Official Fable II Thread

Wizman23 said:
LOL at you crybabies not buying the game now because of how co-op works. This type of game is meant to be played alone.
Ditto. I love the early parts. And that's without even getting into any major gameplay yet.
 
SamVT said:
Not being silly - but we've always said you play co-op as a henchman and split-screen.

Exactly. That's what I expected and I'm shocked to see the reactions in this thread. When Peter unveiled the co-op feature at E3 it looked exactly like it does now.

If I had taken a shot of booze everytime I heard the word henchman when listening to interviews with Lionhead folks I wouldn't be alive today. No broken promises here, just people who didn't bother to read FAQ's.
 
Wizman23 said:
LOL at you crybabies not buying the game now because of how co-op works. This type of game is meant to be played alone.


lolz at the Creator of the game hyping up online as a main feature also lolz at believing him.
 
for those who are pretty far in the game....would you suggest playing as a male or female character? are there any choices/gameplay things that are different for each?
 
Eggo said:
You're wrong. That chest is the one you get your LE items out of. It is also the one you get your items from fable2.com as well. I posted pictures of it earlier in this thread. To get the LE items, you have to go to Xbox Live marketplace and enter the redemption code, download the content, then access that chest to get your loot.
the sword isn't just in the chest, you have to head to the limited edition dungeon in order to get it.
 
Foreign Jackass said:
This is the worst news of the year. Went from must-buy to no buy. Thanks.

Thats really ridiculous. You are missing out on an amazing Singleplayer experience. I played this for 6 hours straight last night and I loved every minute that I played. There were several times where I just stopped what I was doing in the game to watch the sunrise and set. Cant wait to play again later today.

btw, the Story is very well done. It has really dragged me in and made me care about the characters.
 
SamVT said:
Not being silly - but we've always said you play co-op as a henchman and split-screen.
This was the first I'd heard of it.

It's dumb, is what it is. I'm not going to let it stop me from playing the game, but it's completely and totally stupid.
 
Wizman23 said:
LOL at you crybabies not buying the game now because of how co-op works. This type of game is meant to be played alone.

I was planning on mostly playing single-player regardless, and I am buying the game after work today, but what a ridiculous statement. Lionhead and Molyneux hyped online co-op for months as Fable 2's most impressive feature and single biggest selling point.

Frenck said:
Exactly. That's what I expected and I'm shocked to see the reactions in this thread. When Peter unveiled the co-op feature at E3 it looked exactly like it does now.

If I had taken a shot of booze everytime I heard the word henchman when listening to interviews with Lionhead folks I wouldn't be alive today. No broken promises here, just people who didn't bother to read FAQ's.

For the millionth time, Lionhead said that your character would ACT as a henchman. ACT. Not literally be a completely different character. Show me where they have ever said that the henchman would be a very limitedly customizable avatar rather than the actual character you created.
 
Zeliard said:
For the millionth time, Lionhead said that your character would ACT as a henchman. ACT. Not literally be a completely different character. Show me where they have ever said that the henchman would be a very limitedly customizable avatar rather than the actual character you created.

It's not because you don't take the time to read up on this that you have to blame us.

Just two examples where we make it absolutely clear you are a henchman:

http://www.oxm.co.uk/article.php?id=5112

http://www.xbox360fanboy.com/2008/07/09/create-a-henchman-in-fable-2/
 
Having a henchman makes more sense than another "hero" in a world where they are supposed to be extinct. I don't really understand the problem, it should be easy enough to alternate between each player's version of Albion if you want.

SamVT said:
Not being silly - but we've always said you play co-op as a henchman and split-screen.

What you say and what people assume are very different things on the internet.
 
Got my copy. Kinda slow starting off and the childhood part seemed kinda weird and quick to end. I guess it was better than watching a cut-scene.

I'm new to the series so I guess I need to give myself time to get acclimated to it. I felt like it would be alot more interactive (I can't jump?) and the expressions via D-pad are hit/miss.

Like I said, I've
just started as an adult and I'm about to enter into the lair in the middle of the lake
which means I really haven't dug my paws deep enough into the hive to get any honey. Later impressions to follow.

Also, it reminds me alot of Kameo, at least aesthetically. Is it just me?
 
gnarkill bill said:
Thats really ridiculous. You are missing out on an amazing Singleplayer experience. I played this for 6 hours straight last night and I loved every minute that I played. There were several times where I just stopped what I was doing in the game to watch the sunrise and set. Cant wait to play again later today.

btw, the Story is very well done. It has really dragged me in and made me care about the characters.


cool thanks.
 
ToyMachine228 said:
Went down at midnight but there was too much of a line. Not that desperate. Going out to get it now:D

Nice

supermackem said:
They both are talking about offline coop, this game is becoming a joke for the amount of let downs before i even play the thing.:lol

Actually I believe you are the joke. As far as co-op I was under the impression it was your character as well. However, I'm not going to cry like a baby either when the henchman essentially does everything you could do before anyways, gather gold and experience which you take back to your hero when it is all said and done. Really nothing to cry about.

