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Official Madden Season 11 Thread: The school books say it can't be here again!

LukeSmith

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Malleymal said:
lets play luke

I gotta do the Bungie Humpday at 9 p.m. so I can't play tonight till after that :(

We gotta scrim though, the only other time we played I spent a week trying to figure out a way to deal with TGonz, now I have to solve the AD issue
 

Malleymal

You now belong to FMT.
Cool mayne sounds like a plan....

I am heading to the Practice field now to figure out how to perfect my FG block coverage... I am going to hold Josh Brown in check!!!
 

Rorschach

Member
GG Coldblooded..er CB3.

Oh, man, I couldn't tackle to save my life and the gang tackles on Westbrook were broken so easily. My offense was just not clicking...the ints were BS, but it's not like they mattered. After that Jordan fumble, I was just not into it anymore. :[


daw840 said:
Never said anything about quitting the league. But I would have probably pulled out my rifle and tried to shoot myself if I kept playing the game with DCX. Since it was just a unranked scrim game I don't really think it matters...
I meant the game. :p Stick it out!
 
Another game..and another 40+ point effort. I'm so glad Carolina's defense is so shitty, I have free reign to let the offense fly all game!

Steve Smith comes through again with another NFC Player of the Week caliber performance!

11 catches for 191 yards for 3TDs

4-0 yet the next two games are vs Wellie and Ando. One I'm looking forward to and the other....well....I'll just leave it at that!
 

LukeSmith

Member
Shawnwhann said:
Another game..and another 40+ point effort. I'm so glad Carolina's defense is so shitty, I have free reign to let the offense fly all game!

Steve Smith comes through again with another NFC Player of the Week caliber performance!

11 catches for 191 yards for 3TDs

4-0 yet the next two games are vs Wellie and Ando. One I'm looking forward to and the other....well....I'll just leave it at that!

Hopefully EA will patch manlock back into the game!
 
Luke said:
Hopefully EA will patch manlock back into the game!

Hopefully not before I tackle your Seachickens. I'll forever hate those fuckers to backpeddling into the next round of the playoffs last year off of a fluke play by Romo...

Seriously though, defensive matchups should be a priority next year. Until then, Super Steve Smith will continue running amok vs. zones and 3rd string cornerbacks. :D
 

LukeSmith

Member
Shawnwhann said:
Hopefully not before I tackle your Seachickens. I'll forever hate those fuckers to backpeddling into the next round of the playoffs last year off of a fluke play by Romo...

Seriously though, defensive matchups should be a priority next year. Until then, Super Steve Smith will continue running amok vs. zones and 3rd string cornerbacks. :D

Yeah exactly, takes tons of skill to line him up in against a Nickel back. :p He won't catch 11 balls for 191 against trufant.
 

Rorschach

Member
Don't blame the Seahawks for the Cowboys giving away that game. The Seachickens were so injured on defense that they were, not only playing practice squad players, they were playing dudes off the street (literally). If the Cowboys couldn't beat that, they didn't deserve to go further.

Sports_SeahawksVsCowboys2.jpg


Never forget.
 
guys lets keep the shifting of your #1 WR to a minimum. i'm not saying don't ever do it, but doing it in every critical situation is pretty shady (i feel).

if man-lock was in the game this would be a non-issue. but it's not fair to put your 95+ WR against a 68 rated Dime back.

i'm not pointing the finger at shawn or ando or matt or myself or anyone else with a top flight spectacular catch receiver. just saying lets not be shifting that #1 WR around a lot, it's not really fair.
 
Luke said:
Yeah exactly, takes tons of skill to line him up in against a Nickel back. :p He won't catch 11 balls for 191 against trufant.

Ehhh...I've always lined up my skill players in positions where they are all over the field throughout my years playing Madden. Not doing nothing I haven't always done...

The overwhelming majority of the league players usually calling man coverage is the reason why Smith is putting up these crazy numbers. It makes it easy to call plays to counteract the same looks I get defensively. This is certain to change vs. Wellie though as he is one of the best at mixing his coverages.
 

