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Official Madden 13 Xbox 360 Online Franchise Thread:Stat padding? Never heard of him.
- Thread starter Ramirez
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No need to apologize. I would have at least deflected it if the game wasn't so weird
Yeah, there are certain routes that make Champ Bailey look lost on the field. But for the most part, dumping all my xp into MCV has paid off.
Holding Y at the snap seems to make my guys stand still too... at least they did when I tried that at the beginning of the first season. I just hold Y whenever the ball is thrown into the air. I wish it were like last years system. I was so much better at just tapping Y when strafing with a receiver.
FrenchMovieTheme
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Seems like holding Y at the snap turned my lbs in covg into retards. I had it happen against the ravens and pwill just stood still and the TE was open by 5 yards on a drag route but livewire didn't see it. Idk though ill test it out in practice on holding vs not holding!
From what I experienced, you can't, unless you hold down Y rather than tapping it. But even from holding it at the wrong moments, it'll instantly make your defender stand still or not go after the ball. Tapping Y seems to do the same thing. I think the only way the Y system works is that you have to press it about a couple of seconds before the ball arrives to the receiver.
I wonder if block and release routes would be a good counter to this Y all the time coverage, or maybe draws as well. Would really suck if it's just effective no matter what.
Ah, maybe I've always held the button longer than I realize.
Ah, maybe I've always held the button longer than I realize.
Wellington
BAAAALLLINNN'
So you do it all the time but it didn't work once. That explains how you got 6 picks off of me last time. No more!
FrenchMovieTheme
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Not all the time! But I won't be doing it ever now. OP defense don't need no Y!
TheDrizzlerJ11
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I only ever hit Y when the balls in the air. So you're telling me that's cheesey too because of how the other DBs go right to the wideout? Or just this hold Y at the snap nonsense?
storybook77
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It completely kills the whole play the ball if they see it aspect that they tried to say they fixed.
If you're holding down Y, doesn't matter if your/CPU player "sees" the ball or not, he automatically makes his way to the ball.
It makes the passing game stupidly hard at times especially on deeper routes. You can make the proper read on the coverage but if your opponent holds Y soon enough, it won't matter.
If you're holding down Y, doesn't matter if your/CPU player "sees" the ball or not, he automatically makes his way to the ball.
It makes the passing game stupidly hard at times especially on deeper routes. You can make the proper read on the coverage but if your opponent holds Y soon enough, it won't matter.
FrenchMovieTheme
Member
I've held Y and never made a secret of it. You saw that first hand with me switching with the ball in the air and picking you off 4 times!
But I don't hold it at the start all play every play. And now I won't ever again hold it at the start of the play. Didn't even think about it and if I knew it caused issues I would have made an effort to never do it
Thats a lie because you ran twins last year when you knew it was an issue. Asshole.
storybook77
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FrenchMovieTheme
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storybook77
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Some of the issues are that the defensive players can cover some serious ground in a short time but the ball speed is slow as fuck. The trajectories need more work. I should be able to drop a ball over the LB and before the safety arrives with fair consistency.
The defender wins too much on contested passes, IMO.
The defender wins too much on contested passes, IMO.
FrenchMovieTheme
Member
Legal because you used them. Shit was as broken as Alex Smith's confidence.
FrenchMovieTheme
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Legal because I didn't want to take away a good chunk of play books away from people unlike your dumb ass wanting to ban DL play before you ever played the game!
And a lot of good those 4 plays I ran all year with twins did me! 0 championships! In that regard I guess no plays you have ever run in any madden have done you any good since you are championship-less, just like the real eagles! We truly are a sim league
Oh I saw it. Where do you think I was throwing? The ball doesn't go where I want it to go half the time. There's gotta be something to the AWR/cold streak/"total control" passing that I'm missing. That and what storybook has been saying.
So to understand this Y thing...in previous Maddens you would hold Y to try and better secure a catch (whether you're the WR making the catch or the DB making the pick) and you would tap y to try and spectacular catch (one-handed INT). So what LJ is saying is that now holding Y will also help make you backpedal/run to the trajectory? Is this when you've got the defender selected? Or is it when you're playing D and holding it the entire time from the snap?
Is this serious?
