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bionic77 said:
More than Ben getting rid of the ball (which he has done successfully in the last month), the offensive line needs to learn how to block. No qb can make up for a bad line, no matter how magnificent and godly they are.
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True but Ben should have his clock turned on panic , but any who here's to hoping we do something in the offseason to improve the line and hopefully we don't have a Sean Mahan type signing.
 
Thu, Dec. 11
NO @ CHI

Sun, Dec. 14
TB @ ATL
SF @ MIA
SEA @ STL
BUF @ NYJ
SD @ KC
WAS @ CIN
TEN @ HOU
GB @ JAC
DET @ IND
MIN @ ARI
PIT @ BAL
DEN @ CAR
NE @ OAK
NYG @ DAL

Mon, Dec. 15
CLE @ PHI
 
jakncoke said:
True but Ben should have his clock turned on panic , but any who here's to hoping we do something in the offseason to improve the line and hopefully we don't have a Sean Mahan type signing.
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I actually give Ben a lot of credit because he stands in there and takes the beating every single week. He doesn't turtle and he doesn't just panic and throw the ball up for grabs.

Doesn't mean he hasn't thrown a few retarded interceptions this year, but considering that he has had no protection from the line this year and no real running game since Parker got injured, I have to be happy that at least Ben is not losing the games and giving the defense a chance every week.

effzee said:
haha @ TO.

now if the cowboys lose this sunday everything will come apart.

delicious.
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While I agree 100%, the same is true for the Eagles.

NFC East is not looking so hot these days and it is possible all 4 teams' fans might be hitting the panic button Monday morning.
 
oh of course.

if redskins lose to the bengals shit hits the fan.

if the eagles lose to the browns in philly....shit might be lit on fire.

mcnabb will run out of town. kolb era begins immediately. and fatso might lose some of his GM responsibility.
 
Skins - Wow this has been a horrible month for us. Samuels gone and portis injured and campbell struggling means....PLAYOFFS!!! the team will resurge once again like every year but be booted in the wildcard....lol.

But seriously we are going nowhere but that was and should have been expected no matter how good our record was. Winning but not scoring was gonna bite us eventually and here we are. We need to put in the rookies and work on our young talent for next year. I really think we need a 2nd back with pure speed like every other team has(good teams gnats/titans/panthers). Portis is a beast but we lack that SPEED and betts doesn't have it and he fumbles too much(so does portis but he is that much better then betts).

What better time to completly let loose and put in the rookies then againts the bang gals...i mean bungles oh wait Cincy.
 
If Harrison single handedly wins this game against the Ravens (as he did last year in his 5 sack, 2 forced fumble, 1 int performance), will that make him the favorite for MVP consideration or is it just a given that it will go to an offensive player?

I really think Harrison might be required to put on his Superman cape and win this game for us by himself. It sure as hell won't be won by Flacco or Big Ben (unless they win it for the other team).
 
bionic77 said:
I actually give Ben a lot of credit because he stands in there and takes the beating every single week. He doesn't turtle and he doesn't just panic and throw the ball up for grabs.

Doesn't mean he hasn't thrown a few retarded interceptions this year, but considering that he has had no protection from the line this year and no real running game since Parker got injured, I have to be happy that at least Ben is not losing the games and giving the defense a chance every week.
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Every lost this season, except the Eagles game, was in large part due to Roethlisberger's untimely turnovers...
 
Goddammit, my picks got owned again last week.
And so did the Jets. :(

Thu, Dec. 11
NO @ CHI. To me, this is a tossup...but whatever. Gonna go with the Saints.

Sun, Dec. 14
TB @ ATL. Wow, this is sort of a tossup too. But the Falcons are hot right now, so I'm going to bet on black. Wesley Snipes would agree.
SF @ MIA. Ideally, they'd lose and I'd be happy. Realistically, Miami, unlike the Jets, is going to overachieve and not get all swollen about it. Niners aren't beating them.
SEA @ STL. Because it's the Rams.
BUF @ NYJ. This is a must-win game for the Jets, and they'll get up for this one. They got punched in the mouth two weeks in a row believing their press clippings, so now they'll remember that games are won on the field.
SD @ KC. Chargers will destroy the Chiefs. Simple as that.
WAS @ CIN. As much as I'd love the lulz that would come from an upset, the Skins are too good to shit the bed here.
TEN @ HOU. Even if Tennessee started resting people to prepare early for the postseason, they'd still be too much for the Texans.
GB @ JAC. Cardiac Cats for the tossup win; this thread will be awesome as a result.
DET @ IND. Yeah, so that first win of the season isn't happening here.
MIN @ ARI. Kurt Warner and his receiving corps are going to play Xbox on the Vikes secondary.
PIT @ BAL. This game will be close, but it'll also be AMAZING.
DEN @ CAR. FUCK YOU BRONCOS
NE @ OAK. Who the fuck is Kevin O'Connell?
NYG @ DAL. Giants need to stomp on their throats and win this game. No half-stepping.

