Straightballin said:Ive been trying to get a new program starting but dont know what exactly to do.
I am an intermediate lifter, can go to the gym 3-4 days a week and really want to tone and gain size. Trying to become more cut have some body fat one me.
I found this program http://www.global-fitness.com/strength/print_programs.html?style=BB&dpw=4&phase=3
I'll start with your diet, at first, don't worry about how much your eat but how well you eat.Matix said:So yea, I've been browsing this thread for awhile now, but haven't really taken it seriously since its associated with a gaming forum (flame on folks). Although I gotta admit, I've been pretty impressed by the consistency of the posters here and how many of them have been more than willing to help out a fellow health conscious gamer. With that being said, I propose a challenge to the fitness gurus of this topic.
Since the beginning of this year, I've attempted to seriously focus on getting in to shape (something that I've "attempted" to do for years now). Its been somewhat difficult since I do attend college, work 40hrs a week, live on my own and still try to find time for a social life (can't forget gaming as well). Luckily I have the convenience of a fitness room on the 1st floor of my apartment complex, that I attempt to utilize 3-5 days a week. The workout area is somewhat weak, with only a few cardio machines and worn down weight setups. Even with the minuscule fitness equipment, I still get in a average routine. I spend about 15 minutes doing 1-2 miles on the treadmill, and put the rest of my time doing weights for about another 15 minutes (doing 3-5 reps of 70-100lbs on my upper body). An added bonus is since I do live in the downtown area of a major city, I pretty much use public transportation or walk to my destination (work, school, stores, etc..) on a daily basis. Oh and this might not count for much, but instead of using my apartment elevator, I normally walk to my floor (even though I only live on the 5th level of a 22 story complex).
Now when it comes to diets, I'm a little bit more shaky. I have cut bread, soda and heavy sweets in general from meals. I also drink plenty of water mostly when ever I'm thirsty, with the occasional beer socially. But beyond these few improvements, I'm a total glutton when it comes to almost everything else. Even though I cook at home (instead of eaten out most of the time), I sadly overcook for myself alone. Also since I live on a budget, I normally buy whatever is cheap and eatable. So that means large pots of a lot of starchy meals (using pasta and rice mainly).
Regardless, my goal was to lose about 25+ pounds, flatten my stomach and obliterate these damn love handles (while gaining muscle in my upper-body). But from January up until now (about 5 months total), I haven't seen much of a difference. And even with the few noticeable improvements, the time taken to achieve them has been dreadfully slow. So heres the deal folks, I'm looking for some useful advice that might put me on the right track. But before you brush this off with cliche replies, check out what your working with first.
Height - 6'7"
Weight - 275lbs
Chest - 50inches
Waist - 40inches
So obviously I'm a big fella, which means ya might have to approach my situation a bit differently (good luck).
viciouskillersquirrel said:Well, for the gurus in this thread, fitness is Serious Business. Just try to think of it as level grinding in real life.
BlueTsunami said:Would be absolutely awesome if tracking certain Nutrients, Weight Gains (Muscle Mass), Endurance and stuff could all be applied to a software program thats geared to the Video Game enthusiasts
beelzebozo said:just when i start to feel sorry for some of the people that pop in occasionally, ask a silly question, and get jumped, they say something not only silly but really really stupid.
viciouskillersquirrel said:Well, for the gurus in this thread, fitness is Serious Business. Just try to think of it as level grinding in real life.
Mr. Snrub said:Honestly, I wouldn't approach it differently at all, so I'll tell you what we've been telling most beginners: you need to work your legs and train with free weights. Machines won't cut it.
If you want the cheapest route possible for great information, read all of Mad Cow's site: http://www.geocities.com/elitemadcow1/index.htm.
You'll notice he recommends Mark Rippetoe's Starting Strength book (http://www.basicbarbelltraining.com/). This is one of the best beginning routines for a path to strength, size, and all around fitness. It emphasizes squatting three days a week, drinking a gallon of milk a day, and each workout is a full body workout.
If you have any specific questions, feel free to ask!
RSTEIN said:Hmm. This is probably one of the best fitness threads on the net.
He's seen the light!
Houston, we have a problem. Before you proceed, you really need to ask yourself "why do I consistently fail to reach my fitness goals?" Do you go for fad diets? Do you hit the gym hard only to lose motivation shortly after? This is key. Know thyself.
