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effzee said:when????!!!???
yesterday. 4 years, $20 million, with an $8 million signing bonus IIRC.
effzee said:when????!!!???
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Agent: Vikings trade Moss to Raiders
By SEAN JENSEN
Pioneer Press
The Vikings have agreed to trade Randy Moss to the Oakland Raiders for starting linebacker Napoleon Harris, the seventh overall pick in the upcoming draft and a 2005 late-round pick . Trades can be worked out although not announced until next month, and Moss' agent, Dante DiTrapano, told the Pioneer Press on Wednesday that the deal is done.
"Nothing is official until March 2," DiTrapano said. "But dont be surprised if Randy Moss is wearing the Silver and Black this upcoming season."
Vikings vice president of football operations Rob Brzezinski would only say, "We've had some discussions with them (the Raiders), but there is nothing to announce."
Despite repeated denials, the Vikings have been shopping Moss for months, and they found a willing suitor in Al Davis, a maverick owner who embraces controversial players.
"In speaking with Moss, although he has a lot of ties to Minnesota and did not particularly want to be traded, hes very excited with the possibility of playing for Al Davis and being a part of the Raider tradition," DiTrapano said. "The Raiders have vowed to use Randys talents the way they should be used, and thats to throw the ball vertically down the field.
"Randys desire to win a Super Bowl is enhanced with a move to a team like the Raiders, because the Minnesota Vikings seem to be in a constant rebuilding mode."
The Vikings will wind up with the seventh overall pick for the third time in the last four years. In 2002, they drafted left tackle Bryant McKinnie, a starter. Two years ago, they had the seventh pick but a botched trade with Baltimore resulted in them picking two spots later. Still, they landed the player
they coveted, defensive tackle Kevin Williams, who has emerged into a Pro Bowl player.
The Vikings have the 18th pick in this years draft.
With the departure of Moss, the Vikings' top receiver is third-year receiver Nate Burleson. But the Vikings are expected to bolster that group via the draft or free agency. With a weak free agent class headlined by Pittsburgh's Plaxico Burress, the Vikings options could increase with potential salary cap casualties such as Isaac Bruce, Muhsin Muhammad and Derrick Mason.
The NFL Draft in April also offers two promising players, Michigan's Braylon Edwards and Southern Cal's Mike Williams.
Harris was selected by the Raiders with the 23rd pick in the 2002 NFL Draft, and he has recorded 249 tackles, 2.5 sacks, three forced fumbles, and five passes defended over the past three seasons. He is 6-foot-2, 255 pounds, and he can play inside and outside.
The Raiders will assume Moss $7.25 million base salary for next season while the Vikings realize a cap savings of nearly $2 million. Four seasons remain on Moss eight-year $75 million contract.
Sean Jensen covers the Vikings and the NFL. He can be reached at sjensen@pioneerpress.com.
Slo said:May every touchdown he scores shut down a vital organ!
Slo said:Well, the only way this is a good thing for the Vikes is if Randy wanted out, and would have been a malcontent all season. But that wasn't the case. :-\
One defensive starter isn't going to turn our horrendous defense around, we need much more help than that. For the last 10+ years that only thing that's let us win games is our explosive offense, and we just traded the explosive part away.Culpepper is a franchise QB, and we have good set of tailbacks, but we don't have a TE or a #1 receiver. Burleson is never going to be the guy. I can only hope that we hit the jackpot with that #7 pick.
Bowser said:I think Mike Williams will be the guy.
WasabiKing said:That's who I wanted to Raiders to pick up, although there is still NO RB on that team. I laughed and cried when Moss' agent called the Raiders Super Bowl contenders. Even as a die-hard Raider fan, I know this isn't the case, haha.
effzee said:u never ever know. the offense looks pretty set, gun slinging QB with 2 great WRs and a down the field type head coach. weirder things have happened.
1) Should the Vikings have traded Randy Moss?
53.3% Yes
46.7% No
2) What are the Raiders getting?
78.8% One of the best WRs in the NFL
21.2% The biggest headache in the NFL
3) Who is getting the better end of the deal?