Mon, Dec. 15
CLE @ PHI. Eagles get a free win!

Okay Jets, you MUST win this game. Seriously. That's all I have to say.

J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS.
 
harSon said:
Every lost this season, except the Eagles game, was in large part due to Roethlisberger's untimely turnovers...
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They have only lost 3 games and Ben didn't lose us the Giants game so basically you are saying that Ben's INTs against the Colts cost us the game (which I agree with), but at the same time we were in each of those games in the 4th quarter. The Steelers were outplayed in those games and lost, but they have come up huge in the 4th against some teams as well (Jags, Ravens, Cowboys, etc.). Everyone is going to lose some games here and there unless you get some breaks.

Myself, I am glad the Steelers have come up big in the 4th quarter to steel some games because you always have to do that at least once in the playoffs to win the SB.
 
If Miami wins and the Jets lose...WE'RE GOING STREAKING!!!

Seriously though, nothing could be better. Well, it could be better if the Patriots lose too. Everything is always better when the Patriots lose.
 
bionic77 said:
They have only lost 3 games and Ben didn't lose us the Giants game so basically you are saying that Ben's INTs against the Colts cost us the game (which I agree with), but at the same time we were in each of those games in the 4th quarter. The Steelers were outplayed in those games and lost, but they have come up huge in the 4th against some teams as well (Jags, Ravens, Cowboys, etc.). Everyone is going to lose some games here and there unless you get some breaks.

Myself, I am glad the Steelers have come up big in the 4th quarter to steel some games because you always have to do that at least once in the playoffs to win the SB.
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Ben had 4 interceptions and 2 Fumbles in the Giants game, I believe two of them resulted in scores (A touchdown and field goal). We lost the game by 7 points. He wasn't the sole reason we lost, the untimely injuries and safety sealed the deal, but he certainly didn't help the cause.
 
bionic77 said:
Myself, I am glad the Steelers have come up big in the 4th quarter to steel some games because you always have to do that at least once in the playoffs to win the SB.
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harhar
 
SF @ MIA. Ideally, they'd lose and I'd be happy. Realistically, Miami, unlike the Jets, is going to overachieve and not get all swollen about it. Niners aren't beating them.
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u mad? you view our ass beating of your team as a "let down" on your part, but you should just accept that you were out coached and out played from the start. it wasn't YOUR team letting up or giving us the game, it was us taking it from you. if you had come in on a 10 game win streak or something, ok. but i guarantee you after the demolition you guys got at the hands of the broncos all your players were coming out hungry for a win.... just like the dolphins.

we're going to beat the overrated dolphins and thus cause more problems in your division! its too bad we dont play you guys for another 4 years, niners own the AFC East.... never forget!
 
Jeff-DSA said:
If Miami wins and the Jets lose...WE'RE GOING STREAKING!!!

Seriously though, nothing could be better. Well, it could be better if the Patriots lose too. Everything is always better when the Patriots lose.
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Amen.
 
So apparently LenDale is miffed that everyone is calling the Panthers RB duo Smash and Dash, talking about how he made t-shirts and copyrighted the nickname...said our duo should be called Identity & Theft :lol

I heard some more apt nicknames for the White/Johnson duo: Shamu and Flipper, Tortoise and Hare :lol
 
Bowser said:
So apparently LenDale is miffed that everyone is calling the Panthers RB duo Smash and Dash, talking about how he made t-shirts and copyrighted the nickname...said our duo should be called Identity & Theft :lol

I heard some more apt nicknames for the White/Johnson duo: Shamu and Flipper, Tortoise and Hare :lol
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LenDale should focus on devastating all you can eat buffets and dressing like a retard.
 
http://kissingsuzykolber.uproxx.com/2008/12/the-ksk-running-back-tandem-nickname-generator.html

