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Official Madden Season 11 Thread: The school books say it can't be here again!
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FrenchMovieTheme
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gots to rack up the wins vs. AFC opponents!
Luke beat Bob in OT! Steelers 1-1 now. Bob and are tied with 1-1 records. 14 yards what?
FrenchMovieTheme
Member
adjusted the rules on running the score up since majority disagreed with a lost game for running the score up. now it will "only" result in draft ramifications. so if you're not going to play in another madden season after this, run the score up boys!
LukeSmith said:
Yeah he kicked my ass on the ground, but that holmes catch is gonna haunt me until I can get my next game in!
He ruined my epic comeback. Falling down 28-24 with 1:13 left, no timeouts, get the ball at my own 19 yard line. I drive 81 yards downfield and score a TD with 29 seconds left to go up 31-28. Only to have my comeback ruined by Holmes catching a 40 yard bomb in double coverage with 13 seconds left in the game to help bring the game to OT where Parker raped me once again. :/
FrenchMovieTheme said:
I'm not sure about this..so we'll permit people being assholes but only as long as they just play 14 more games with us? I think it's better to just clarify what is and isn't 'running up the score' after all, striker was afraid to kick a FG against me when he was up by 2 scores.
FrenchMovieTheme
Member
people know what running the score up is. shawn isn't stupid. lonestar isn't stupid. ando isn't stupid.
don't run the score up and there will be no problem. is it ok to kick a fg with 4 minutes left in the game when you're up 50-0 on your opponents 5 yard line? yes. what else are you supposed to do? punt?
is it ok to continually pass the ball with 4 minutes left when you are up 50-0? not really.
don't run the score up and there will be no problem. is it ok to kick a fg with 4 minutes left in the game when you're up 50-0 on your opponents 5 yard line? yes. what else are you supposed to do? punt?
is it ok to continually pass the ball with 4 minutes left when you are up 50-0? not really.
Shawnwhann
Banned
FMT said:
We're still talking this stuff? If a bunch of people complain about me running up the score or whatever, I'll voluntarily leave before I stick around in a league where everyone wishes I was gone.
If we really wanna nip this thing in the bud, why don't we establish some type of mercy rule like they do in little league baseball? In baseball when someone is losing really bad, they call the game early so confidence and feelings aren't hurt. That way, everyone saves time and face. The winner doesn't have to play through a game where they have to sit on thier controller, and the other guy doesn't have to endure any extra embarassment from the blowout...
Regarding stats, both parties can take digital captures of the stats and apply them after the game. As far as the line in the sand, I say any time a player is down by 28 or more in the second half they would qualify for the mercy rule...
VOTE or DIE!!
Well, my situation with Fifty was: I got the ball and I just ran the ball for a couple yards and I ended up around the 20-yard line. I tried sending him a quick text message, "is it ok to fg?", but he didn't reply, so I just punted it (touchback). The score was 24-0 and there was about 3 mins. left...FrenchMovieTheme said:
Yeah, I didn't reply because I was so beaten down that giving you permission to do the obvious was just too much. I was having my worst game ever, and the last thing I wanted to say was "yes" (you can score more points against me!)
I think in regards to running up the score, and to 4th downs, the most important thing is to just use common sense. But maybe that's just me being a nice person who's too naive. I feel that if people need to check the rules (which they do) before attempting crucial 4th downs and kicking FGs inside the 30, I think we might have made the rules too complicated.
I think in regards to running up the score, and to 4th downs, the most important thing is to just use common sense. But maybe that's just me being a nice person who's too naive. I feel that if people need to check the rules (which they do) before attempting crucial 4th downs and kicking FGs inside the 30, I think we might have made the rules too complicated.
Most of my games wind up close, so it rarely comes up... and maybe it's wishful thinking, but I like to think that people on both sides of the game know the difference between running up the score and just keeping the ball.
If I have a 14 or maybe even a 21 point lead at the start of the 4th (I WISH, RIGHT?!?!?!), I'm not going to run face-first into a wall three times and then punt it. I'll probably try to run first, but six minutes is a lot of time.
That said, there's a big difference between opening up the playbook and getting first downs against a guy who's selling out on the run, and chucking it deep. I know Madden's short-medium game is sort of wonky and defenders are a bit too sharp, but if you're being forced to pass, there should probably be an open man somewhere.
EDIT: BTW, has AirBrian been abducted? Haven't seen him post in this thread in some time, and I know he's got a game with Ando too...
If I have a 14 or maybe even a 21 point lead at the start of the 4th (I WISH, RIGHT?!?!?!), I'm not going to run face-first into a wall three times and then punt it. I'll probably try to run first, but six minutes is a lot of time.
That said, there's a big difference between opening up the playbook and getting first downs against a guy who's selling out on the run, and chucking it deep. I know Madden's short-medium game is sort of wonky and defenders are a bit too sharp, but if you're being forced to pass, there should probably be an open man somewhere.
EDIT: BTW, has AirBrian been abducted? Haven't seen him post in this thread in some time, and I know he's got a game with Ando too...
Shawnwhann
Banned
50 said:
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Shawnwhann
Banned
Ramirez- I've had several games where opponents have paused the game to read the rules to see if they could go for a 4th down attempt. I was simply in agreemnet with Fifty that the rules are convoluted as hell for that scenario. I understand and appreciate the concessions FMT made to allow for certain situiations, but as it stands now it is a couple paragraphs long iirc.
DCX-I don't feel guilt about anything. I referenced the scenario because FMT decided to call me out on his spiel about running up the score. A week later I am still proud about how I managed to shut down the second best team in the game.