LukeSmith

Member
Shawnwhann said:
Ehhh...I've always lined up my skill players in positions where they are all over the field throughout my years playing Madden. Not doing nothing I haven't always done...

The overwhelming majority of the league players usually calling man coverage is the reason why Smith is putting up these crazy numbers. It makes it easy to call plays to counteract the same looks I get defensively. This is certain to change vs. Wellie though as he is one of the best at mixing his coverages.

Like I said I want manlock!
 

SickBoy

Member
Wow, I'm a little surprised by all the strife here...

Thoughts about the league:

1) I really do think we need to emphasize the rules. Occasionally people screw up unintentionally, and that's bound to happen. I've accidentally shifted my line the wrong way every now and again, and I've accidentally moved D linemen. But if these things happen more than one or two times a game, there's a problem. Hell, they shouldn't even happen that much. I think there are people who take liberties, people who don't play sim ball - in any sense - and I think that's a problem.

2) I think people should bring questions about the rules if they have them. If they feel a player did something wrong, they should ask. I shifted Leonard Little manually to the opposite side of my line two games ago. I didn't think anything of it, because I wasn't rushing him -- I was using him to manually cover Vernon Davis (in addition to my existing coverage), who had gone in motion. I don't think there's a problem with that, but if AirBrian had an issue, I'd like to think he'd bring it up.

3) If Bryan Intihar makes it into a future incarnation (or takes over a team this year), he should be punished with blowouts for calling this game "great" as recently as a week ago. It's better than 2K, but that's not "great."
 

LukeSmith

Member
SickBoy said:
Wow, I'm a little surprised by all the strife here...

I'm not. There's a lot of "anything to win" in this league. It's getting tiresome. I'd assume this will be the last season for a lot of folks unless things change.
 

SickBoy

Member
LukeSmith said:
I'm not. There's a lot of "anything to win" in this league. It's getting tiresome. I'd assume this will be the last season for a lot of folks unless things change.

Maybe I've just played the right teams this year... I haven't had issues with anyone's playstyle yet (except my own in the last game... clearly Bulger's concussion affected me). Didn't have any huge issues last year, although if I had a stretch against the wrong people, I could see getting pretty fed up.
 

LukeSmith

Member
SickBoy said:
Maybe I've just played the right teams this year... I haven't had issues with anyone's playstyle yet (except my own in the last game... clearly Bulger's concussion affected me). Didn't have any huge issues last year, although if I had a stretch against the wrong people, I could see getting pretty fed up.

My schedule has been fine this year, that's not what I was implying. I was more or less taking a guess at the climate of the league if you read the last few pages of the thread ;b
 

SickBoy

Member
LukeSmith said:
My schedule has been fine this year, that's not what I was implying. I was more or less taking a guess at the climate of the league if you read the last few pages of the thread ;b

Didn't mean to suggest that. Just offering my perspective (in that I haven't seen a lot of 'anything to win' this year). But I do know it's out there, and if a coach sees it game after game, I can see how it would wear thin. Fast.
 

Rorschach

Member
SickBoy said:
Didn't mean to suggest that. Just offering my perspective (in that I haven't seen a lot of 'anything to win' this year). But I do know it's out there, and if a coach sees it game after game, I can see how it would wear thin. Fast.
It does.

3) If Bryan Intihar makes it into a future incarnation (or takes over a team this year), he should be punished with blowouts for calling this game "great" as recently as a week ago. It's better than 2K, but that's not "great."
It's not a bad game. It can be great. It just needs a little more tweaking, but "next-gen" Madden is almost caught up to last gen Madden. :lol I still enjoy it.

Damnit! My profile was corrupted, so I had to delete everything! My beautiful franchise!!! T_T

All that hard work :( DM: we can't be ring buddies now!!!



[edit] Also, the McCown/Bush era will begin momentarily!
 

