Official NFL off-season/Draft thread: party like its 1980! (niners #1 pick time!)
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How can you possibly say that Vick won't deliver? In two years as a starter, he has 2 playoff wins. In the year between, when he was hurt, the Falcons were one of the worst teams in the league.
Oh, but sure, it could just be that Jim Mora Jr is one of the best coaches in the league. Of course, don't know how I overlooked that obvious fact.
Oh, but sure, it could just be that Jim Mora Jr is one of the best coaches in the league. Of course, don't know how I overlooked that obvious fact.
Word has it the WR from Carolina, Muhommed, will be getting released. Caroline wants to resign him. Philly is supposed to be interested in him as a replacement for Freddy "Bigfuckingmouth" Mitchell. Word is regardless of who they get to replace him Freddy is gone from Phillytown. Also word has it Bledsoe is already in as the starting QB of the Cowboys.
ShadowRed said:
Just wasn't meant to be. He wanted too much for being known as a possession receiver. I understand that he had the best year of his career, but 5 years, $25 million + $10 million bonus was, in the end, just too much. Hopefully Troy Williamson or Mike Williams will be on the board at #14 for Carolina to take.
Good luck Moose, wherever you might end up. Hopefully he gets that chamionship ring that he came oh so close to getting with us
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/football/nfl/02/16/bc.fbn.bruschihospitali.ap/index.html
Local newscasters are saying he ruptured a blood vessel in his head and it's probably from the probowl. The guy gets into the game for the first time and ends up in the hospital... three days later.
Local newscasters are saying he ruptured a blood vessel in his head and it's probably from the probowl. The guy gets into the game for the first time and ends up in the hospital... three days later.
Wellington
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ShadowRed said:
Nooooooo! My favorite receiver this passed season CAN'T end up on my most hated team! I dunno how they'd be able to afford him what with their current roster, though.
The Giants, on the other hand.... Should go ahead and sign him and Burress!!!!!!!!!!!
Brees was given the Franchise tag by San Diego, by the way.
Does the curse include mild strokes?
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/3403934
It's hard to tell how serious it is. He's already talking and walking normal and gets released Friday, but something about "mild stroke" doesn't sound very good...
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/3403934
It's hard to tell how serious it is. He's already talking and walking normal and gets released Friday, but something about "mild stroke" doesn't sound very good...
Wellington
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:lol :lol :lol!!! Bucs sign Akili Smith! :lol! I am dying here!
http://www.nfl.com/teams/story/TB/8206989
:lol!
In other NFL related news John Abraham was named the Jets franchise player, even more interseting...
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Fucking Seahawks fucking resigned Walter Jones. I wanted him on my team. Fuck you Seattle.
http://www.nfl.com/teams/story/TB/8206989
:lol!
In other NFL related news John Abraham was named the Jets franchise player, even more interseting...
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Fucking Seahawks fucking resigned Walter Jones. I wanted him on my team. Fuck you Seattle.
Future Trunks
lemme tell you something son, this guy is SO FARKING HUGE HE'LL FLEX AND DESTROY THE SUN no shit
Wellington said:
Training camp filler. He'll be cut.
Jesus christ, how are the Titans so consistantly high above the salary cap?
According to ESPN, they plan to cut Mason, Rolle, and Kevin Carter. Also expected gone are their Kicker (Nedney), an offensive tackle, and fullback.
They're trying to restructure the deals of McNair and others, which means they could get cut too if no agreement can be reached.
As for the Seahawks signing Walter Jones-I'm surprised. Hadn't heard this, but they've used their franchise tag on him for the past few years. This could mean Shaun Alexander isn't as free an agent as he may have hoped to be.
According to ESPN, they plan to cut Mason, Rolle, and Kevin Carter. Also expected gone are their Kicker (Nedney), an offensive tackle, and fullback.
They're trying to restructure the deals of McNair and others, which means they could get cut too if no agreement can be reached.
As for the Seahawks signing Walter Jones-I'm surprised. Hadn't heard this, but they've used their franchise tag on him for the past few years. This could mean Shaun Alexander isn't as free an agent as he may have hoped to be.
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Got to feel bad for Akili Smith, the guy just doesn't seem to have what it takes but at least he keeps trying. I don't know why Tampa would agree to send him to NFL Europe though when they have Chris Simms on the roster, Gruden's first choice to replace Brad Johnson last season.
Too bad about Walter Jones, I would've liked to see him on the Giants (though I figured he would have to be given a king's ransom to play for Coughlin). But I really don't think the Giants O-line is in such bad shape. Eli was sacked 13 times in 7 games compared to 40! for Warner in 9 games. The Giants should try and bring in a mid-level pass-blocking LT and then move Luke Petitgout to RT and David Dheil back to guard. That should give them a decent unit with some depth.
Too bad about Walter Jones, I would've liked to see him on the Giants (though I figured he would have to be given a king's ransom to play for Coughlin). But I really don't think the Giants O-line is in such bad shape. Eli was sacked 13 times in 7 games compared to 40! for Warner in 9 games. The Giants should try and bring in a mid-level pass-blocking LT and then move Luke Petitgout to RT and David Dheil back to guard. That should give them a decent unit with some depth.
