Official LAIR thread
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vpance said:
Yeah, DMC3 and NSG I buy, play for an hour. And the put it down and don't pick it up for 1-2 months. Those two games are hard to learn. I do this to just get a feel on how hard it is.
After 1-2 months. I'll pick it up and actually TAKE the TIME to learn the moves. Then, it's fun.
And I think it might be this way for Warhawk (jet) and Lair. Well, see.
nelsonroyale
Member
Ill wait for more reviews...I dont think I have bought games that had this shitty score...but then I havent bough any games based on one score either
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Thunderbear
Mawio Gawaxy iz da Wheeson hee pways games
I've disagreed with EGM before, I am not expecting an amazing experience but I expect to have fun with it. The scope/epic feel of it is enough for me to warrant the purchase.
I watched Die Hard 4 a couple of days ago, same deal. Nothing to write home about but despite some annoying moments it was fine. So if that's the experience I'll get with Lair I'll be happy.
I watched Die Hard 4 a couple of days ago, same deal. Nothing to write home about but despite some annoying moments it was fine. So if that's the experience I'll get with Lair I'll be happy.
Dunno, controls felt spot on to me. Except for the quick 180° turnaround move (quick pull controller towards you), which worked at random. But flying around felt pretty natural. I can see how some can get tired after a while but, well, did you ever ride a dragon?! It's not relaxing at all I tell u!! :lol
Thunderbear
Mawio Gawaxy iz da Wheeson hee pways games
TTP said:
That's good to hear. What publication/site do you work for?
Karma Kramer
Banned
Tideas said:
Didn't the OP in the egm thread summarize each editors thoughts?
Karma Kramer
Banned
Tideas said:
why does it matter?
Thunderbear
Mawio Gawaxy iz da Wheeson hee pways games
TTP said:
Cool
nelsonroyale
Member
TTP said:
whats you opinion on the game?
titiklabingapat
Member
This might just be a case similar to SSX Blur on the Wii. Some get the waggle and hail it as a masterpiece, some just don't or don't give it a chance at all, calling it broken.
Welcome to waggleworld, PS3 fans
Welcome to waggleworld, PS3 fans
Mike Works
Member
there has been some AMAZING damage control in this thread
I DON'T TRUST THESE REVIEWERS
I DON'T TRUST EGM
I TRUST GAMEPRO MORE THAN EGM, THEIR RATING SCALE IS MORE REALISTIC... WHEN THEY RATE A CATEGORY 4 OUT OF 5 THE FACE IS LIKE
BUT WHEN THEY RATE IT 5 OUT OF 5 THE FACE IS LIKE BUT WITH HIS EYEBROWS IN THE AIR AND THAT'S WHEN YOU KNOW IT'S REALLY GOOD
I PREDICT THE AVERAGE SCORES TO BE AROUND 7-8 SO 7-8 IS GOOD HEY GUYS DID YOU HEAR LAIR GOT 8 OUT OF 10 IN MY MIND
THE REVIEW COMPLAINED THAT IT WAS TIRESOME TO PLAY OVER A LONG PERIOD OF TIME WITH THE MOTION CONTROLS, BUT I PLAYED THE GAME FOR 10 MINUTES AND IT FELT FINE TO ME
IF THE CONTROLS ARE THE PROBLEM, THAT'S OKAY WITH ME, I'M GOOD AT CONTROLS
you guys are awesome, NEVER STOP BELIEVING!
I DON'T TRUST THESE REVIEWERS
I DON'T TRUST EGM
I TRUST GAMEPRO MORE THAN EGM, THEIR RATING SCALE IS MORE REALISTIC... WHEN THEY RATE A CATEGORY 4 OUT OF 5 THE FACE IS LIKE
BUT WHEN THEY RATE IT 5 OUT OF 5 THE FACE IS LIKE BUT WITH HIS EYEBROWS IN THE AIR AND THAT'S WHEN YOU KNOW IT'S REALLY GOODI PREDICT THE AVERAGE SCORES TO BE AROUND 7-8 SO 7-8 IS GOOD HEY GUYS DID YOU HEAR LAIR GOT 8 OUT OF 10 IN MY MIND
THE REVIEW COMPLAINED THAT IT WAS TIRESOME TO PLAY OVER A LONG PERIOD OF TIME WITH THE MOTION CONTROLS, BUT I PLAYED THE GAME FOR 10 MINUTES AND IT FELT FINE TO ME
IF THE CONTROLS ARE THE PROBLEM, THAT'S OKAY WITH ME, I'M GOOD AT CONTROLS
you guys are awesome, NEVER STOP BELIEVING!