Wellington

BAAAALLLINNN'
Shawnwhann said:
Ehhh...I've always lined up my skill players in positions where they are all over the field throughout my years playing Madden. Not doing nothing I haven't always done...

The overwhelming majority of the league players usually calling man coverage is the reason why Smith is putting up these crazy numbers. It makes it easy to call plays to counteract the same looks I get defensively. This is certain to change vs. Wellie though as he is one of the best at mixing his coverages.
We played that one game in which through audibling TO ended up at TE. Luckily I had a good audible for that one ready or I would have been toast. :lol

I don't really have a problem with moving around WRs. On D you should be able to react to it before getting totally destroyed. I've done some crazy coverages man to man, including putting a DT on one of Rors receivers in the last game we played (It was completely accidental, but it can be done!)
 

Malleymal

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I like a real good challenge and dont mind people mixing it up... Now that I actually am done travel season where I work, I have had the opportunity to actually play outside my league games this season and its all starting to make sense. Time to party like its Madden 06 on the xbox....

Spoke with LJ and he should hopefully be back to take his bills shortly, hopefully before his game with wellie
 
FrenchMovieTheme said:
guys lets keep the shifting of your #1 WR to a minimum. i'm not saying don't ever do it, but doing it in every critical situation is pretty shady (i feel).

if man-lock was in the game this would be a non-issue. but it's not fair to put your 95+ WR against a 68 rated Dime back.

i'm not pointing the finger at shawn or ando or matt or myself or anyone else with a top flight spectacular catch receiver. just saying lets not be shifting that #1 WR around a lot, it's not really fair.

Hey, now. I never move my receivers so Javon is either beating the best CB or zone coverage!
 
Shawnwhann said:
Ehhh...I've always lined up my skill players in positions where they are all over the field throughout my years playing Madden. Not doing nothing I haven't always done...

The overwhelming majority of the league players usually calling man coverage is the reason why Smith is putting up these crazy numbers. It makes it easy to call plays to counteract the same looks I get defensively. This is certain to change vs. Wellie though as he is one of the best at mixing his coverages.

I'd like to think it also helped that the Bears secondary couldn't tackle him. The guy breaks some crazy tackles. I remember one of the plays he had three people there. He broke through two tackles and was gone. Not much I can do to stop that really. Did you happen to take down my defensive, special teams, and overall stats for me (or a picture or what not)? Anyways good game. The one fumble benson lost hurt (he had 2 but i got lucky and recovered one), as did the grossman one. If only my defense could start getting some turnovers.

Oh and just so its known, I had no problem with the way you lined up smith. I thought you did a great job moving him around a lot.
 

Slo

Member
The league will calm down. I think there's a lot of frustration because people aren't comfortable with their new teams, and have yet to adapt. I'm not used to not being able to stop the run. Or the pass. Or anything. My horrible secondary has me blitzing a ton to compensate, which some might find cheesy. I'm having fun with Brees, Bush and Colston, but I'm not used to not having a power running game and I'm frustrated by it.

This too shall pass.
 
Slo said:
The league will calm down. I think there's a lot of frustration because people aren't comfortable with their new teams, and have yet to adapt. I'm not used to not being able to stop the run. Or the pass. Or anything. My horrible secondary has me blitzing a ton to compensate, which some might find cheesy. I'm having fun with Brees, Bush and Colston, but I'm not used to not having a power running game and I'm frustrated by it.

This too shall pass.

I agree, I think it will calm down soon enough. I think like malley said, people are having a hard time adjusting with new teams and that can be frustrating. That said I'm just trying to have fun this season. I do miss the running game, but I'm not even mad at my losses like I would be last year. I think thats a good thing too, last season I would have gotten so pissed at Smith breaking away from three guys but this year I just said wow and laughed. Anyways like I said, I'm enjoying slinging the ball with Rex. I'm just imagining how nice it will be when the spidey senses are gone (assuming the patch works).
 

