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Official Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater Thread
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NotMSRP said:
It's not BS. It's simply a decision, you don't have to like it but you're not the one making the game either. Going dual layer or adding another disc will increase the cost of producing the game. Would it really be worth it for a few gags and an extra cutscene? Since we don't know the contents of what was removed and Kojima has shown exceptional foresight in overall polish in his games, I'm inclined to believe it's not worth it. Plus if it means that something that's not completely mindblowing is removed just so I don't have to switch discs in the middle of a game, that's awesome.
MGS3 is so packed with goodies and stuff that I doubt any one player will ever see -everything- in the game. It's also so varied that just about everyone has a different experience with the game using different weapons and tactics and finding different secrets and triggering different optional scenes and stuff. If he didn't say anything was removed, we wouldn't even for a moment wonder. So it's not an excuse, it's just a game design decision.
ThirstyFly
Member
Here's another thing I haven't seen mentioned in the thread already.
Just before the last boss, when
there's a way to get
.
I'm not sure what the method I did was, but I saw it when I first entered the 2nd area and I believe I had just
. The next time I went into CURE it was back to normal.
Just before the last boss, when
you're walking around with EVA
her in her bra and panties only in the CURE screen
I'm not sure what the method I did was, but I saw it when I first entered the 2nd area and I believe I had just
fed her something she liked, so she may have also had full stamina
ToyMachine228
Member
OK, so when you load your game from the cell...And you play some totally different game...A hack n' slash with two swords...What the heck is that?
now this is something funny...
i saw a guy post on another board saying that he forgot to heal snake before save & quit during The Fear fight. After he came back , he found that that thing cannot be removed anymore and he ended up with finishing the game like that... :lol :lol :lol
i saw a guy post on another board saying that he forgot to heal snake before save & quit during The Fear fight. After he came back , he found that that thing cannot be removed anymore and he ended up with finishing the game like that... :lol :lol :lol
ThirstyFly
Member
:lol
I got one right in the top of my head. I should have tried to leave it in. That would have been great for the serious cutscenes.
SolidSnakex
Member
lunlunqq said:now this is something funny...
i saw a guy post on another board saying that he forgot to heal snake before save & quit during The Fear fight. After he came back , he found that that thing cannot be removed anymore and he ended up with finishing the game like that... :lol :lol :lol
Speaking of that. Did anyone actually leave bullets in Snake's body long enough for them to cause scars?
duckroll said:It's not BS. It's simply a decision, you don't have to like it but you're not the one making the game either. Going dual layer or adding another disc will increase the cost of producing the game. Would it really be worth it for a few gags and an extra cutscene? Since we don't know the contents of what was removed and Kojima has shown exceptional foresight in overall polish in his games, I'm inclined to believe it's not worth it. Plus if it means that something that's not completely mindblowing is removed just so I don't have to switch discs in the middle of a game, that's awesome.
MGS3 is so packed with goodies and stuff that I doubt any one player will ever see -everything- in the game. It's also so varied that just about everyone has a different experience with the game using different weapons and tactics and finding different secrets and triggering different optional scenes and stuff. If he didn't say anything was removed, we wouldn't even for a moment wonder. So it's not an excuse, it's just a game design decision.
I'm well aware of these design decisions. But simply saying space is an issue is BS in this day in age. There are techniques or methods to overcome space issues: one is the obvious increase in disc count and another way is to use the harddrive where you have the extra, optional materials in compress form and uncompressed on the harddrive. There are possibily other methods to overcome "space limitations" on DVDs. Each method will have drawbacks but will also have advantages.
The gags and goodies from Kojima are worth it. There are numerous people who enjoy such stuff and want more. Take a look at this thread, again, where we're all excited about little quirks in the game. Read the interview/Q&A again. The extras obviously provides an extra experience to the gamers. With MGS3 being a 6 million unit seller worldwide, they can afford an extra disc. If they're really stingy, they can release the extras on CDROM discs that installs into the harddrive and issue only a few thousands to those who wants them instead of every single copy.
You, and everybody else, need to realize and respect that one's personal preference should be not the sole preference forced upon everyone else. Some prefer contents over convenience while others prefer convenience over contents. The harddrive method I mention above took this into consideration and can meet both groups of gamers.
Your doubt is over. There will be at least one player who will see all or mostly all there is to it. Such people would be utter diehard MGS players and FAQ writers.
Europe, and I assume Japan too, will have extra contents. He's going to have to go to dual layer or double discs.
Again, the disc full excuse is BS. There's no soft or hard way to defend this excuse.
SolidSnakex
Member
I don't thin gaurds have ever crawled in after you in the series. They'll usually throw a grenade in if they notice you crawling into a vent or a small space.
radios shipping overview
Member
I'll have to try that. The fact thatThirstyFly said:
her transparent CURE model has nipples
ToyMachine228
Member
Nevermind...Another retard moment straight from ToyMachine228
SolidSnakex
Member
ToyMachine228 said:
Are you sure it's not in your backpack?
CrichtonKicks
Member
SolidSnakex said:
Playing on hard last night in the crawlspace under the provisions shack at the first Heliport (just before the first boss fight) I had two guards fully crawl under the shack and come at me.
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
Yeah, strafing is old news. L1 actually has somewhat of a dual function now. When there's noone around it makes you strafe, but if you're close to someone, it locks on to him.
Crazymoogle
Member
ThirstyFly said:
Actually,
no requirements. Just get to the second area with EVA and check the CURE screen. For the second area, she is in "reward" mode.