Daw-My mercy rule was not a terrible idea, it's the same ideology that's behind the "concede defeat" functionality in ranked games. Perhaps my perspective on it is a bit skewed towards the perspective of the winning party because that is the scenario I usually find myself in. I'm not tooting my horn, it's just helping you understand my perspective.
All-Whether it's not running up the score or conceding defeat, they both help the losing party save face. My option allows for the game to end sooner.
DCX-I don't feel guilt about anything. I referenced the scenario because FMT decided to call me out on his spiel about running up the score. A week later I am still proud about how I managed to shut down the second best team in the game.
Daw-My mercy rule was not a terrible idea, it's the same ideology that's behind the "concede defeat" functionality in ranked games. Perhaps my perspective on it is a bit skewed towards the perspective of the winning party because that is the scenario I usually find myself in. I'm not tooting my horn, it's just helping you understand my perspective.
All-Whether it's not running up the score or conceding defeat, they both help the losing party save face. My option allows for the game to end sooner.
Shawnwhann
Banned
DCX said:
:lol you're good at taking slick potshots. Obviously that 44 point loss is not completely out your system.
Anyways, I'm glad you have your confidence back. I too hope we meet in the playoffs, because I'd LOVE to have the opportunity to end your season!
Shawnwhann said:
I understand the logic behind the rule, but if you are playing in a "sim" league that tracks statistics and such. Ending a game early does not give your players the same time on the field as the other players in the league. I know this sounds a little picky, but I am obviously not good enough (yet, i am ferverishly working on that) to seriously compete in this league. One of my only joys in putting in the stats is to see if I can be the best at any of the broken down categories (i.e. catches, yards, tackles, etc.) Personally, I think that running up the score benefits the losing party. It gives you a lot more oppurtunities on offense to try to figure out how to beat that team/gaffer the next time you play them.
Just my two cents.
Yeah, good game. 3 INTs, 2 pick-sixes, and a punt return TD. Not pretty. And Derrick Brooks made The Tank his personal bitch. Your D-line is sick!Andokuky said:
Sorry, FMT! I was trying to get it to VD, but Ando and his defense were too good! Two PA to VD for 14 Tampa Bay points. :lol
Shawnwhann
Banned
Point taken, I'll refrain from further commentary since it appears we are moving on from this wedge issue.
AirBrian said:
Seriously, does anyone know where AirBrian is???
My bad, actually. I think I clicked a page before the current page in my look back in the thread, which meant I missed your post.
I've got an event to attend tonight, but I'm available late tonight (after 9 PT, I think?). Tomorrow, I think I'm catching a matinee with the wife, but otherwise I can probably set up a time to play... Saturday, I have no idea what's on tap, but again, I should be able to set up a time... what works best for you?
Well gg, that was about the most bullshit game of Madden I have played on 08 but oh well. Pretty much dominated on defense but 3 straight magic fumbles returned for touchdowns puts me in a huge hole. Garcia overthrows passes left and right in the second half and we go to OT where I put the defensive shade on Williamson with Barber covering him and a safety over the top and the prayer bomb is still caught in double coverage down to the 1 FTW. I can understand that with some WR who is actually good but Troy fucking Williamson? In double coverage? Rhonde Barber? Fitting end to that game.
Few questions also, since everyone raises issues when I win:
Since when are we allowed to move multiple players on defense?
Since when are we allowed to move blockers back on punts before the snap? I could have sworn this was in the rules but I'm not seeing it. Maybe I'm just confused.
Since when can we go for it when we aren't across the 50 in a tie game?
Again gg, aside from those questions and of course the 3 straight magic fumble TD's it was good times.
I guess we just copy down stats and report when the week is open?
Few questions also, since everyone raises issues when I win:
Since when are we allowed to move multiple players on defense?
Since when are we allowed to move blockers back on punts before the snap? I could have sworn this was in the rules but I'm not seeing it. Maybe I'm just confused.
Since when can we go for it when we aren't across the 50 in a tie game?
Again gg, aside from those questions and of course the 3 straight magic fumble TD's it was good times.
I guess we just copy down stats and report when the week is open?
FrenchMovieTheme
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lonestar if you're around and want your beatin' let me know!
FrenchMovieTheme
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1. move multiple players how? if it is to get them to lineup and cover the right guy that's fine. if it's someone manually moving everyone in the box thats not fine.
2. there was never a rule to move blockers back on punts. it is especially not a rule this year because 1) the game always stupidly defaults to punt block and 2) because the "defensive playclock select" time is about 5 seconds, most of the time you don't have the time to leave that menu, and then get to punt return. therefore you're stuck with NO blockers because the game is retarded.
3. going for it on 4th and short (couple yards or less) is acceptable late in a tie game. not sure when it happened on your game or what the yardage was.
FrenchMovieTheme said:
1. Move one safety closer to the LOS, switch off him and manually control the other safety.
2. Well like I said, maybe I was mistaken. But in this situation it was never a matter of being in punt block. Imho the rule should be implemented because it's already easy enough to get punt return yardage because most punters out kick the shit out of the coverage. Having 2 guys back there to block what is usually 1-2 guys just makes for even easier punt return yardage. He is the only league opponent I have ever seen do it. But if it's not a rule that's cool, no big deal, now I know I can do it as well.
3. Well the rules say in the 4th quarter in a tie game you can go for it on 4th in your opponents territory, but the ball wasn't across the 50. In the grand scheme of things it didn't matter and I stopped him on the next set of downs anyway but I just wanted clarification on the rule. Imho the 4th down rules are way too damn confusing.
FrenchMovieTheme said:
While I agree that having only 5 seconds sucks, I don't think I've not had the time to choose the right PR play more than once. You know your opponent is punting 19/20 times he punts, and you can pick your play while he's picking punt, so everyone should have time to get off stupid default punt block and switch to PR.