LiveWire

Member
Guys guys it's not the game, it's you! You're fumbling and throwing INTs because you can't play! Look at me, I must really suck, throwing 4 INTs with Brady in one game against Fifty using the 99-rated Patriots!

Just be glad you aren't throwing more picks and coughing up more balls than Andy Dick with your sub-85 teams! Because we all know it can't be the game!



That would be absurd!
 

Slo

Member
LiveWire said:
Guys guys it's not the game, it's you! You're fumbling and throwing INTs because you can't play! Look at me, I must really suck, throwing 4 INTs with Brady in one game against Fifty using the 99-rated Patriots!

Just be glad you aren't throwing more picks and coughing up more balls than Andy Dick with your sub-85 teams! Because we all know it can't be the game!



That would be absurd!

The game is flawed, and the defense cheats to compensate for it's shortcomings. No one is arguing that. However, slingin' and slangin' with a 99 rated QB is going to result in more INTs than playing conservatively with a shitty QB. Sometimes it's just better to take a sack.

One thing I've noticed this season is now that I've got Brees and Colston, it's very tempting to just chuck it up regardless of the coverage. He usually fights for the ball and bails me out of dumb throws. I throw passes I never would have thrown with TJack and TWilliamson.

I don't know if that's the case with you, but I'm just saying.
 

Lonestar

I joined for Erin Brockovich discussion
Slo said:
One thing I've noticed this season is now that I've got Brees and Colston, it's very tempting to just chuck it up regardless of the coverage. He usually fights for the ball and bails me out of dumb throws. I throw passes I never would have thrown with TJack and TWilliamson.

I don't know if that's the case with you, but I'm just saying.

It's been like that with Edwards and Winslow, coming over from Branch and....others WR's (?)
 

LiveWire

Member
Slo said:
The game is flawed, and the defense cheats to compensate for it's shortcomings. No one is arguing that. However, slingin' and slangin' with a 99 rated QB is going to result in more INTs than playing conservatively with a shitty QB. Sometimes it's just better to take a sack.

One thing I've noticed this season is now that I've got Brees and Colston, it's very tempting to just chuck it up regardless of the coverage. He usually fights for the ball and bails me out of dumb throws. I throw passes I never would have thrown with TJack and TWilliamson.

I don't know if that's the case with you, but I'm just saying.

"Slinging and slanging," if that's what you think I'm doing, works far better with Brady than it did with Green or Lemon or Campbell. Brady, obviously, is a HUGE improvement over Green/Lemon. But even he can't escape the games' defensive flaws. I don't know why this is so hard to comprehend.

I think it was against DCX in a scrimmage we had where either Gay or Hobbs turned around and reached THROUGH Owens' stomach to grab the INT. There's really nothing more that needs to be said about the number of INTs thrown by players in this league.
 
LiveWire said:
"Slinging and slanging," if that's what you think I'm doing, works far better with Brady than it did with Green or Lemon or Campbell. Brady, obviously, is a HUGE improvement over Green/Lemon. But even he can't escape the games' defensive flaws. I don't know why this is so hard to comprehend.

I think it was against DCX in a scrimmage we had where either Gay or Hobbs turned around and reached THROUGH Owens' stomach to grab the INT. There's really nothing more that needs to be said about the number of INTs thrown by players in this league.

Thats my favorite defensive play as well. Happens all the time when i see the TE in single coverage with a safety about 10 yards off running a go route. You throw it the ball goes through the te and right into the safeties hands that or the safety goes right through the te and catches it.
 

Slo

Member
LiveWire said:
"Slinging and slanging," if that's what you think I'm doing, works far better with Brady than it did with Green or Lemon or Campbell. Brady, obviously, is a HUGE improvement over Green/Lemon. But even he can't escape the games' defensive flaws. I don't know why this is so hard to comprehend.

I think it was against DCX in a scrimmage we had where either Gay or Hobbs turned around and reached THROUGH Owens' stomach to grab the INT. There's really nothing more that needs to be said about the number of INTs thrown by players in this league.

