The game itself is pure. Its your teammates/enemies that bring the trash.
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Official Madden '17 PS4 Online League Thread: DOTA is dead, long live DOTA
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The game itself is pure. Its your teammates/enemies that bring the trash.
Purple Cheeto
Member
How many plays though? Game length is less relevant than plays and possessions.
TheLostBigBoss
Banned
Game length and plays + possessions are going to be associated simply due to "more time = more plays", although the connection may not be linear in nature (based on different play styles like Welli running the clock down till the universe dies of heat death, or someone like Bowser who likes to snap it off as soon as possible)
When I get home I'll do a more detailed run down of samples from Madden 16 games and games from this season that people have streamed.
Azwethinkweiz
Member
I will say that while the game length doesn't bother me too much, I do find myself abandoning the run earlier unless I'm way ahead. It's harder to run this year and with less time to run your offense, it kind feels like the game is almost over by the time you've established it.
TheLostBigBoss
Banned
This is my main concern with game length. There is little time to get a game-plan established or even attempt a come-back without slinging it in the third quarter if you're down by two scores.
We saw FMT having to no huddle five minutes into the fourth quarter against you only down by 10, simply because if he had used normal play calling, by the time he was down in the redzone the two minute warning would have hit already.
I don't think anyone had an issue with game length last year, maybe it was a little too long, but current length is simply far too short.
TheLostBigBoss
Banned
You can hurry up offense, but its not like in single player where you still have a chance to pick plays on defense with a menu.
Right, you can hold triangle to do a true hurry up, but no way to turn off the run clock stuff
Adjusting the playclock by 5 seconds won't change this.
People that run the clock aren't going to stop running the clock, it just gives them more time to think.
If people legit want games longer, the only solution is to increase quarter length.
TheLostBigBoss
Banned
Adjusting the playclock by 5 seconds won't change this.
People that run the clock aren't going to stop running the clock, it just gives them more time to think.
If people legit want games longer, the only solution is to increase quarter length.
Well, yea, I'm advocating for 30 seconds of acceleration clock to start off. No acceleration clock didn't prevent people running down the clock last season, however most people don't burn up the entire clock, that style is limited to a few people in the league.
When I get home, I'm gonna go stream hunting and see if Drizzler wants to help me test out game length to see what's the best combination of things.
Purple Cheeto
Member
Games are about 80 plays long right now. If you add 10 seconds per play back, you've added about 13 minutes of real world time back to each game session.
DCX
DCX
Sounds good to me. 35 minutes is a bit short, ~50 would be perfect.
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and yeah, the playclock thing will just give me more time to make adjustments, I'm guessing... not exactly adding much to the experience for the other player
FrenchMovieTheme
Member
i hate running hurry up but i had to because with a 10 point defecit in the 4th, i would have basically had no time left after scoring my first TD.
at the beginning of the 2nd half i was down 17-0. i didn't run any no huddle in the 3rd and on my first drive i scored a TD. by the time that drive was over, i think there was 1:30 left in the 3rd quarter? kinda shitty :/
ultimately in the game, i ran over 60 plays. mostly because az had short drives thanks to the fumbles. i think there maybe needs to be a little bit more time for each team but there are also going to be games where both teams get long TD's and your yardage will be high despite lesser plays.
if it were my choice alone, i think i would prefer doing 6 min quarters with no accel clock. i would never feel the need to do accel clock and the way i call plays i would get a ton of plays off. i rarely take long to pick a play.
at the beginning of the 2nd half i was down 17-0. i didn't run any no huddle in the 3rd and on my first drive i scored a TD. by the time that drive was over, i think there was 1:30 left in the 3rd quarter? kinda shitty :/
ultimately in the game, i ran over 60 plays. mostly because az had short drives thanks to the fumbles. i think there maybe needs to be a little bit more time for each team but there are also going to be games where both teams get long TD's and your yardage will be high despite lesser plays.
if it were my choice alone, i think i would prefer doing 6 min quarters with no accel clock. i would never feel the need to do accel clock and the way i call plays i would get a ton of plays off. i rarely take long to pick a play.
TheLostBigBoss
Banned
I would be down with trying that
FrenchMovieTheme
Member
how many times has this happened to you?
That's the real problem.
TheLostBigBoss
Banned
People who burn clock with 20 sec acceleration are doing just fine with their play/audibles having, at best, 14 seconds (takes around six to five seconds to get to line) to get the play off.
So, we can either verbally and physically assault anyone who is draining a 35 second play clock down to 10 seconds or less, or we bump up quarter length by a few minutes and keep acceleration clock at 20 seconds so we don't have to deal with that.
Personally I'm for keeping acceleration clock to force pace of game to move along, while increasing quarter length by 2 minutes to increase game length.
So, we can either verbally and physically assault anyone who is draining a 35 second play clock down to 10 seconds or less, or we bump up quarter length by a few minutes and keep acceleration clock at 20 seconds so we don't have to deal with that.
Personally I'm for keeping acceleration clock to force pace of game to move along, while increasing quarter length by 2 minutes to increase game length.
I think I'm somewhere in the middle when it comes to how far into the clock I call the play, sometimes I do take forever and sometimes I know exactly what I'm going for, I personally prefer it off because of that
When I check at the LOS, I'm really not a hot route person, I just see my play art and try to envision if it's going to work against the defense, if I don't like it, I abort to something else, so plan B is usually when I take forever
When I check at the LOS, I'm really not a hot route person, I just see my play art and try to envision if it's going to work against the defense, if I don't like it, I abort to something else, so plan B is usually when I take forever
TheDrizzlerJ11
Member
Yeah I do the same thing except before the audible I may do a hot route if I see something that makes sense.
I think we should make quarters like a minute longer and change accel clock to 25. Whatever though!
FrenchMovieTheme
Member
They are both published by 2k. Its probably their issue.
DCX
DCX
FrenchMovieTheme
Member
yes you will absolutely get it. i "pre-ordered" madden at 8 pm the day before release and "picked up" my preorder at 9 pm the same day since they had an after-closing release for it. you will be fine at best buy. you could even order from their website now for in-store pick up and you'll be able to get it tomorrow
p.s.
if you don't have GCU let me know and i can order it for you for pickup at your best buy, then you could just paypal me whatever the amount is
DCX
DCX
FrenchMovieTheme
Member
Don't forget to get some VC
nothing like paying $50 for a f2p game!
I had to play Somnia three times in week 1, then Lonestar twice last night when we got disconnected late in the third quarter.
NFL stan
You may be the only one in this league who schedules his Madden game around a Thursday night football game that doesn't involve your team
FrenchMovieTheme
Member
if thursday night during a TNF game was the only time someone would play i would. i prefer to watch any football game tho
FrenchMovieTheme
Member
DCX
DCX
Azwethinkweiz
Member
I'm glad he pushed me to play last night. I may have lost otherwise!
CrimsonCommie
Member
Lol GG smokey. Maclin slow as fuck