S1kkZ said:
no, no, no, no, no!
they only talk about the offline coop. and when did you mention that even online you always have to stay together?

Why in the world would you be able to go to different sections and that was never, ever shown on the co-op system to date. The characters have always been together.
 
SamVT said:
It's not because you don't take the time to read up on this that you have to blame us.

Just two examples where we make it absolutely clear you are a henchman:

http://www.oxm.co.uk/article.php?id=5112

http://www.xbox360fanboy.com/2008/07/09/create-a-henchman-in-fable-2/

Maybe you should actually read the links you posted. Both of them are only talking about offline co-op, and the second one even laughably says:

Xbox360Fanboy said:
Really want to play some Fable 2 co-op but don't have a character to import? No problem! Revealed in an upcoming OXM UK article, Peter Molyneux has made it known that second players will be able to create and customize their own henchmen in a flash.
 
SamVT said:
It's not because you don't take the time to read up on this that you have to blame us.

Just two examples where we make it absolutely clear you are a henchman:

http://www.oxm.co.uk/article.php?id=5112

http://www.xbox360fanboy.com/2008/07/09/create-a-henchman-in-fable-2/
To be fair, both of those mention making a henchman for co-op, but they don't specifically say you can't use your main char if you have one. I can certainly understand some confusion (I can't understand the overreactions... but that's another story).

Talking of overreactions:
supermackem said:
this game is becoming a joke for the amount of let downs before i even play the thing.:lol
 
Psychotext said:
To be fair, both of those mention making a henchman for co-op, but they don't specifically say you can't use your main char if you have one. I can certainly understand some confusion (I can't understand the overreactions... but that's another story).

this. they make it sound like the henchman is a feature for casual gamers. they dont say that you can only play as the henchman.
 
supermackem said:
They both are talking about offline coop, this game is becoming a joke for the amount of let downs before i even play the thing.:lol

Hmm, that's a bit of an absurd thing to say. I wouldn't say 'let down' so much as it's not fulfilling the insatiable demands of a handful of impossible-to-please folks. People are going to complain regardless. It's still a great game.
 
I agree with Zeliard here, it really wasn't made very clear that you can't use your own character in somone elses world, only that you can't take your dog in.

I've kept up to date with pretty much all the Fable 2 media from its announcement, and I still thought you'd be able to take your character into somone elses world in online co-op.
 
Psychotext said:
To be fair, both of those mention making a henchman for co-op, but they don't specifically say you can't use your main char if you have one. I can certainly understand some confusion (I can't understand the overreactions... but that's another story).

Talking of overreactions:

Well the way the le was treat now with coop maybe being in at launch coming in a patch, now the day one coop turns out to be a bit pointless. That is let downs for me before i even pick up a pad.
 
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/30970.html?type=flv

GDC 2008 on-stage demo. Peter says that you can bring in your friend and his character is based on the one that's in his game. You can even see on the menu where it says "neutral male", so you can pick what type of character you want to play as..what I must assume would be good, evil, or neutral (maybe could change it to a woman). So what's all of this lying stuff? I must assume people heard what they wanted to.
 
DangerStepp said:
Hmm, that's a bit of an absurd thing to say. I wouldn't say 'let down' so much as it's not fulfilling the insatiable demands of a handful of impossible-to-please folks. People are going to complain regardless. It's still a great game.

So your happy we are getting a gimped le and gimped coop, carry on carry on. Looks like i fell for peters hype again.
 
supermackem said:
So your happy we are getting a gimped le and gimped coop, carry on carry on. Looks like i fell for peters hype again.

Regardless of your disappointments, the game has been rated very highly. Peters hype has been justified with all the 9s the game has scored.

They should have just left co-op out entirely, the amount of whining you lot do.
 
supermackem said:
Well the way the le was treat now with coop maybe being in at launch coming in a patch, now the day one coop turns out to be a bit pointless. That is let downs for me before i even pick up a pad.
seems like a let down rather than let downs.
 
Cocopjojo said:
Wait, online co-op is SHARED screen?

:lol :lol :lol

Have you seen one instance where it was shown otherwise. I think not. The characters have always been shown together in co-op on the same screen.

gnarkill bill said:
I'd like to randomly add that I love the Orbs feature in the game.

Yes Sir.

Yes, very cool, was describing that to my friend last night as almost semi MMOish.
 
So, have I understood this correctly (and I haven't read up on it too good since I am on a quick coffee break so don't bash me too hard) regarding coop:

1. The coop has a forced camera angle, regardless of couch or online play. This might be very wrong.
2. The players has to stay close together at all times. Or does this only apply for couch play?
3. You can't play with your own character, even though they talked alot about visiting each others worlds etc.

