Official Mar NBA 2008 Season Thread Of Twin Towers Of Regret And Soviet War Machines
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The Stealth Fox
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Mavs in 4. Too bad it aint happening.jobber said:
You want the Warriors to steal 8th and the Mavs to win and take first place? What kind of Spurs fan are you?
The Stealth Fox
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jobber said:Spurs secret weapon
The red rocket ftw.
Green Shinobi
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It's not that outlandish. I never said it was a fluke. It's just that usually it's just one or two players per game who get red hot. Tonight the whole damn team was hot.reilo said:
Whatever, Lakers should have played better defense. I hope you guys make the playoffs.
Absinthe (Permed)
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Golden State plays too fucking erratic and I'm not even sure they'll make the playoffs. I do not like Chris Webber on that team whatsoever.
The thing is, Ginobili is playing better basketball than Duncan right now (and Duncan is playing great). Look at San Antonio's remaining schedule and it appears that they'll maintain home court in the West.
The thing is, Ginobili is playing better basketball than Duncan right now (and Duncan is playing great). Look at San Antonio's remaining schedule and it appears that they'll maintain home court in the West.
BatiGOOOOOOL
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People have been saying that the Spurs are old since their first championship. Worst reason ever.The Stealth Fox said:
Do you even have to ask about '04? How probable is it for something like Fisher's shot to happen? In '06, Manu's stupid foul when the game was there for the taking was indeed a gamebreaker. The team didn't have anything left in the tank for OT and most people knew that as soon regulation ended.
I know, it's just stuff that happens in basketball, but it's not like there were some huge issues with the team or one of their main players, that prevented the Spurs from advancing.
The Stealth Fox
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Yeah, Spurs are gonna win the SW division I think. Houston, NO, and Phoenix will be fighting for 4, 5, and 6, and Dallas will be the non-division winner in the top 4.Absinthe said:
I'm starting to think that with all these good road teams in the top 8, I don't think HCA will even matter. Houston plays well on the road, SA plays well on the road, and so does New Orleans. Lakers are pretty darn fine on the road also.
Dallas is struggling on the road, but I think they'll get better. Utah ****ing sucks on the road, it's quite obvious that rowdy Utah crowd makes the players play better.
Phoenix on the other hand... sucks at life.
LOL, how awesome would it be to see Phoenix, with their brutal schedule, fall out of the playoffs and Denver gets in. If that happens, it's an easy series for whoever gets them in the first round.
The Stealth Fox
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Sure, the age comment wasn't justified then, but is pretty damn justified now. How long will they keep chugging along?BatiGOOOOOOL said:
If I don't see Duncan, Parker, and Ginobili winning championships in their 60s, your comment is an utter failure. Age always matters, whether you like it or not. The Spurs have dealt with the age issue by signing slightly younger players (who are still old but not quite as old) so they can try to squeeze another championship out of their core with slightly (emphasis on slightly) younger players.
The more you age, the less likely you are to survive a grind-it-out series in the playoffs. Why the hell does that offend you so much? It's just a fact of life, unless you're hiding some Spurs organization secrets from me.
Edit: Speaking of which, when Duncan finishes his career, what will they do? Tank the season and hope for another Duncan that they can steal from the Celtics? :lol
BatiGOOOOOOL
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The Stealth Fox said:
Of course age matters. My point is that it has always been overblown in the Spurs case. Just look at Bowen at his age running more than a 20 year old. Their age doesn't prevent them from executing Pop's gameplan at all.
Also, next year(or in a couple) Mahinmi and Tiago Splitter will probably be in the team, ready to start the transition for when TD retires. So it shouldn't be that bad.
Green Shinobi
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Blazers are 23-12 when James Jones plays, and 8-16 when he sits out.
Damn, I didn't even know about him. I'll have to keep an eye out.
Damn, I didn't even know about him. I'll have to keep an eye out.
The Stealth Fox
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BatiGOOOOOOL said:
It was overblown previously, but I think it will be more of a factor this year. The West is just so tight and the talent disparity between the teams is not much.
I'm not writing it off, I'm just not ready to crown them yet. I still believe in my running and jumping Rockets.
You also still have that potential all-star power forward you drafted in 2002 that could give you 15/10.... oh wait...
Blackace
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The Stealth Fox said:
Duncan is getting "up" there in years but Parker is whopping 25 going on 26? how is that old? And both Manu and TD are 30, 31 going on 31, and 32.. They both still have 3 to 5 years of this type of productivity.. and Parker has like 8 years.
The Stealth Fox
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ARE YOU KIDDING ME? WOW. I had no idea.Blackace said:
Ginobili... eh... whether you have 3 to 5 years at that age in you depends on your conditioning and so on, but yeah, I think I may be too quick to judge with respect to Ginobili.
Well, the great thing is, everything that the Spurs FO touches turns to gold, so I guess they'll be winning, and if they're not winning, they'll always be on the cusp of winning.
Absinthe (Permed)
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Duncan has at least three years left in him and maybe more. Ginobili and Parker are still young and they're going to be the core that the Spurs build around. Also, Udoka will take Bowen's place as their defensive stopper. But yes, they need to start drafting and developing big men.
BatiGOOOOOOL
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The Stealth Fox said:
Nah, he would already be in his 30s when TD retires. Better to have a couple of 20 year old guys that are bigger and with much more potential learning from the best in the game. Heck, Tiago is already playing better than Scola in his old team.