Thunderbear
Mawio Gawaxy iz da Wheeson hee pways games
Mike Works said:there has been some AMAZING damage control in this thread
I DON'T TRUST THESE REVIEWERS
I DON'T TRUST EGM
I TRUST GAMEPRO MORE THAN EGM, THEIR RATING SCALE IS MORE REALISTIC... WHEN THEY RATE A CATEGORY 4 OUT OF 5 THE FACE IS LIKE
I PREDICT THE AVERAGE SCORES TO BE AROUND 7-8 SO 7-8 IS GOOD HEY GUYS DID YOU HEAR LAIR GOT 8 OUT OF 10 IN MY MIND
THE REVIEW COMPLAINED THAT IT WAS TIRESOME TO PLAY OVER A LONG PERIOD OF TIME WITH THE MOTION CONTROLS, BUT I PLAYED THE GAME FOR 10 MINUTES AND IT FELT FINE TO ME
IF THE CONTROLS ARE THE PROBLEM, THAT'S OKAY WITH ME, I'M GOOD AT CONTROLS
you guys are awesome, NEVER STOP BELIEVING!
Hmm... questioning 1 review because you've been looking forward to a game and because you might end up having another opinion... yeah that's very weird.
Ass.
And the caps really helped too, made you come across really intelligent and open-minded.
Crayon Shinchan
Aquafina Fanboy
Mike Works said:there has been some AMAZING damage control in this thread
I DON'T TRUST THESE REVIEWERS
I DON'T TRUST EGM
I TRUST GAMEPRO MORE THAN EGM, THEIR RATING SCALE IS MORE REALISTIC... WHEN THEY RATE A CATEGORY 4 OUT OF 5 THE FACE IS LIKE
I PREDICT THE AVERAGE SCORES TO BE AROUND 7-8 SO 7-8 IS GOOD HEY GUYS DID YOU HEAR LAIR GOT 8 OUT OF 10 IN MY MIND
THE REVIEW COMPLAINED THAT IT WAS TIRESOME TO PLAY OVER A LONG PERIOD OF TIME WITH THE MOTION CONTROLS, BUT I PLAYED THE GAME FOR 10 MINUTES AND IT FELT FINE TO ME
IF THE CONTROLS ARE THE PROBLEM, THAT'S OKAY WITH ME, I'M GOOD AT CONTROLS
you guys are awesome, NEVER STOP BELIEVING!
There's been some very impressive counterspinning as well. Good work caps boy, maybe in this rabble of a thread, caps is the right way to go as far as getting attention goes.
Thunderbear said:
Mike Works had a good point but ruined it with CAPS.
This is the problem with hype, and it was the same story when Lost Planet was due out. Everyone gets really, really hyped up about a game, then reality hits and the game sucks. But everyone remains in denial. "No it must be good" "EGM sucks" "Everyone sucks" "Everyone is wrong except me"
But if being in denial helps you enjoy the game regardless, then good on ya I say.
uprightcitizen
Member
I'm pretty excited about the game. Looks epic enough to wear your gauntlets and listen to power metal whilst playing as well.
Thunderbear
Mawio Gawaxy iz da Wheeson hee pways games
pswii60 said:
It's a good point if you're a drone. One review from EGM and the game is a failure? No one in here has claimed it's awesome despite the review, they are just saying "we might enjoy it anyway".
It's not denial, it's called thinking for yourself and not automatically believing everything you read.
Thunderbear
Mawio Gawaxy iz da Wheeson hee pways games
Tideas said:
Well for me it's not one or the other. I'm not going to believe it's either good or bad until I got enough evidence to lead me one way or the other.
Right now there's one fairly negative review from EGM, one glowing review from Play (which people dismiss) and one average review from Gamepro. That doesn't give it enough evidence for me to write off this game.
I like video reviews, I'm looking forward to Gametrailer's review.
I think I'm going to go in regardless. I've played the game last year and I liked it then. The overall experience is 'spiced' with stuff like ability to visit a Lair dedicated website from the main menu, Leaderboards, Home items, behind the scenes stuff +it has high production values with great music and highly impressive tech...etc. I can't really see this game deserving a 5 despite the shortcomings mentioned.
Thunderbear said:
Fairly negative? It was a terrible review.
And everybody knows Play's opinion is worthless.
Not looking too good right now. I've pre-ordered it anyway, and most of the really credible sources haven't reviewed it yet.
But still... that EGM review does not sound good at all.
Crayon Shinchan
Aquafina Fanboy
Tideas said:
Yeah. I don't see why you'd let a single (or in this case 3 closely related) opinions sway you to the extent that you wouldn't bother at all. Especially when you're missing the actual opinions and only have the numerical summation to go off.