68.7% Raiders - Randy Moss
31.3% Vikings - Napoleon Harris, No. 7 pick overall, late-round pick
4) Would you be happy if your favorite team had added Moss for a similar price?
68.0% Yes
32.0% No
5) Will the Oakland Raiders make the playoffs this season?
60.8% No
39.2% Yes
6) Which team will win a Super Bowl first?
50.1% Vikings
49.9% Raiders
7) Moss missed five games last season, but caught 111 passes for 1,632 yards and 17 TDs in 2003. Which of the following is closest to what he'll do for the Raiders?
47.3% 90-plus catches, 1,200-plus yards, 10-plus TDs
34.3% 100-plus catches, 1,500-plus yards, 15-plus TDs
14.8% 75-plus catches, 1,000-plus yards, 7-plus TDs
3.6% Less than 75 catches, 1000 yards and 7 TDs
8) If you were potential new owner Reggie Fowler, would you still be interested in buying the Vikings without Moss on the team?
66.5% Yes
33.5% No
9) Who is the best wide receiver in the NFL?
41.4% Randy Moss
35.4% Terrell Owens
20.1% Marvin Harrison
3.1% Torry Holt
10) Who benefited the most from the other?
45.9% Daunte Culpepper benefited more from Randy Moss
42.3% They benefited equally from each other
11.9% Randy Moss benefited more from Daunte Culpepper
TheDuce22 said:After the way TO came back in the superbowl there is no doubt in my mind that he is the best reciever in the nfl. He does it all and is willing to go all out for his team, unlike Moss.
Eminem said:TO's superbowl effort was beyond courageous. But he's still not as GOOD as Moss. More heart? of course. Better? Nope.
TO's superbowl effort was beyond courageous. But he's still not as GOOD as Moss. More heart? of course. Better? Nope.
FrenchMovieTheme said:i have to admit both teams win in this trade as it stands now.
the raiders get:
* Possibly the most deadly WR tandem in the AFC aside from the colts (although i wouldn't call the colts a tandem, i'd call them a mob)
* Instant credibility deep
* Automatically improved running game
the vikings get:
* Good draft pick
* Cancer off the team
* They were legit w/o moss last year
good trade for both!
alejob said:They are showing the Combine live this year in the NFL Network. Should be cool to watch.
Pimpwerx said:Oh yeah, in other news, Jay Fiedler is GONE!!!! Woooo! Let the celebration begin.Now, if we can just do something about Feeley next, it'll all be taken care of. PEACE.
soulja224466 said:marshall faulk redid his contract (2/$6M)
Pace may be signing soon
Rams looking to sign fred miller (RT cut by tenn)
Pisa tinoisamoa moved to SS.
Looking pretty good so far. If we can sign a big name FA MLB, and draft a good WLB, and get a FS somewhere, we're gonna be dangerous next year. The offense is set, if we get fred miller, then we can draft and sign defense the rest of the way.
FrenchMovieTheme said:i heard about that trade piston. i have to ask what the F because those two receivers are basically identical. the only difference being that moss returns punts, but other than that both are average to (possibly) slightly above average at best. the deal doesn't make a lot of sense for the jets because they're going to have to eat that ridiculous contract that coles has, but oh well!
Daniel Snyder: I didn't get rich by writing checks friends!
effzee said:it might work for the skins cause moss is a FA no after this coming season?
anyway the eagles might be eyeing givens....i hope they pursue MM first.
yodathesoda said:The mention of the Bears picking up Warner even as a backup makes me sick. We have better pick up either Mushin or even better, Plaxico.
Eminem said:last i hear llovie wasn't too fond of warner. hope that stays true. get a decent backup, yeah. but not warner.
if grossman goes out again, i think he may be one of those guys that is injured all the time and we need a new plan all over(FUCK)
But i refuse to believe that.
Ninja Scooter said:as long as Mrs. Doubtfire is coaching that team, you're never gonna be "dangerous".
soulja224466 said:What makes you think that? What other offense put up 500 points three years in a row, and a 450 point season in 2003. If the defense improves to even average, the rams will be dangerous again.
Syckx said:Why the fuck would we sign Bledsoe?
