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Official MLB Thread - 2006 Season

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I'd say damn, but patient AL hitting and Pedro's mistake...lol.

That's TWICE Keith Stupidnandez (yes, created that myself) has said "GOOD PIECE OF HITTING BY ____."

Actually, Pedro looks a lil' flat.
 
F**k this I'm not watching this game, Mets are making fool of themselves for the second night in a row. Lasting cost the Mets two runs again.
 
Qwerty710710 said:
F**k this I'm not watching this game, Mets are making fool of themselves for the second night in a row. Lasting cost the Mets two runs again.
You quit now don't come bandwagoning when Mets win the game. The clique never gives up on its own.

Pedro with the high heat, the Boston faithful with the overreact. :lol
 
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A-GON IS A BEAST (sort of)
 
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WHO'S YOUR DADDY?

Qwerty710710 said:
OMG Mets look like frauds what is going on, the haven't played this shitty all year. Come on Mets snap out of it please.

They're up against some real AL power, that's what's going on.
 
Seriously, the Red Sox will maybe lose a game to the White Sox next weekend, but otherwise this streak isn't ending anytime soon.
 
Dr. Strangelove said:
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WHO'S YOUR DADDY?



They're up against some real AL power, that's what's going on.

Mets are going to have to make some kind of improvments, even though Red Sox are hot. There is no excuse Mets are playing like crap, I'm bumed out. The whole NL is like this, NL is going to get rocked in the all star game.
 
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"THESE GODAMN METS ARE PLAYING LIKE SHEEEET!"
 
This is not good this series this proving to me, that Mets aren't any better than anyone in the NL. Mets have to play much better ball if there World Series contender.
 
I don't think the "mets are not playing like the mets." The Mets simply are playing THE hottest AL team in the game. And I say AL only because that adds extra oomph, they are hotter than anyone in the NL as well.

LOL:
nomaas.org said:
Comments made by John Sterling and Suzyn Waldman during Monday night's game:

Sterling: "Cairo knows how to handle the bat."

Miguel Cairo on the season: .230 BA / .294 OBP / .300 SLG / .594 OPS

Perhaps by saying that Cairo "knows how to handle the bat," Sterling meant that Miguel knows how to pick a bat up off the ground and hold it in his hands?

Waldman: "Aaron Small cleared waivers and was outrighted to Columbus. I'm surprised he wasn't picked up by someone."

Apparently, the market for 8.46 ERA pitchers isn't as hot as it once was.

Yankee nation is filled with moronic sentimental bullshit "damn the computers" rejects. No, "makes things happen" is not a ****ing statistic you douche. Stop saying that someone like Coco Crisp makes things happen and stop pretending Melky knows what he's doing because his OPS is like .640.

I have never seen such a backlash against statistics before in favor of sentimentality and personal bullshit like I have in baseball. Could you imagine if the weather was like this?

"It's going to be 80 degrees today."
"No, Bob, it's going to be 40. Who gives what the computer tells you? The computer doesn't predict with its HEART. It's gonna be 40. I saw it happen before and I know these things."
 
Qwerty710710 said:
This is not good this series this proving to me, that Mets aren't any better than anyone in the NL. Mets have to play much better ball if there World Series contender.

Don't panick man. They really haven't gone into a slump all season,this could be the beginning of one is all. Or is Boston just that good? I think its a little of both.
But one thing is for sure,the Mets need another legit starter,they have been relying too much on Pedro and Glavine all season. We've been able to keep that problem under control but were going to be looking awfully bad come October when we face the elite teams.
 
Y2Kevbug11 said:
LOL Pedro's fastball is like 91, 88, 86...

Yeah that's gonna fool Manny Ramirez.

Pedro has been topping off at 91-92 for the past two seasons, where have you been? He's usually around 88 most nights. He didn't have his head in this game from the start. If he made the throw to second to start the double play we would have been out of the inning with no runs allowed.
 
LJ11 said:
Pedro has been topping off at 91-92 for the past two seasons, where have you been? He's usually around 88 most nights. He didn't have his head in this game from the start. If he made the throw to second to start the double play we would have been out of the inning with no runs allowed.

I've watched a few starts and it usually SITS at 91 at least, it usually doesn't TOP there. I've seen a few starts where he doesn't break 90, but he has to be particularly creative in those starts.

And something tells me that doesn't work against the Sox. I think the problem is more deep seated than the first inning jitters anyway.
 
Pedro uses his head to win nowdays. But this homecoming has left him drinking the doctored punch today. The Mets playing like shit doesn't help either.

Let's just try and salvage tomorrow's game and be up for the Yankees come the weekend.
 