Edit: This is not meant as a major bashing session, since some coop is better than none, but I am trying to figure out what level my expectations should be set at.
 
FFChris said:
Regardless of your disappointments, the game has been rated very highly. Peters hype has been justified with all the 9s the game has scored.

Well we all know reviews dont mean jack really, didnt the first one score pretty high yet was well short of what was hyped to include.
 
Alright Alright...we heard both sides of the story about co-op, complaining isn't going to make it any better.

Please, let's get back on topic and start enjoying the game for what it is.
 
What does online shared screen mean? I don't really get that.

Are there no camera controls in the game at all? If there are, who controls the camera in "shared screen"? Does it actually just mean that both players have to be within a certain radius?

And I don't see the problem with the henchman thing. Taking your hero to someone else's Albion would be weird, and I don't want to do it.
 
supermackem said:
Well we all know reviews dont mean jack really, didnt the first one score pretty high yet was well short of what was hyped to include.

It had an average of an 85 which is well within reason of the first game. Unless of course you're a nitpicking crybaby.

Kabuki Waq said:
thats some nice Damage controlling there Jyettis.

:lol

Gotcha, I know it's scoring so well who would of thunk it. I know it hurts some feelings.
 
Damage control!

Funny stuff. This coop feature has been hyped to death as one of the main features of the game, and it's not even up to par with usual coop. I was expecting some kind of a revolutionary online coop adventure game, with a story possibly shared by the characters (something like Gears, but with side quests, and rpg elements). They were never clear on that, and for a good reason, since it's a completely useless mode.

Fable 2 becomes just another adventure game, and if Fable 1 is any indication, it's not going to be a great one. As far as I can see, there's still a very limited variety of enemies, and the combat looks lackluster.
 
supermackem said:
Well we all know reviews dont mean jack really, didnt the first one score pretty high yet was well short of what was hyped to include.

Don't pick up the game then. You don't trust reviews, you don't trust peoples impressions in this thread, you're only happy to moan about things that you wanted, regardless of anything else.

Just don't buy it, Lionhead are on to a winner with this game, they won't need your sale.
 
The orbs feature is making me smile so much. Put in my copy last night, went to Bowerstone Market, turned the EVERYONE option ON under my Orbs settings and BAM - 30-odd people in my world. We were talking, laughing, was answering questions about the game etc... it's just amazing to see the feature actually work. We couldn't really see it work with our internal testing environment. (Well not with 'real people' at least).

Sneaking up behind an orb in the forest going "BOOOOO-OOOOOOO" like a ghost is just so much fun!!!!!
 
supermackem said:
So your happy we are getting a gimped le and gimped coop, carry on carry on. Looks like i fell for peters hype again.

No, I don't disagree with you that I'm a bit disappointed that the co-op experience isn't entirely what I thought it was. Although I didn't research it extensively, I had gathered that you could bring your own character into your friend's world and play through the quest together (which I gathered from various podcasts/previews).

However, I won't let a secondary feature hamper what could possibly be a great single player experience. I probably wouldn't have played it co-op that much anyway. It would've been cool the first few times, go back to single-player and be done with it.
 
When you add in a well-known feature to your game, but decide to make it idiotic, you need to be sure that people know.

This would be like if when Halo 2 shipped and people logged onto Live for the first time, they found that they were seeing a split-screen just like if their teammates were on their box. And also that their armour permutations that they chose could only be seen by people on their box.

And when they were like, "Uh... really? what's going on here?" MS said, "What? We told you that you could play online. And that you could make your character look unique. You can do both of those things. It's not out fault that you assumed things."
 
Foreign Jackass said:
Damage control!

Funny stuff. This coop feature has been hyped to death as one of the main features of the game, and it's not even up to par with usual coop. I was expecting some kind of a revolutionary online coop adventure game, with a story possibly shared by the characters (something like Gears, but with side quests, and rpg elements). They were never clear on that, and for a good reason, since it's a completely useless mode.

Fable 2 becomes just another adventure game, and if Fable 1 is any indication, it's not going to be a great one. As far as I can see, there's still a very limited variety of enemies, and the combat looks lackluster.


yep co-op could have been something special and Peter did hype it up as such. But then again some lonely fanboys with agendas dont really need to play with friends and will call everyone else crybabies.

fact is good co-op can increase replayabilty and fun 10 fold.
 
Foreign Jackass said:
Damage control!

Funny stuff. This coop feature has been hyped to death as one of the main features of the game, and it's not even up to par with usual coop. I was expecting some kind of a revolutionary online coop adventure game, with a story possibly shared by the characters (something like Gears, but with side quests, and rpg elements). They were never clear on that, and for a good reason, since it's a completely useless mode.

Fable 2 becomes just another adventure game, and if Fable 1 is any indication, it's not going to be a great one. As far as I can see, there's still a very limited variety of enemies, and the combat looks lackluster.
yep... because you haven't played the damn game...
 
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