FrenchMovieTheme
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It's no lie. I don't run twins much anyways and after I realized the cb didn't follow I didn't run it. All of those 4 times took place in season 1 within the first few weeks of the season. I think my last time using it was against the eagles which would have been week 4 of season 1.
bullshiiiiiiiit. get the fuck out of here. Ramirez wasnt even twins head 4 weeks into season one and i CLEARLY remember you using it against me in later seasons. You couldnt be lying more right now
TheDrizzlerJ11
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Everyone was running twins last madden in season 1. Once it was accepted as cheese and I stopped running it Reggie's toss game went to hell but this wasn't until the end of season 1. Running out of strong/weak twins is/was my favorite way to run.
FrenchMovieTheme
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TheDrizzlerJ11
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What's funny is the guy who just uses 5-6 of send-all-my-WRs-deep-I'm-running-it with-Vick on his last drive to beat me that first season is calling you out for cheese.
I dont need to find shit. Thats the most ridiculous claim from you since you tried to cry about pumpfaking breaking the game because you were butthurt i kicked your ass. AT already backs me and we would be two of the people to know considering how many times we matched up.
Its time to retire old man. You are going real David Stern right now.
Play zone. Or QB Spy. Or QB contain. Or watch me yourself. What i was doing wasnt breaking the game. It was just breaking a lesser player that couldnt stop running 2 man out of the dime package.
Holding Y when the ball is in the air is the ballhawk feature
TheDrizzlerJ11
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lololol wait wait wait. So if im doing something thats working and NOT game breaking, its on ME to stop? Instead of you running the same defensive play all the way down the field?
ahahahahahahahahahahaha. If i didnt know better id feel like this was a joke.
TheDrizzlerJ11
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We've had this conversation. I didn't run 2 man under the whole way but it definitely was called too much. Plus calling zone Ds with those Miami DBs never ends well. All that matters is when Vick is used the way you used him at the end of that 4th, he is the cheesiest and toughest offensive player to stop. At least Crow runs designed QB runs, you just cheese it up when you feel that loss coming.
Its my fault that your DB's sucked and linebackers were slow? ahahahahahahaha this just keeps getting better. I feel Like Stephen A Smith laughing at Tiago Splitter.
You think Vick is highly rated in this game because of his accuracy? You think his scrambles in real life were designed? Nope. Alot of his big runs came from him making a linebacker miss while the DB's and/or safety's had their back turned on the play and he took off. You should have to account for Vick. Thinking you can do nothing about him and it be MY fault is the funniest thing ive heard in a while.
You think Vick is highly rated in this game because of his accuracy? You think his scrambles in real life were designed? Nope. Alot of his big runs came from him making a linebacker miss while the DB's and/or safety's had their back turned on the play and he took off. You should have to account for Vick. Thinking you can do nothing about him and it be MY fault is the funniest thing ive heard in a while.
Well if it's a wounded duck, holding Y would intercept the ball in any Madden, old or new.
What I'm asking is how is it affecting a pass to an open receiver, or a receiver between an LB and a safety, or a receiver who's got a step and proper positioning against the defender? I'm assuming this means it is automatically making the defender teleport/undercut/ninja jump/eyes-in-the-back-of-the-head-turn-around type shit?
Yep. He did this in the Portis memorial game too, trying to claw back into the game with McNabb scrambling. Also did it in Peter Tanico's victory over the Eagles (then Ryan Kerrigan put Vick out for a few weeks).
comment is trash
FrenchMovieTheme
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AT the guy who gets no dline pressure. Are you both seriously claiming I ran twins with any regularity? Lol hilarious.
Keep fighting the good fight. One day it might help you win anything of consequence but right now you're just a lovable loser who poses no real threat in any given season!
YOU ARE
TheDrizzlerJ11
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You ran it again and again, it was like 5-7 times on the game winning drive. Just like you said. Make one LB miss / break the tackle and all the DBs are 20 yards down the field because you send 4 receivers deep. That may happen in a Michael Vick game, but no chance it's designed to happen again and again, but yeah sure, you coached a sim game.
It's funny that you act like it isn't cheese, but only run it at the end of the 4th in a game where you haven't been driving on me. Why wouldn't you do it the whole game if I simply wasn't taking Vick into account the whole time? Riiiiiiiight, cause you could feel the guilt as you were running that play. I think I understand where you're coming from, hate that feeling of guilt, but losing is so much worst.