I don't think we disagree. You're not being attacked.
 

DCX

DCX
LiveWire said:
"Slinging and slanging," if that's what you think I'm doing, works far better with Brady than it did with Green or Lemon or Campbell. Brady, obviously, is a HUGE improvement over Green/Lemon. But even he can't escape the games' defensive flaws. I don't know why this is so hard to comprehend.

I think it was against DCX in a scrimmage we had where either Gay or Hobbs turned around and reached THROUGH Owens' stomach to grab the INT. There's really nothing more that needs to be said about the number of INTs thrown by players in this league.
I thought i was the only one who saw that. Thats what i'm talking about it. You can make the right reads, perfect throws, but it sometimes doesn't matter. I just have to hope people make more mistakes than i to win :p Until the patch comes around and i can finally get used to the Cowboys offensive flow.

DCX
 

LiveWire

Member
Slo said:
I don't think we disagree. You're not being attacked.

I know, but I disagree on your comment about QB play. I played conservative with Green/Lemon and I nearly led the league in INTs. In real football, your comment holds true. Not in Madden--at least, not until this new patch-to-fix-everything (wasn't that what they said last time?) comes through.
 

Malleymal

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Losman is like Peyton Manning to me comparing him with Huard/Croyle, unfortunately i dont get to use him alot in the second half :-( so his numbers arent as gawdy.
 

daw840

Member
Malleymal said:
Losman is like Peyton Manning to me comparing him with Huard/Croyle, unfortunately i dont get to use him alot in the second half :-( so his numbers arent as gawdy.

Yes, I agree. Huard and Croyle would be amazing quarterbacks if the point of the game was to throw to the other team!!:lol

BTW: I like the new avatar malley, hohohohohohohohoho
 

Wellington

BAAAALLLINNN'
I think there is a big difference from QB to QB and from team to team to the point where it does affect play styles. For example, I was playing a game last night with Rors and I had coles over the middle about 8 yards deep and I threw the ball to him. I did nothing different than I have ever done with Eli or whoever I use, but the ball floated so far ahead and for so long that Schweigert was able to jump it. That int would never happen with any other QB, I am convinced of that. Even Rors said it, the ball hung up there for what seemed like days.

On the other hand, I was playing in the rookie's league with Brett Favre and the Packers and I was destroying dudes through the air.

I think the bottom line is that when you pick a team you have to be committed to play like them in real life, they always play to their strength. That of course, is why I suck with the Jets. :lol
 

DenogginizerOS

BenjaminBirdie's Thomas Jefferson
Wellington said:
I think there is a big difference from QB to QB and from team to team to the point where it does affect play styles. For example, I was playing a game last night with Rors and I had coles over the middle about 8 yards deep and I threw the ball to him. I did nothing different than I have ever done with Eli or whoever I use, but the ball floated so far ahead and for so long that Schweigert was able to jump it. That int would never happen with any other QB, I am convinced of that. Even Rors said it, the ball hung up there for what seemed like days.

On the other hand, I was playing in the rookie's league with Brett Favre and the Packers and I was destroying dudes through the air.

I think the bottom line is that when you pick a team you have to be committed to play like them in real life, they always play to their strength. That of course, is why I suck with the Jets. :lol

I could not agree more. Numerous times when I had the Jets I would experience similar issues. It has only gotten worse with the Ravens.

*returns to kicking myself for taking the Ravens*
 

LukeSmith

Member
Wellington said:
I think the bottom line is that when you pick a team you have to be committed to play like them in real life, they always play to their strength. That of course, is why I suck with the Jets. :lol

Or if the wideouts aren't good enough, just kick it like DM would do. Which is my strategy this season. Josh Brown MVP.
 
LukeSmith said:
Or if the wideouts aren't good enough, just kick it like DM would do. Which is my strategy this season. Josh Brown MVP.

Or if the running back can't hold onto the ball, just pass it like me. 1-4 record, but hey i'm having fun.
 
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