:lol :lol :lol
They should just cut their losses now(literally. cut? get it? it's a pun) and cut McInjured.
also, looks like the redskins are going to release Coles. i always thought he was a bit of a bitch wr....but having that said, i'd gladly take him here in chitown. as long as we don't sign fucking warner....
Wellington
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Coles and Mason as free agent receivers... C'mon Giants...
Hell, sign Rolle!
Hell, sign Rolle!
soulja224466
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i saw a post on the rams board saying hasselbeck has agreed to a long term deal. Looks like shaun alexander will be franchised.
btw, why is FMT banned?
btw, why is FMT banned?
Wellington
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Because I lost a bet to him and now I have to use this avatar for a week!
Kidding. Because he flamed the entire ESPN line of sports games.
Kidding. Because he flamed the entire ESPN line of sports games.
Hitler Stole My Potato
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God bless the Seahawks. Hasselbeck signed. Happy day!
Now that Alexander's tagged, they need to shop him around for draft picks and/or players.
Now that Alexander's tagged, they need to shop him around for draft picks and/or players.
Wellington
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Green Bay designated tight end Bubba Franks as their franchise player.
The Colts signed right tackle Ryan Diem to a seven-year contract.
Suck it down FMT! If I can't have Walter Jones, you can't have Ryan Diem!
The Colts signed right tackle Ryan Diem to a seven-year contract.
Suck it down FMT! If I can't have Walter Jones, you can't have Ryan Diem!soulja224466
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Eminem said:
it is truely the end of an era
FrenchMovieTheme
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diem
Wellington
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Archaix said:
In other news Todd Heap has been successfully cloned!
Blackace
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Hitler Stole My Potato said:
No Way Alexander is a work horse... 1 yard shy of the NFL crown! I was so happy when we drafted one of the few college I followed outside of the Huskies... He will be a stud for his whole career...
alejob said:
Right, despite having no wideouts (Keyshawn?), an undermanned D-line (especially if you switch to a 3-4), undersized linebackers (Dat Nguyen?), a slow overrated QB (let's see, Bledsoe's been cut twice in the past 4 years, and neither time because of salary issues ...), mediocre special teams, and the most overrated coach of all time (what you done without your boy Belichick, Parcells?) you will all nead to ph34r the Cowboys next year! :lol
Wellington
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Wow, lot's of news today:
Chiefs release DE Vonnie Holliday.
Chargers release Tim Dwight.
Adam Vinatieri is franchised by the Pats.
Chiefs release DE Vonnie Holliday.
Chargers release Tim Dwight.
Adam Vinatieri is franchised by the Pats.
No I dont, I just like giving cowboys fans crap for the horrible decisions they make in the front office.
The giants have a ton of holes, a bunch of past their prime veterans in key positions and basically a rookie qb. They are going nowhere. The Redskins are the only threat if they do something at qb and fix their offensive line. The other issue is that to me Gibbs doesnt seem very dedicated to football, I dont know if he will adapt his offense. That saftey they have is going to be a dominating force for years if they can keep him from self-destructing. This isnt like a Roy Williams type deal where everyone pretends he is good because he can hit, Taylor can play.Wellington
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Dammit didn't get to finish my post before my coworker hit submit and then closed the window.
Niners franchise Peterson.
Jags franchise Donovan Darius.
Raiders franchise Charles Woodson, re-sign Jerry Porter.
Plaxico Burress NOT franchised.
Giants release Omar Stoutmire (Good riddance!) and Terry Cousin. (COUSIN COUSIN! )
Niners franchise Peterson.
Jags franchise Donovan Darius.
Raiders franchise Charles Woodson, re-sign Jerry Porter.
Plaxico Burress NOT franchised.
Giants release Omar Stoutmire (Good riddance!) and Terry Cousin. (COUSIN COUSIN!
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Agent: Vikings trade Moss to Raiders
By SEAN JENSEN
Pioneer Press
The Vikings have agreed to trade Randy Moss to the Oakland Raiders for starting linebacker Napoleon Harris, the seventh overall pick in the upcoming draft and a 2005 late-round pick . Trades can be worked out although not announced until next month, and Moss' agent, Dante DiTrapano, told the Pioneer Press on Wednesday that the deal is done.
"Nothing is official until March 2," DiTrapano said. "But dont be surprised if Randy Moss is wearing the Silver and Black this upcoming season."
Vikings vice president of football operations Rob Brzezinski would only say, "We've had some discussions with them (the Raiders), but there is nothing to announce."
Despite repeated denials, the Vikings have been shopping Moss for months, and they found a willing suitor in Al Davis, a maverick owner who embraces controversial players.
"In speaking with Moss, although he has a lot of ties to Minnesota and did not particularly want to be traded, hes very excited with the possibility of playing for Al Davis and being a part of the Raider tradition," DiTrapano said. "The Raiders have vowed to use Randys talents the way they should be used, and thats to throw the ball vertically down the field.
"Randys desire to win a Super Bowl is enhanced with a move to a team like the Raiders, because the Minnesota Vikings seem to be in a constant rebuilding mode."