I ended up stopping my game and turning it off for awhile after the whole
fight and before I
you guys think I should go back and play it so that I play that whole end segment as one? everyone keeps telling me how awesome they thought the ending was, the last 3 hours... I'm wondering if maybe I should go ahead and play through it again, not stopping after that fight, so that I get the full gravity of the ending.
volgin
go into the woods and have to run through/from all those soldiers.
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
suikodan
Member
Ok, I have a question regarding the fight against The Boss, I am trying to drain her Stamina bar.
Can anyone spare me some tips please?
Can something be done when she comes close to you to do CQC? I try holding or pressing O many times but it does nothing. Sometimes I can break her CQC but honestly, I don't know how I did.
Can anyone spare me some tips please?
Yeah, you have to time it just right, but right after she grabs your arm, you'll notice a really brief pause in the action. If you tap your CQC button right away, you can counter it and get to the side of her so you can knock her down and pop her with your tranqs. It's hard to do, but it is possible. I got to the point in normal mode where I didn't even worry about getting shot, because as long as you're moving towards her, she'll only hit you a fraction of the time. So after she gets up, just keep running back at her so you don't run out of time, too.
suikodan
Member
whytemyke said:
Thanks
I kept trying to tap CQC and I was able to repel her attacks. Then I punched her, she fell and I shot two tranquilizer bullets. When she was shooting at me, I zig-zagged toward her and punched her again. At the time the song started, she was already at 3/4.
I need to replay that game.
Lucky Forward
Member
Any repercussions for saving when the Save Chick (whatever her name is) advises against it?
I had last saved after I'd entered the level with "The End" boss battle. When I re-loaded, I went off to get the sniper rifle, and then spent a few minutes equipping the right weapons and equipment for the battle. I decided to save after this, so I would be properly set up to begin the battle if I had to re-load.
Save Chick advised against this for some reason (Are your really sure you want to save, Snake?), but since I have multiple saves, I went ahead and did it anyway. Then, out of curiousity, I re-loaded that save and found that I didn't have the sniper rifle anymore, and my chosen equipment was not equipped. So I got the rifle again, geared up...lo and behold, I beat The End on that try. I entered the next area and saved again.
If I continue playing from that save, will there be any problems because I had earlier saved when she advised against it?
I had last saved after I'd entered the level with "The End" boss battle. When I re-loaded, I went off to get the sniper rifle, and then spent a few minutes equipping the right weapons and equipment for the battle. I decided to save after this, so I would be properly set up to begin the battle if I had to re-load.
Save Chick advised against this for some reason (Are your really sure you want to save, Snake?), but since I have multiple saves, I went ahead and did it anyway. Then, out of curiousity, I re-loaded that save and found that I didn't have the sniper rifle anymore, and my chosen equipment was not equipped. So I got the rifle again, geared up...lo and behold, I beat The End on that try. I entered the next area and saved again.
If I continue playing from that save, will there be any problems because I had earlier saved when she advised against it?
ThirstyFly
Member
The game only saves your progress for when you first enter the area or trigger a cutscene. So every time you enter the next "room", I suggest you save. If you change your weapon setup or camo first, it won't be saved - so if you know what you'll need before you enter a room, do that first.
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
Fought Fury last night - and man it was tough as nails on Hard level 
. I died so many times I lost the count, but eventually, much like with other bosses, finding the right strategy and the best position meant a lot to get a leg up on him. The fight itself is so damn awesome - the fire effects, the lighting in that room, and the crazy shit that happens after you kill him is just great.
Oh and,
(not joking btw, that's a confirmed easter egg)
. I died so many times I lost the count, but eventually, much like with other bosses, finding the right strategy and the best position meant a lot to get a leg up on him. The fight itself is so damn awesome - the fire effects, the lighting in that room, and the crazy shit that happens after you kill him is just great.Oh and,
After getting to Grozniy Grad, I called Eva on the radio, and got a clear explanation that 'Raidenovich' is gay :lol
I had the same concern during The End battle. I saved at the beginning of the fight, and went to sleep. Next day, I continued and beat him. I think the only 'repercussion' is that if you save there, and don't play a game for one week, when you come back, The End will be dead, and you won't have to fight him at all!
(not joking btw, that's a confirmed easter egg)Lucky Forward
Member
Thanks, part of the reason I asked about repercussions was way back when I played MGS,
I didn't want an errant save to somehow affect my overall game in MGS3.
during the torture scene I didn't hit the button fast enough to resist, so I gave in. I had no idea at the time it meant Meryl would die and I would get a different ending.
I didn't want an errant save to somehow affect my overall game in MGS3.
Another day. Another discovery. Do you remember that helicopter parked behind the military base prior to
? Destroy it with the TNT and you won't find
Damn I LOVE this game.
the confrontation with Ocelot
the heli scouting the second section of the mountains area. You'll get a couple of those flying platfoms instead. BTW, I managed to destroy every helicopter I encountered and those that came after them. The ones above Grozniy Grad included. Cool thing is you can also destroy the helicopters sniping at the pilot or the co-pilot through the cockpit. If you get the former, the heli gets distroyed immediately on air. Get the latter and it crashes to the ground.
evil solrac v3.0
Member
Liono said:
cant kill the guy. start over.
evil solrac v3.0
Member
Liono said:
you need his uniform. well, if you get his uniform then i suppose it's no big deal. did you get the uniform?
evil solrac v3.0
Member
no biggie then. carry on.