Thanks for the write-up. Hah, yup sounds like a bad day for Ferrari. I don't understand why they just didn't let them race. It seems as if Ferrari is unsure about who the number one driver is in the team.
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hariseldon
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https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/a28474453/driving-a-modern-formula-one-car
Very very interesting article on the technical side of the cars.
Very very interesting article on the technical side of the cars.
Makariel
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Quite surprised with how well Albon does, all things considered. Parked the car in the wall in Sochi but still outscored Max in the past 4 races. I doubt Gasly would be outscoring Max at any 4 races. Gasly doing well back at Toro Rosso. If I were mean I'd say that makes sense, a slower car is easier to drive after all 
but I'm not mean, so I'd never say that
but I'm not mean, so I'd never say that
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Makariel
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Max Verstappen: 2020 Formula 1 calendar will cause divorces
Red Bull Formula 1 driver Max Verstappen has questioned the extension of the 2020 calendar to 22 grands prix - and suggested it will lead to divorces for mechanics
www.autosport.com
Some concern about the ever expanding number of races.
Provisional 2020 F1 calendar
| Date | Grand Prix | Venue |
| March 15 | Australia | Melbourne |
| March 22 | Bahrain | Sakhir |
| April 5 | Vietnam | Hanoi |
| April 19 | China | Shanghai |
| May 3 | Netherlands | Zandvoort |
| May 10 | Spain | Barcelona |
| May 24 | Monaco | Monaco |
| June 7 | Azerbaijan | Baku |
| June 14 | Canada | Montreal |
| June 28 | France | Paul Ricard |
| July 5 | Austria | Red Bull Ring |
| July 19 | Britain | Silverstone |
| August 2 | Hungary | Hungaroring |
| August 30 | Belgium | Spa |
| September 6 | Italy | Monza |
| September 20 | Singapore | Marina Bay |
| September 27 | Russia | Sochi |
| October 11 | Japan | Suzuka |
| October 25 | United States | Austin |
| November 1 | Mexico | Mexico City |
| November 15 | Brazil | Interlagos |
| November 29 | Abu Dhabi | Yas Marina |
In my view there's a few that could be cut and I woudn't miss them. France for example, dull track with dull racing. Sochi is also a rather boring track, and the Barcelona GP wasn't that exiting either for quite a number of years.
xrnzaaas
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Well with the Russian GP there are at least plans for switching to another racing track in another part of Russia, French GP and Spanish GP should go away altogether.
The calendar is pretty stressful for the F1 circus as it is, I have to agree with Max that it's not a good idea to add more instead of switching them.
The calendar is pretty stressful for the F1 circus as it is, I have to agree with Max that it's not a good idea to add more instead of switching them.
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Fox Mulder
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Hamilton will get all of the big records. Mercedes isn’t going to fall off next year. The new rules in 2021 aren’t going to shake them either unless they’re just bored of winning and pull out of the sport.
Fox Mulder
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Wind has already caused Kubica and KMag to trash their cars in qualifying.
Williams also apparently brought a new front wing but wanted to be fair since they only had one. So they gave it to neither driver. Pure Williams.
Williams also apparently brought a new front wing but wanted to be fair since they only had one. So they gave it to neither driver. Pure Williams.
Makariel
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Mercedes wins the manufacturer championship. Congratulations. Bottas had a fantastic start, Vettel a particularly poor one. The really interesting battle was between Hamilton and Vettel for second place, which went down to the wire. Bottas drove around pretty much alone in front. Well done Albon with Fourth place!
I can't believe they allowed Leclerc's damaged Ferrari to stay out like that. What happened to safety first? Pure luck the flying debris only took Hamilton's mirror off.
Edit: found an onboard clip:
That shard of carbon fibre took the mirror clean off. Just gives you an idea of the speed it was travelling at.
Thank goodness Lewis was able to dodge it.
Edit: found an onboard clip:
That shard of carbon fibre took the mirror clean off. Just gives you an idea of the speed it was travelling at.
Thank goodness Lewis was able to dodge it.
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hariseldon
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Decent argument for Red Bull’s aeroscreen (as seen in IndyCar next season). That could have ended very very badly.
I was expecting the warning flag as soon as the front wing sparked along the main straight tbh. If the endplate would have went a bit more to the center I'm not sure the halo would have caught that...
xrnzaaas
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Well it supposedly only changed things for better in Robert's car so I'm guessing they'll be scrapping the project altogether and looking for something else for George for 2020.
Makariel
Member
So the new rules regulations are out, NO CHANGE to the power units... wasn't the whole point to simplify the power units because they were deemed to expensive? Well they claim the new cars will be prettier than the current ones. That's something I guess?
Also, a cost cap is coming:
RIP Ferrari?
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Makariel
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Alex Albon confirmed for RBR for 2020. With Toro Rosso Alpha Tauri apparently staying much the same as well (albeit with TR AT you never know) and the majority of the grid being equally stable, this years' silly season is remarkably non-silly. Only Ocon going to Renault and Kubica leaving F1 as major news. Only the second Williams seat seems still open?
xrnzaaas
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Good for everyone at RBR and Toro Rosso (aka Alpha Tauri) keeping their seats.