An aggregate is a little more convincing, but I say, never not give something a try just from the basis of the opinions of others.
Mike Works
Member
especially weird when you consider that it's actually 3 reviews.Thunderbear said:
you're right, i should've used proper grammar while featuring this picture under my name:
would've really made me come off as an intellectual.
Three reviews.Thunderbear said:
sleeping_dragon
Banned
i got a feeling that this game is the type where you either hate it or love it.
angelcage87
Member
The other two reviews weren't bad at all,so explain why one should give credit to this and say lair is utter shit and not the others and say it's awesome?I think we should just wait for some user reviews instead of jumping to conclusions.Mike Works said:
i don't expect lair to be any good -- i diverge from the 'rs2 had phenomenal graphics and mediocre gameplay' consensus, in that i think its gameplay was completely awful, worse really than that forgettable star wars starfighter game on ps2. and moreover i hate motion controls. but egm reviews are useless. in their drive to be 'tough' and bring the scoring average back down to 5, they'll overlook the merits of anything at all idiosyncratic or open to attack. and if they do praise something idiosyncratic, it'll be a bloody useless ds 'game' like hotel dusk. i don't know. i don't place any faith in play or gamepro either, but i'd rather see game reviews that are perceptive about the merits of games that aren't obvious 'aaa' critic-bait. better that than egm's idea of 'toughness.'
and if this post makes no sense it's because it's 4 o clock on a sunday morning and i'm still drunk
DenogginizerOS
BenjaminBirdie's Thomas Jefferson
ElFly said:
Agreed. People will buy this game to show off their PS3 if anything else.
titiklabingapat
Member
I think there lies the problems for some. If the game do suck(which are still preliminary right now since reviews are just starting to trickle in), the mentality that it deserve to not get panned because of the high production values alone is, well, aggravating to some people(Wollan said:
Wii people
typhonsentra
Banned
When did everyone decide the Squadron series was bad again? I thought III was pretty amazing, ridiculous amounts of content packed into a tiny disc.
DenogginizerOS
BenjaminBirdie's Thomas Jefferson
Despite the reviews, I think the uniqueness of LAIR (can't think of any games where you fly on a dragon that have come out in the last 4-5 years) along with its amazing visuals will be enough for PS3 owners to giive it a try. If this were coming out after the bigger franchises such as Ratchet or GTA, then I'd say LAIR was dead. But I think people will go to the store to buy Madden, see LAIR on the shelves, and be curious enough to rent or buy it.
While the caps are extremely annoying, I agree. It's pretty amazing how three reviews have so easily been thrown away by so manyMike Works said:there has been some AMAZING damage control in this thread
I DON'T TRUST THESE REVIEWERS
I DON'T TRUST EGM
I TRUST GAMEPRO MORE THAN EGM, THEIR RATING SCALE IS MORE REALISTIC... WHEN THEY RATE A CATEGORY 4 OUT OF 5 THE FACE IS LIKE
I PREDICT THE AVERAGE SCORES TO BE AROUND 7-8 SO 7-8 IS GOOD HEY GUYS DID YOU HEAR LAIR GOT 8 OUT OF 10 IN MY MIND
THE REVIEW COMPLAINED THAT IT WAS TIRESOME TO PLAY OVER A LONG PERIOD OF TIME WITH THE MOTION CONTROLS, BUT I PLAYED THE GAME FOR 10 MINUTES AND IT FELT FINE TO ME
IF THE CONTROLS ARE THE PROBLEM, THAT'S OKAY WITH ME, I'M GOOD AT CONTROLS
you guys are awesome, NEVER STOP BELIEVING!
test_account
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dralla said:
True that. I've seen people saying they wont buy a game based on a review. Sure, you can take notes etc., but reviews are just personal opinion, your own opinion of the game can be complete different. Atleast i hope these people try the demo or rent the game first before they decide to buy or not, not just based on a review.
dralla said:
So if reviews are useless why are we talking about them on gaf ? we just have to ban egm/ign/gamepro/etc ...
I don't have the money to buy all the games, and when i try a game like 10 min, i can't say if it will be "good" after 10 hours.
I read review because it helps me to chose my games because i don't have much money (and i suppose that i am not alone)
test_account
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Sapapayo said:
What happends if you read a review and the reviewer say the game gets damn boring, but then maybe 1 year later you pick up the game at a cheap price and find it very cool to play?
Its not like i dont read reviews, i do that sometimes because i like to read what people think of the game thats being reviewed. But opinions can be so different so i will try the game before i make up my own opinion about it, not going by what other people say.