LAME LAME LAME excuses. Everyone in this thread has a busy life. Everyone has school, hobies, families, etc. You just can't accept excuses. If you want to lose weight/get fit you're going to have to FIND the time or SACRIFICE something.
Awesome. All you need is a treadmill/eliptical and dumbells.
This is not an average routine. This is a weaksauce routine (sorry for being harsh). You need to spend more like 30-45 minutes on the treadmill. In my opinion (others may differ) you shouldn't bother doing cardio for 15/weights for 15. Go all out on either. One day hit cardio real hard. The next day hit the weights real hard. If you split them up in one session you're going to be doing each half assed, especially given your goal of weight loss. The bottom line is you're not going to lose the weight you want to lose by doing 15 mins of cardio 3 days a week.
Sorry, these all have to go Switch to whole grain bread, water (NOT JUICE) and no sweets. You shouldn't be putting this junk into your body - it doesn't matter whether or not you're on a "diet."
Carbs aren't bad. They're essential. However, given your level of activity you're probably eating way too many carbs... which aren't being used but stored. Try to eat your carbs in and around your workouts (especially your weight routine). Rice isn't bad either. Switch a couple of pasta nights to some nice lean chicken or fish. A chicken takes the same time to cook.
Again, sorry to be harsh, but you haven't seen any improvements because you're just not doing enough. A) 1-2 miles/15 minutes isn't enough. You're not making a dent in anything. It's almost useless. B) Your consuming way too many carbs/calories.
The good news is you CAN lose the weight you want.
1) Really think about what you want and why your previous "attempts" have failed. Are you ready to change your lifestyle? REALLY ready? As in no turning back?
2) Develop a proper exercise/weight schedule. First thing I would do is bump that treadmill time to 45 minutes. If you can't do that, do 20 minutes treadmill and 20 minutes elliptical. 20 minutes on the eliptical and you should burn 300 calories easy. A lot of people here can help you with this more than I can.
3) Develop a proper "diet." When I say diet I mean just a clean, healthy lifestyle. No white shit, processed shit or sugar. Get some grains, protein, good carbs. Mmmmmm, does a body good.
Chichikov said:I'll start with your diet, at first, don't worry about how much your eat but how well you eat.
It's surprisingly hard to be a "total glutton" on good food.
Unfortunately eating well require money or time and effort, I suggest you do the latter. Sorry, no magic tricks here, you need to make a concentrated effort to cook good food.
As for your training program, you don't really do cardio now, you do a warm up, warm up is good, warm up is important, but it's not going to get you thin.
I suggest you split you routine, 3 days strength, 2 days cardio (or vice versa).
For cardio you just need to do more, either make it a 40-60 minutes constant effort (think 7 out 10, 10 being redlining) or some sort of interval routine.
As for strength, can you specify exactly what machine/weights/equipment you have in your gym?
No. That's not enough calories. I know guys who are probably just over 200 lbs who eat 3000 lean calories a day. There's a calorie-calculator on t-nation; I will try to look for it if I think of it.Matix said:Awesome, fucking awesome. Thx for insightful tips. Heres a few more question you all might can help me with.
Calorie Intake
I'm assuming because of my size, and considering I'm working on losing weight, 2000-2200 calories taken in daily would be sufficient?
Half an hour of intense cardio or an hour of weighlifting is probably a good target to aim for.Calories Burn (During Workout)
As of now I'm killing off about 250-300 calories during my normal 30 minute routine (which does seem pretty weak). How far should I step this up?
Check the OP. I think that whey protein and creatine are your must-haves to start with, plus something for your joints, gluocosamine or fish oil, or both.Diet Supplements
I've been totally against this in the past, but recently I've read about various positive outcomes with the use of these products (including in this forum). So what would you folks suggest?
Natural peanut butter can be good, but unless you're killing yourself in the workouts, a little goes a long way. Try raw broccoli, carrots, lettuce, whey protein shakes, plain lettuce, water. And more water.Healthy Filler/Snack Foods
One of my shittiest habits is to indulge in full meals, even though normally I'm not that hungry. What type of healthy food would be adequate to carve that snacking appetite (maybe peanuts)?