The Vikings will wind up with the seventh overall pick for the third time in the last four years. In 2002, they drafted left tackle Bryant McKinnie, a starter. Two years ago, they had the seventh pick but a botched trade with Baltimore resulted in them picking two spots later. Still, they landed the player
they coveted, defensive tackle Kevin Williams, who has emerged into a Pro Bowl player.
The Vikings have the 18th pick in this years draft.
With the departure of Moss, the Vikings' top receiver is third-year receiver Nate Burleson. But the Vikings are expected to bolster that group via the draft or free agency. With a weak free agent class headlined by Pittsburgh's Plaxico Burress, the Vikings options could increase with potential salary cap casualties such as Isaac Bruce, Muhsin Muhammad and Derrick Mason.
The NFL Draft in April also offers two promising players, Michigan's Braylon Edwards and Southern Cal's Mike Williams.
Harris was selected by the Raiders with the 23rd pick in the 2002 NFL Draft, and he has recorded 249 tackles, 2.5 sacks, three forced fumbles, and five passes defended over the past three seasons. He is 6-foot-2, 255 pounds, and he can play inside and outside.
The Raiders will assume Moss $7.25 million base salary for next season while the Vikings realize a cap savings of nearly $2 million. Four seasons remain on Moss eight-year $75 million contract.
Sean Jensen covers the Vikings and the NFL. He can be reached at sjensen@pioneerpress.com.
Agent: Vikings trade Moss to Raiders
By SEAN JENSEN
Pioneer Press
The Vikings have agreed to trade Randy Moss to the Oakland Raiders for starting linebacker Napoleon Harris, the seventh overall pick in the upcoming draft and a 2005 late-round pick . Trades can be worked out although not announced until next month, and Moss' agent, Dante DiTrapano, told the Pioneer Press on Wednesday that the deal is done.
"Nothing is official until March 2," DiTrapano said. "But dont be surprised if Randy Moss is wearing the Silver and Black this upcoming season."
Vikings vice president of football operations Rob Brzezinski would only say, "We've had some discussions with them (the Raiders), but there is nothing to announce."
Despite repeated denials, the Vikings have been shopping Moss for months, and they found a willing suitor in Al Davis, a maverick owner who embraces controversial players.
"In speaking with Moss, although he has a lot of ties to Minnesota and did not particularly want to be traded, hes very excited with the possibility of playing for Al Davis and being a part of the Raider tradition," DiTrapano said. "The Raiders have vowed to use Randys talents the way they should be used, and thats to throw the ball vertically down the field.
"Randys desire to win a Super Bowl is enhanced with a move to a team like the Raiders, because the Minnesota Vikings seem to be in a constant rebuilding mode."
The Vikings will wind up with the seventh overall pick for the third time in the last four years. In 2002, they drafted left tackle Bryant McKinnie, a starter. Two years ago, they had the seventh pick but a botched trade with Baltimore resulted in them picking two spots later. Still, they landed the player
they coveted, defensive tackle Kevin Williams, who has emerged into a Pro Bowl player.
The Vikings have the 18th pick in this years draft.
With the departure of Moss, the Vikings' top receiver is third-year receiver Nate Burleson. But the Vikings are expected to bolster that group via the draft or free agency. With a weak free agent class headlined by Pittsburgh's Plaxico Burress, the Vikings options could increase with potential salary cap casualties such as Isaac Bruce, Muhsin Muhammad and Derrick Mason.
The NFL Draft in April also offers two promising players, Michigan's Braylon Edwards and Southern Cal's Mike Williams.
Harris was selected by the Raiders with the 23rd pick in the 2002 NFL Draft, and he has recorded 249 tackles, 2.5 sacks, three forced fumbles, and five passes defended over the past three seasons. He is 6-foot-2, 255 pounds, and he can play inside and outside.
The Raiders will assume Moss $7.25 million base salary for next season while the Vikings realize a cap savings of nearly $2 million. Four seasons remain on Moss eight-year $75 million contract.
Sean Jensen covers the Vikings and the NFL. He can be reached at sjensen@pioneerpress.com.
Ninja Scooter
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saw that too, from another forum:
ESPN reporting as a done deal but can't be announced yet. Hopefully the Miami Herald is not involved.
Moss to Oakland for:
- Napoleon Harris
- #7 overall this year
- later #1 pick also included.
Raiders got ripped. Two no.1s (one of which is a top 10) and a good young LB that himself was a first round pick just a couple years ago. Damn. Randy Moss is good, but the Raiders could have just used that 7th pick to get Mike Williams or Braylon Edwards. They might not be as good as Moss, but the Raiders already have a nice young core of recievers.
ESPN reporting as a done deal but can't be announced yet. Hopefully the Miami Herald is not involved.
Moss to Oakland for:
- Napoleon Harris
- #7 overall this year
- later #1 pick also included.
Raiders got ripped. Two no.1s (one of which is a top 10) and a good young LB that himself was a first round pick just a couple years ago. Damn. Randy Moss is good, but the Raiders could have just used that 7th pick to get Mike Williams or Braylon Edwards. They might not be as good as Moss, but the Raiders already have a nice young core of recievers.
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