Y2Kevbug11 said:
I've watched a few starts and it usually SITS at 91 at least, it usually doesn't TOP there. I've seen a few starts where he doesn't break 90, but he has to be particularly creative in those starts.

And something tells me that doesn't work against the Sox. I think the problem is more deep seated than the first inning jitters anyway.

I've watched every Met game this season, every game, and the highest I've seen the gun reach is 94. Most games he tops out at 90-91, ask any Met fan and they will say the same. Pedro doesn't blow batters away with his velocity as he did in the past. Pedro uses off-speed pitches to set up his fastball. He's a different pitcher now. If you watched when he pitched against the Yankees, he may have hit 90 a handful of time but his off-speed stuff was on target all day.
 
vatstep said:
Seriously, the Red Sox will maybe lose a game to the White Sox next weekend, but otherwise this streak isn't ending anytime soon.

Maybe? We've won 17 of 21 against teams like the Tigers, Cardinals, Rangers, and Reds.
Your streak has come against Atlanta, Washington, and Philly before currently the Mets.

We're every bit as hot as the Red Sox, only we've been playing better teams. But I have tickets behind home plate for next Saturday's game against the Red Sox, so I wouldn't mind that being the game we break your streak :)

Oh, and we're an MLB best 29-11 at home.
 
LJ11 said:
I've watched every Met game this season, every game, and the highest I've seen the gun reach is 94. Most games he tops out at 90-91, ask any Met fan and they will say the same. Pedro doesn't blow batters away with his velocity as he did in the past. Pedro uses off-speed pitches to set up his fastball. He's a different pitcher now. If you watched when he pitched against the Yankees, he may have hit 90 a handful of time but his off-speed stuff was on target all day.
..then you missed the Nationals game where he hit 95 and 96... three times.
 
The first thing I hear when I get home from my baseball game tonight...

Dad: The Mets are getting rocked again. It's 8-0.

****ing shit.

And A-Rod hit a game-winning home run. What is going on?

BTW, you Astros fans might like to know that I played at Craig Biggio Field tonight. He must've just donated some money to his old high school, because I don't remember it being called that when I played there in high school.
 
The Frankman said:
..then you missed the Nationals game where he hit 95 and 96... three times.

I don't recall him ever hitting that high on a consistent basis. You're telling me he hit 94+ 6 times in that game? Or are you saying he was 95-96 on 3 seperate occasions? I could buy the later but I would have definitely remembered him hitting the gun at 94+ that many times.
 
Mets playing shitty against the hottest team in baseball. Lopsided scores result. Not exactly a shocker.

And Pedro is HURT. Bank on it.

Cliffy can't come back soon enough.

Ugh.
 
Hahaha a fan ran to second base and was tackled by security in Pittsburgh.

Meanwhile Jenks gets the save and we win again :D
 
LJ11 said:
I don't recall him ever hitting that high on a consistent basis. You're telling me he hit 94+ 6 times in that game? Or are you saying he was 95-96 on 3 seperate occasions? I could buy the later but I would have definitely remembered him hitting the gun at 94+ that many times.
In the time where he was facing Guillen (or was it Soriano) he hit 94+ in the at-bat. I definitely remember one 96. Later on the radio I heard Eddie say he hit it on 2 other occasions "when he needed to".
 
The Frankman said:
In the time where he was facing Guillen (or was it Soriano) he hit 94+ in the at-bat. I definitely remember one 96. Later on the radio I heard Eddie say he hit it on 2 other occasions "when he needed to".

Now that you mention it I do remember him hitting the gun pretty high during that sequence to Guillen. Actually, his best velocity all season was probably during that game. Good catch.

Pedro was lights out in April and May, but June has been a month to forget. I hope there is nothing physically wrong with him. I'll throw out tonight's performance as being more mental/emotional than physical. Hopefully Glavine can stop the bleeding tomorrow.
 
These games are killing me after I declared the whole DeGeneration Mets crap. I worked all night shopping the image and I get this effort from the Mets. We need a good ol' fashioned blowout tomorrow against the Sawx. Or a Glavine no-no.
 
Pedro hurt his hip in Florida and hasn't been the same since. The sooner management acknowledges this the better off the team will be. This playing through the pain stuff will prove disastrous.
 
Looks like Lilly has finally realized its a contract year and he has been lights out since the Detroit game. Now if they could only get the #4 and #5 starters going.
 
Mifune said:
Pedro hurt his hip in Florida and hasn't been the same since. The sooner management acknowledges this the better off the team will be. This playing through the pain stuff will prove disastrous.