Frankly? A gym membership at the most basic place you can find. Look for a gym with a bunch of free weights and some fans running; stay away from the ones with new machines and signs for aerobics classes on every possible surface. Here's a quote from another forum, when a guy knew he'd found his new gym:Home Workout Equipment
Since I live in small studio apartment, what decent fitness equipment would be right for this small amount of space?
You can do much better than GNC's store brand. I use Biotest, but it's pricey. Try Extend.Vanish said:do you guys think doing dips alone will help to significantly power up my triceps? ive tried other tricep excercises but i hate them all, maybe its just me or im doing them wrong, but they all feel really uncomfortable. also, what do you use to tie weights to yourself to do weighted dips?
does this look like a good product: http://www.gnc.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2615315&cp=2665513
and yeah, this is definitely a great topic, all you guys have been incredibly helpful, thanks
bafflewaffle said:How do I get those above the crotch muscles so I too can marry Scarlett Johansson? :lol
like so
1. You piss someone who can squat 600lbs by posting stupid shit in his thread.bafflewaffle said:How do I get those above the crotch muscles so I too can marry Scarlett Johansson? :lol
like so
http://thebosh.com/upload/2007/04/09/ryan_reynolds_97.jpg
Its not stupid shit, it was a sincere question. My above the crotch area is flabby.Chichikov said:1. You piss someone who can squat 600lbs by posting stupid shit in his thread.
2. ?????
3. When the doctors rebuild you, ask for some better abs.
bafflewaffle said:How do I get those above the crotch muscles so I too can marry Scarlett Johansson? :lol
like so
Am I the only one who notices how his head looks freakishly large, because he's so incredibly scrawny?BlueTsunami said:Not to spit on a flawless body but the seemingly lack of lats makes him look a little too skinny muscular but I would think thats what he was going for.
??? I'm getting bad search results, please explain.BlueTsunami said:Lots and lots of cardio involving thrusting and bunker busting. GOD I want that body
bafflewaffle said:??? I'm getting bad search results, please explain.
bafflewaffle said:Its not stupid shit, it was a sincere question. My above the crotch area is flabby.
Good joke. :lol Well it was convincing. It sounded like one of those military boot camp exercises.BlueTsunami said::lol
I'm sorry dude but I was just joking with that post but a serious answer is to be found in Immortal_Daemon's post. Its mainly his body fat and the fact that he doesn't seem to have any. Mix in a traditional Weightlifting routine and wholla! Super hot body.
Sol.. said:LOL this reminds me of some show (i think Diary) that followed Usher and a session with his trainer. And he did a big ol heap of scissor kicks and when he got up he displayed a lil of the crotch muscle and said "thats how you get this baby. if you don't have this, you aint nothin" or somethin along those lines.
man i remember that... that was years ago... I used to have the VSol.. said:LOL this reminds me of some show (i think Diary) that followed Usher and a session with his trainer. And he did a big ol heap of scissor kicks and when he got up he displayed a lil of the crotch muscle and said "thats how you get this baby. if you don't have this, you aint nothin" or somethin along those lines.
Matix said:Um, yea. I mean this is part of the Gaming-Age forums right? Sorry I haven't been searching GAF before for fitness tips.
Matix said:Calorie Intake
I'm assuming because of my size, and considering I'm working on losing weight, 2000-2200 calories taken in daily would be sufficient?
Calories Burn (During Workout)
As of now I'm killing off about 250-300 calories during my normal 30 minute routine (which does seem pretty weak). How far should I step this up?
Home Workout Equipment
Since I live in small studio apartment, what decent fitness equipment would be right for this small amount of space?
First of all, I would definitely do the deadlifts before the pull/chin ups, not so much because of the grip but more because of the fact that bad form due to fatigue in the deadlift is much more problematic than form problems in the pull ups (and while we're at it, I would consider not doing both pull ups and chin ups at the same day, concentrate on one, mostly pulls ups and try to do more weight/repetitions).Yogi_bear said:Anyways, here's the problem, My next lift is the deadlift and I'm finding that my grip/forearms are too fatigued after the pull ups to hold the weight. Before it wasn't a problem because I was new to the deadlift exercise, so I started with light weights to get my form correct. Now that I'm moving into heavier weights, my grip/forearms cannot hold up(mainly my fingers start to give out). My hamstrings can handle the heavier weight no problem, it's that my grip usually gives out before I can get to 4 reps even.