Absinthe (Permed)
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Blackace said:
He hasn't had the wear and tear Duncan has on his body though. Duncan's been playing injured for the past two years or so. Outside players almost always have longer careers. Although, Manu might have shaved a couple of years off of his career with all of the unneeded flopping he does.
The Stealth Fox
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Looking at the rosters right now and all the waiting draft picks...
It seems that the Rockets and the Spurs have good cores to build off of now.
Dallas is pretty screwed for the future, but not as screwed as phoenix. They still have that puerto rican steve nash.
It seems that the Rockets and the Spurs have good cores to build off of now.
Dallas is pretty screwed for the future, but not as screwed as phoenix. They still have that puerto rican steve nash.
The Stealth Fox
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BatiGOOOOOOL said:Nah, he would already be in his 30s when TD retires. Better to have a couple of 20 year old guys that are bigger and with much more potential learning from the best in the game. Heck, Tiago is already playing better than Scola in his old team.
Don't be a hater. All of those draft picks could end up flopping!
Scola has a good 8 years on him if he conditions himself well. He's probably the most versatile PF the Rockets have had in 10 years... but that isn't saying much. :lol
I still don't get the move to give up Scola for garbage. You guys should have let him play on your team for 8 years behind Duncan, win a few championships, waive him if you think he's over the hill, then just sign some new players. Is that so hard?
But I guess the Spurs FO loves the Rockets. Scola has way more use here than over there.
Hey, at least you have V-Span :lol
Absinthe (Permed)
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The difference is that Dallas is owned by Mark Cuban and he isn't afraid to spend money. Steve Kerr and company seem to be petrified to do so.
Green Shinobi
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The Lakers still have years of relevancy.
Kobe is 29, Odom 28, Gasol 27, Farmar 21 and Bynum 20. They'll be able to go over the cap to re-sign all of these players. Depends on whether Jerry Buss wants to pay luxury tax to keep the team in contention.
Ariza is 22. They don't have his Bird Rights, but they could re-sign him for part of the exception.
Kobe is 29, Odom 28, Gasol 27, Farmar 21 and Bynum 20. They'll be able to go over the cap to re-sign all of these players. Depends on whether Jerry Buss wants to pay luxury tax to keep the team in contention.
Ariza is 22. They don't have his Bird Rights, but they could re-sign him for part of the exception.
Absinthe (Permed)
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Blackace said:
Jamison is a fantastic player that didn't fit in on that team. Walker is shit. Keep in mind that they also overpaid for Keith Van Horn.
Holy shit San Antonio is old. Horry, Kurt Thomas, Stoudamire, Finley, Bowen. Even Oberto is 32.
BatiGOOOOOOL
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The Stealth Fox said:
Hahaha. I like Scola. I would've loved to see him as a Spur, but I'm not going to question Pop and Buford's masterminds after all they have accomplished.
There's something else about the Scola saga that we don't know, because apparently money was never a problem, as the Spurs were ready last season to give him a very similar contract to what Houston did, but the buyout prevented it. Who knows what triggered the decision to trade him.
Absinthe (Permed)
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Who is this Ian Mahinmi that the Spurs have? It seems like he gets almost no playing time. It looks like he'd at least split minutes with Oberto.
The Stealth Fox
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BatiGOOOOOOL said:
Scola's probably tied for second-favorite on my player rankings for the Rockets.
Yao is number one, and he's tied with T-mac for two (I know you'd kill me for this but T-Mac has so much bad luck on his side that I can't help but feel sorry for him sometimes because he is a great player, even though he is mentally weak).
Scola's rebounding is amazing and his defense is tough. He also has a nose for the ball and is a superb passer.
He has exceeded all my expectations. I think he could be an all-star. My only gripe with him is that he's so skilled with the ball that he tries overtly difficult scoop layup shots, although they're amazing when they go in. His ball control is amazing.
Absinthe said:
Didn't the Spurs sign him after they gave up Scola and let V-Span go overseas?
BatiGOOOOOOL
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He is in the D-League with the Toros.Absinthe said:
The Stealth Fox
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That's the Spurs D-League affiliate, right?BatiGOOOOOOL said:
Edit: About the whole Scola deal, I heard his agent was being a penis or something.
BatiGOOOOOOL
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Yes, the Toros are owned by the Spurs. Mahinmi is actually the 2006(I think) draft pick.
This is what the Spurs have in store to help Tim next season...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQE52KLkN_0
Not bad.
This is what the Spurs have in store to help Tim next season...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQE52KLkN_0
Not bad.
Jamesfrom818
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I had a feeling the Lakers were going to drop that game. Oh well. I had a good night of ABA action. Lets get Tropical!
Absinthe (Permed)
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Blackace said:
Maybe when he played for Dallas, but this guy is averaging 21 and 10 this year.
Absinthe (Permed)
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Blackace said:
He's been playing with Butler nearly the whole year. And Arenas for a little of it.
Absinthe (Permed)
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Blackace said:
I'm not going to argue. The guy has averaged nearly a 20/10 double double his whole career and has played on several teams. He may not be an all star, but when he's a free agent teams will jump after him.
Absinthe (Permed)
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That's a pretty easy schedule since they don't have a lot of back to back games and because they play a lot of them at home. Sacramento, etc. are definite wins.
Herpes Reasons
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i think the lakers need 60 wins to remain 1st in the west. that's 19 of the remaining 23.Cloudy said:
i just want the lakers to have home court for at least for the first 2 rounds of the playoffs.
Herpes Reasons
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the last two years, i say other wise. a #1 seed in the west gives them a huge confidence boost.Cloudy said:
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