I know this will sound stupid, but I hope its a minor hip injury. If it's an injury then his past few outings can be excused. But if it's not, well we're going to be screwed. I'm pretty sure the Mets will go to a 6 man rotation come August and Semptember, so Pedro and Glavine will get extra rest.
 
All I can say is I'm glad the rest of our division sucks so badly. We can take these losses and still not lose any ground.
 
Oh I hope it's a minor thing, too. Thing is, it probably WAS a minor injury that has lingered around and gotten worse because he's played through it. If there's one thing that really annoys and disturbs me about the Mets, it's their unwillingness to acknowledge injuries. The word is practically taboo to Mets management.

Cliff Floyd sprained his ankle weeks back. Anyone with eyes could see it was a fairly serious injury. So do we send him to the DL immediately and let him recover? No, we list him as day to day (meanwhile, Cliff can barely walk) and then FINALLY D-list him after the ankle doesn't miraculously heal within a few days. Sure, the delay didn't cost the team anything, but it's a troubling trend. Beltran was dealt with similarly earlier in the season. And I fear the same thing is happening with Pedro, except he's playing through it...to the tune of 6 earned runs in 3 innings. Heath Bell could give us that in a spot start.

And in case I wasn't clear...THE SKY IS FALLING!!!! AAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGHHHHHHH!!
 
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All I can say is I'm pissed off our division turned into the best in baseball at this point. We keep winning and we still don't make up any ground.

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Mifune said:
Oh I hope it's a minor thing, too. Thing is, it probably WAS a minor injury that has lingered around and gotten worse because he's played through it. If there's one thing that really annoys and disturbs me about the Mets, it's their unwillingness to acknowledge injuries. The word is practically taboo to Mets management.

Cliff Floyd sprained his ankle weeks back. Anyone with eyes could see it was a fairly serious injury. So do we send him to the DL immediately and let him recover? No, we list him as day to day (meanwhile, Cliff can barely walk) and then FINALLY D-list him after the ankle doesn't miraculously heal within a few days. Sure, the delay didn't cost the team anything, but it's a troubling trend. Beltran was dealt with similarly earlier in the season. And I fear the same thing is happening with Pedro, except he's playing through it...to the tune of 6 earned runs in 3 innings. Heath Bell could give us that in a spot start.

And in case I wasn't clear...THE SKY IS FALLING!!!! AAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGHHHHHHH!!

You make some very good points. It's always hush-hush with the Mets and injuries. The last few starts should have sent a clear message to the training staff about Pedro's hip. I know when Omar took over he got rid of the old staff because of the way they dealt with past injuries especially Reyes'. I'm keeping my fingers crossed and hoping that everything is going to be okay with Pedro.
 
I think we didn't give it much concern when this happened to Zambrano(because honestly the guy is not a real man's pitcher anyways.) But when we see the same pattern going on with Pedro now,someone needs to take some responsibility. That is *if* Pedro is suffering through more than just minor aches and pains. Every pitcher hits a slump during the season so it could be nothing more than that. And Pedro did not have his game face on today either. You gyuys saw it-he was too happy waving to the crowd being Mr. Nice Guy instead of Mr. Lights out. Ofcourse the redSox are a great team,but Pedro shouldn't be lit up like that though. But again-yeah maybe he is suffering from ongoing legit injury? But then I hate to make excuses. We just got our tails kicked tonight more than anything. We need to suck it up and come out playing text book player for player blutch hitting baseball,pitch well, and above all-stop making all these sloppy mistakes on the field.
 
I'm concered with Pedro he hasn't been the same as April and May. Mets overall were sloppy and flat, to me this was a test to see if Mets were one of the elite teams in the Majors but unfortanly they failed. Alot of sox fans are calling them overrated, but its only there opion. I think Glavine and Mets offense needs to step tommrow, and take tommrow game.
 
R_GILL said:
God damn, Lilly has a sore shoulder. Why are all of our starters going down.

eh, his shoulder was sore before this game as well.. he expects to be okay, i'm pretty sure he will be. Anyway, I always look forward to the possibility of McGowan coming up to start. He seems like he might be ready.
 
Dez said:
eh, his shoulder was sore before this game as well.. he expects to be okay, i'm pretty sure he will be. Anyway, I always look forward to the possibility of McGowan coming up to start. He seems like he might be ready.

I always fear shoulder injuries, we need to be cautious with the situation last thing we need is to lose Lilly for an extended period of time.

McGowan, I just don't know about him. His first few starts back in AAA he pitched well, than he got rocked than he had a few more good starts and than he got rocked on Monday. He pitched the first 4 innings effortlessly, than he got in a jam in the fifth and loss all composure and gave up a grand slam. I don't think he is mentally ready, the minute he gets in a tough situation I don't have faith that he will get out of it.
 
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