I've tried doing Farmers Walk to build up my grip/forearms but they're still holding me back. Are there wraps that I can use to ease up on the strain on my fingers/forearms? Any recommendations? I was doing the deadlift last night and I found myself focusing more on my fingers/grip than proper form which is never a good thing so I figured it's time to look into something to help out. Thanks guys,
Fake bacon isn't terrible every once so often. But after every workout? I don't think so.lil smoke said:Just a simple question: Is bacon ok to eat after working out? Along with eggs, oatmeal or potatoes, and a shake.
How long have you been workout out, and what kind of shape would you say you're in? What kind of split will you be using, that is, how many times per week will you be doing each bodypart, and how will you be scheduling them? And what kind of bodytype would you say you have, that is, pudgy, tall and lean, athletic, short and squat?Qwerty710710 said:Question
How many sets you should do for each body part. I'm trying to make my own workout plan for the first time.
Big muscles
Chest
Back
Quads/hams
Small Muscles
Bi/Tri
Calfs
Shoulders
Chichikov said:First of all, I would definitely do the deadlifts before the pull/chin ups, not so much because of the grip but more because of the fact that bad form due to fatigue in the deadlift is much more problematic than form problems in the pull ups (and while we're at it, I would consider not doing both pull ups and chin ups at the same day, concentrate on one, mostly pulls ups and try to do more weight/repetitions).
As for your grip problem, are you using a mixed grip (one hand supinated one hand pronated)?
If not, start doing it on the heavy set (you probably want to stay with pronated grip on your warm up sets to strengthen your grip).
If you're already doing it, yeah, straps may help, I personally don't like them that much, but if you're using gloves consider losing them.
Other than that, farmer walks should get most people's grip to the point where it's not the limiting factor in the deadlift pretty fast.
EDIT:
wait, are we talking about Romanian deadlifts? if so, ignore what I just said about mixed grip, it is not advisable.
Have you tried lifting chalk?Yogi_bear said:Yes, Romanian deadlifts. I'm going to shuffle up the order of my lifts and do the Romanian deadlift first and see if that helps before I get straps. So you'd suggest not using gloves for the deadlifts? Haven't tried that before, might do it next time. Thanks
Captain Glanton said:Have you tried lifting chalk?
Chalk will tear up your hands, but you'll be able to hold onto the bar much, much easier.Yogi_bear said:I did at my old gym, but that was a while ago( My new gym is a 24 fitness, they lack a lot of the core weight lifting accessories such as weigh belts, chalk, etc....) I might pick some up and try that with the no gloves and see how I hold up. Thanks for the suggestions.
I use chalk for Kettlebell...yea, tears the shit out of your hands.Captain Glanton said:Chalk will tear up your hands, but you'll be able to hold onto the bar much, much easier.
I just saw this. That sounds so sadYogi_bear said:I did at my old gym, but that was a while ago( My new gym is a 24 fitness, they lack a lot of the core weight lifting accessories such as weigh belts, chalk, etc....) I might pick some up and try that with the no gloves and see how I hold up. Thanks for the suggestions.
Yogi_bear said:I might pick some up and try that with the no gloves and see how I hold up.
Chin-Ups--Palms facing youNaked Snake said:What's the difference between Pull ups and Chin ups? I thought they were different names for the same thing.
Captain Glanton said:Chin-Ups--Palms facing you
Pull-Ups--Palms away from you
yacobod said:for traditional deadlifts, just stopping and regripping works, and the plus side is you will actually be doing proper deadlifts
Yogi_bear said:I did at my old gym, but that was a while ago( My new gym is a 24 fitness, they lack a lot of the core weight lifting accessories such as weigh belts, chalk, etc....) I might pick some up and try that with the no gloves and see how I hold up. Thanks for the suggestions.
Captain Glanton said:Fake bacon isn't terrible every once so often. But after every workout? I don't think so.
How long have you been workout out, and what kind of shape would you say you're in? What kind of split will you be using, that is, how many times per week will you be doing each bodypart, and how will you be scheduling them? And what kind of bodytype would you say you have, that is, pudgy, tall and lean, athletic, short and squat?
Mr. Snrub said:Ditch the gloves. They end up just getting in the way and add another layer, which will NOT help you grip. Get some chalk or liquid chalk (easier to sneak/hide into shitty gyms).