No love for Hulkenberg? He's definitely going to be missed.
No love for Hulkenberg? He's definitely going to be missed.
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hariseldon
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He's been fairly clear that he won't drive the Williams so yeah he's gone. Seems he's heading for IndyCar (not doing the ovals though - chicken!).
Nicktendo_
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Amazing race. After a slow start this season just keeps on giving. So happy for Pierre.
Can't decide
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Just got done watching it, both some great moves and stupid moves were being made.
The other half didn't enjoy the race though; I must have woke her up 4 or 5 times responding out loud to the action.
Credit to Honda and their progress as well, the fact it is able to out drag race Mercedes in a completely square fight.
The other half didn't enjoy the race though; I must have woke her up 4 or 5 times responding out loud to the action.
Credit to Honda and their progress as well, the fact it is able to out drag race Mercedes in a completely square fight.
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That was the most Ferrari thing ever. They are truly their own worst enemy. They bumbled so many times this year it is not even funny. But happy for Honda and especially gasley guy had such a horrible year to end it like that is amazing for him. My favorite moment of the second half is gasley drag racing Hamilton to the line I was on my feet yelling.
Haha, yeah Hamilton vs Gasly on the final lap was something I did not expect to see, likewise the race ending with a Honda-powered 1-2.
xrnzaaas
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It was the best commercial for Honda since they've returned to Formula 1.
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Makariel
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What a race, really came alive near the end. Also good to see that Merc couldn't just power its way past a Toro Rosso, Alpha Centauri or whatever the fuck they are called now. I guess next year the whole field could be closer than it has been in years... one might say just in time for 2021 to throw everything in the air again
Can't decide
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It would make for short viewing. Wouldn't matter if it's GT racing, Le Mans or F1, Ferraris are absolutely compelled to crash.
Look glorious, sound glorious, crash glorious.
Anyone expecting anything less than a pissed off merc team and a 1-2 to end the season to put doubt in red bull and Ferrari. I would love to be in those team meetings the next 10 days at merc with the botch strategy and not giving Hamilton the heads up max was closing to save some battery letting him be passed like he was standing still. That is the most times I remember Hamilton being man handled on the track and I'm sure the team will face wrath for that starting with toto for taking a weekend off lol.
The week keeps getting better for Ferrari we don't know if anything will be found but fuel system parts were taken to the fia lab for testing after Brazil.
www.foxsports.com.au
F1 drama as Ferrari engine parts seized by FIA after ‘cheat claims’
Car parts seized as Ferrari rocked by ‘cheat’ storm
www.foxsports.com.au
Can't decide
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Imagine being rich enough to pull all of this off just for shits and giggles.
xrnzaaas
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Boring last race, but the season was entertaining overall
- McLaren had definitely the best comeback securing 4th before the last race and Carlos ending up 6th in the driver's standings.
- I wasn't expecting Red Bull to win with Honda in their first year and certainly not more than once
- Very disappointing comeback for Robert, I know the car was awful and George was likely getting all the good parts, but it probably sucked also because of Robert's lack of experience with the current tyres.
- Alfa with a promising start, but very poor second half of the season. I hope Kimi stays beyond 2020. Giovinazzi also improved in the second half and I don't mind him staying for another year.
- Pierre not spiraling down into depression and getting his first podium was one of the sweetest moments of the year.
- Daniil with a very strong return as well. I still think he deserved to go back to RBR instead of Alex (who is also good).
- No podium for Hulk and he wasted his only chance in Germany.
- Charles outscoring Seb in the standings wasn't a big surprise, but it's still nice to see that. Now if only Ferrari got their shit together and stopped losing points from countless mistakes.
- Bottas 3.0 not sucking like last year. We all know he's not on Lewis's level, but at least he didn't look like a joke this season.
- McLaren had definitely the best comeback securing 4th before the last race and Carlos ending up 6th in the driver's standings.
- I wasn't expecting Red Bull to win with Honda in their first year and certainly not more than once
- Very disappointing comeback for Robert, I know the car was awful and George was likely getting all the good parts, but it probably sucked also because of Robert's lack of experience with the current tyres.
- Alfa with a promising start, but very poor second half of the season. I hope Kimi stays beyond 2020. Giovinazzi also improved in the second half and I don't mind him staying for another year.
- Pierre not spiraling down into depression and getting his first podium was one of the sweetest moments of the year.
- Daniil with a very strong return as well. I still think he deserved to go back to RBR instead of Alex (who is also good).
- No podium for Hulk and he wasted his only chance in Germany.
- Charles outscoring Seb in the standings wasn't a big surprise, but it's still nice to see that. Now if only Ferrari got their shit together and stopped losing points from countless mistakes.
- Bottas 3.0 not sucking like last year. We all know he's not on Lewis's level, but at least he didn't look like a joke this season.
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