Eminem said:definitely. we need WRs bad. I'm through with Mr. Michigan David "I talk shit but I can't catch" Terrell
INDIANAPOLIS -- For wide receiver Muhsin Muhammad, released Friday afternoon by the Carolina Panthers, the stay in the NFL unemployment line was a brief one.
Less than 12 hours after the Panthers terminated Muhammad's contract, rather than pay him a $10 million roster bonus, the veteran wide receiver and the Chicago Bears reached an agreement in principle on a multi-year deal, ESPN.com has learned. There remains some work to be done on contract language and distribution of funds, sources said, but the two sides are in accord on all key parameters of the deal.
Because some details remain, specifics of the contract were not yet available. But it is assumed that Muhammad will receive in the area of $10 million in total guarantees and will earn an average of between $5 million-$6 million in the first three seasons.
The agreement came in the early hours of Saturday morning, around 3 a.m, after a long night of negotiations between agent Joel Segal and Bears officials. The Bears were one of the first teams to contact Segal when his client's availability became official on Friday. Several other franchises checked in with Segal as well but Chicago, which has made the upgrade of its wide receiver corps and offseason priority, moved very aggressively to close a deal.
There has been plenty of speculation here, where teams have gathered for the annual combine workouts, that the Bears would address their wide receiver need in the draft, perhaps by choosing University of Michigan star Braylon Edwards with the fourth pick in the first round. How the acquisition of Muhammad affects the Bears' draft plans remains to be seen.
Adding the nine-year veteran Muhammad provides young quarterback Rex Grossman, who will go to training camp as the starter, a proven and dependable target.
Chicago wide receivers combined for just 111 catches, 1,561 yards and three touchdowns in 2004. The leading wideout, David Terrell, posted 42 receptions for 699 yards and one touchdown. The consensus, even before the Muhammad deal, was that Terrell, a first-round choice in the 2001 draft, would be cut in the offseason.
A former Michigan State standout, Muhammad, 31, is coming off the finest all-around season of his career. He registered 93 catches for 1,405 yards and 16 touchdowns, and was on the NFC Pro Bowl squad. Most impressive about Muhammad's 2004 performance was that it came without fellow receiver Steve Smith on the field.
Smith suffered a season-ending broken leg in the first game of the year, taking away the Panthers' premier deep-ball threat. But despite facing weekly double-team coverage in Smith's absence, Muhammad flourished and he led the NFL in receiving yards.
For his career, Muhammad has 578 receptions for 7,751 yards and 44 touchdowns. He has five seasons of 60-plus catches and three years with 1,000 or more receiving yards. Muhammad, who will turn 32 in May, appeared in 125 games, and started in 113 of them.
Carolina on Friday made the difficult decision to terminate Muhammad's contract because it simply was prohibitive for the Panthers. With the $10 million roster bonus, a base salary of $650,000 and some prorated charges, Muhammad carried a salary cap charge of $12.5 million for 2005.
Carl Poston needs to fucking die already.WasabiKing said:EDIT: Any team with the $1-#6 pick want to give it up for an All-Pro CB? THanks a lot, Postons, you fucks!
INDIANAPOLIS - The Giants have a need to upgrade at left tackle. The Rams are tired of slapping a franchise tag on left tackle Orlando Pace. Could both teams help one another out? It's possible.
The teams have held preliminary discussions about a swap for Pace, one of the league's premier left tackles since being drafted with the first overall pick in 1997. Although a deal does not appear imminent, the fact that both teams are talking about Pace is intriguing.
Giants general manager Ernie Accorsi declined comment. Rams coach Mike Martz was unavailable for comment.
Giants coach Tom Coughlin said Thursday he planned to go into the season with Luke Petitgout as his left tackle and keep David Diehl at right tackle. But there has been some talk of moving Diehl to guard, where he played as a rookie in 2003, and move Petitgout to right tackle.
If the Rams were to trade for Petitgout, it would signal the Giants were reasonably comfortable with keeping Diehl at right tackle. There is also the possibility of signing a free-agent tackle, although there are slim pickings on the open market.
Another potential player to use as trade bait is cornerback Will Allen, who is going into the final year of his contract and is set to make $2.275 million.