as his engine failed in the second practice session. Haha! :D

2nd Practice session:

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1.  P. de la Rosa     1:14.460           35
2.  J. Montoya        1:15.129   0.669   21
3.  M. Schumacher     1:15.204   0.744   24
4.  F. Alonso         1:15.242   0.782   23
5.  G. Fisichella     1:15.380   0.920   27
6.  O. Panis          1:15.483   1.023   37
7.  R. Barrichello    1:15.605   1.145   27
8.  J. Trulli         1:15.774   1.314   24
9.  R. Schumacher     1:15.925   1.465   24
10. D. Coulthard      1:16.371   1.911   26
11. J. Villeneuve     1:16.430   1.970   25
12. J. Button         1:16.597   2.137   29
13. F. Massa          1:16.753   2.293   27
14. T. Sato           1:16.890   2.430   28
15. V. Liuzzi         1:16.987   2.527   25
16. M. Webber         1:17.107   2.647   27
17. N. Heidfeld       1:17.192   2.732   28
18. R. Doornbos       1:17.574   3.114   25
19. N. Karthikeyan    1:17.790   3.330   23
20. C. Albers         1:18.508   4.048   14
21. P. Friesacher     1:18.897   4.354   25
22. C. Klien          1:18.897   4.437    5
23. T. Monteiro       1:19.186   4.726   18
--  K. Raikkonen                          2
 

Shinobi

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Yep...as it is he'll get a podium anyway, cause he's just that good.

Unsurprisingly I completely forgot about the live practice session this morning, on a day when I'm not working. Luckily it's on again later, but it's going to feel pretty funny watching it after the debacle of two weeks ago.

BTW, FUCK Mosley.
 
What We Can Tell So far(tm): R25's have excellent race pace followed by McLaren and Ferrari. Oddly enough with this new tyre compound Ferrari have better first lap performance at the expense of fast long stint times, a complete reversal of what has happened so far this season: maybe once the understeer issue is solved they can get back on the ball. Kimi's engine was a new spec (~945 HP). They're still a bit behind on the power game: Toyota is at 970 (!), Honda 960 and Ferrari 950 (though with the exhaust manifold layout they have sacrificed top horses for aero gains).....these are incredible figures for naturally aspirated 3 litre engines.
 

Shinobi

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And here are the qualiy times...



Starting grid for French Grand Prix

1. ALONSO Renault 1m14.412s

2. TRULLI Toyota 1m14.521s

3. M.SCHUMACHER Ferrari 1m14.572s

4. SATO BAR 1m14.655s

5. BARRICHELLO Ferrari 1m14.832s

6. FISICHELLA Renault 1m14.887s

7. BUTTON BAR 1m15.051s

8. MONTOYA McLaren 1m15.406s

9. MASSA Sauber 1m15.566s

10. VILLENEUVE Sauber 1m15.699s

11. R.SCHUMACHER Toyota 1m15.771s

12. WEBBER Williams 1m15.885s

13. RAIKKONEN McLaren 1m14.559s*

14. HEIDFELD Williams 1m16.207s

15. COULTHARD Red Bull 1m16.434s

16. KLIEN Red Bull 1m16.547s

17. KARTHIKEYAN Jordan 1m17.857s

18. FRIESACHER Minardi 1m17.960s

19. MONTEIRO Jordan 1m18.047s

20. ALBERS Minardi 1m18.335s



* demoted 10 places due to engine change
 

sly

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Shinobi said:
Race is a half hour away from starting...I'm assuming we'll have a full grid to start the race. :lol


I hope so! :lol Kimi would havve been on the second row if he wasn't penalized :(
 

Shinobi

Member
I'm a Raikkonen fan, so I have no love for Alonso's cocky ass. :lol And Kimi wins this race easily if his engine doesn't blow up on Friday (yet another dumb fuck FIA rule costing the Finn...and you wonder why I hate those fucks).

But hey, credit to Alonso...he had the pole, lead the entire way, and did what he had to do. Only a complete catastrophe will keep him from securing the driver's title.
 
Boring race. Roll on Silverstone. :D


This was funny though:

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:lol
 
finnish tv commentators werent too happy with the flag choice :)

and how can anyone like Kimi???? the guy is Häkkinen, but minus the personality. and thats a LOW personality index.
he is fast, but he makes mistakes.

just like Alonso, but alonso can coax speed from a lesser car... just like the young Msch.

so we seem to be back to the style of race we had in the late 90's: a fast Newey car with a compotent driver vs a talented driver in a lesser car.

roll on the rest of the season!
 

Shinobi

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Templar Wizard said:
and how can anyone like Kimi???? the guy is Häkkinen, but minus the personality. and thats a LOW personality index.
he is fast, but he makes mistakes.

just like Alonso, but alonso can coax speed from a lesser car... just like the young Msch.

And what, Alonso doesn't make mistakes? Or did you somehow miss his slide into the wall in Montreal while IN THE LEAD. Hell, even Michael makes mistakes...nobody's perfect.

I like Kimi Raikkonen because he's arguably the most naturally gifted driver in the sport. I've always been a sucker for naturals. He had a grand total of 23 races in ALL levels of racing prior to his F1 entry, a tally so low a number of F1 drivers didn't even want to see him entered due to his lack of experience. So Kimi shuts 'em all the fuck up by placing his then underpowered Sauber tenth on the grid in his very first race. And you think he can't coax speed out of a slow car? Heh, please.

No personality? Who cares? The kid can flat out drive a race car as well as any driver on the planet, and has no fear. That's what I like. Not everybody needs to be like Jacques Villeneuve.
 
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