Tomlinson and Sproles — “Hurt & Squirt”
McClane and Rice — “5.95 at the Chef Chen’s”
Portis and Betts — “Bitch and Bench”
Jamaal Charles & Larry Johnson - “Grit ‘n’ Spit”
Julius Jones and Maurice Morris — “Mohawk and Cravecock”
James & Hightower — “Edge ‘n’ Sledge”
Westbrook and Buckhalter - “Questionable & Doubtful”
Kevin Faulk and Sammy Morris — “Dink & Dunk”
Matt Forte and Kevin Jones — “Forte & Shit-tay”
Parker and Moore — “Willwelde”
Thomas Jones and Leon Washington “WHO DO I START IN FANTASY?”
Adrian and Chester — “Jesus & Vulture”
Taylor and Jones-Drew — “M.J.D. & O.L.D.”
Earnest Graham and Caddilac — “MCL & ACL”
______ & _______ — “Whoever Shanny Claims off the Waiver Wire”
Jerome Harrison & Jamal Lewis — “Wheelin’ & Dealin’”
Ronnie Brown and Ricky Williams — “Brown & Green”
Marion & Felix — “Sounds like two gay geriatrics”
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:lol
 
"..the Tennessee fatback..." :lol
was not expecting such a simple one when i clicked the link.
 
fatback? :lol :lol So true.

EDIT: ESPN also has the great term "Lunchdale". :lol

Okay, time for some contingency planning. If Addai really can't go this week...

Fargas vs. Pats: Continues to do absolutely nothing, it's in raider-land
Tatum vs. Panthers: Can't fucking believe I'd start tatum in any situation, but here we are
Mewelde vs. Ravens: Normally he's a good start these days...but it's the Ravens
Choice vs. Gmen: Assuming Barber plays, I'm guessing this is a bad idea.
 
Hunter D said:
I hope someone really fucks TO up in the next game.
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I recall a similar conversation about that hit put on welker last week... and how I'd love to see that applied to TO more then anyone in the NFL.
 
Dirtbag said:
I recall a similar conversation about that hit put on welker last week... and how I'd love to see that applied to TO more then anyone in the NFL.
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It's why TO never goes across the middle.:lol
 
Thu, Dec. 11
NO @ CHI

Sun, Dec. 14
TB @ ATL
SF @ MIA
SEA @ STL
BUF @ NYJ
SD @ KC
WAS @ CIN
TEN @ HOU
GB @ JAC
DET @ IND
MIN @ ARI
PIT @ BAL
DEN @ CAR
NE @ OAK
NYG @ DAL

Mon, Dec. 15
CLE @ PHI
 
SI.com does a redo of the 2008 draft knowing what we know now

Don Banks' 2008 Revised NFL Draft

1 Miami Dolphins

(Original Pick: Jake Long, OT, Michigan)
RE-DO PICK: MATT RYAN, QB, BOSTON COLLEGE
Chad Pennington has been superb, and Chad Henne is locked and loaded as the Dolphins quarterback of the future. But Ryan is in the midst of one of the greatest seasons ever by a rookie quarterback, and you don't pass on that given a second chance. Just like Ben Roethlisberger in our inaugural re-draft of 2004, Ryan shoots to the top of the heap.

2 St. Louis Rams

(Original Pick: Chris Long, DE, Virginia)
RE-DO PICK: JOE FLACCO, QB, DELAWARE
You think Flacco lingers to No. 18 on the board this time around? Uh, no. It's a quarterbacks league, and while I'm not sure anyone could win in St. Louis about now, Marc Bulger sure isn't getting it done. The list of teams that wished it had believed in Flacco last spring is getting longer all the time.

3 Atlanta Falcons

(Original Pick: Matt Ryan, QB, Boston College)
RE-DO PICK: JAKE LONG, OT, MICHIGAN
Without the Falcons getting their quarterback in this slot, they would turn to their need at left offensive tackle, where they took USC's Sam Baker after trading back into the first round at No. 21. Long, Ryan Clady and Duane Brown have all excelled at LT this year, but the ex-Wolverine has been a solid pro.

4 Oakland Raiders

(Original Pick: Darren McFadden, RB, Arkansas)
RE-DO PICK: CHRIS JOHNSON, RB, EAST CAROLINA
We all know Al Davis loves speed, but in Johnson he gets speed that has actually produced as a rookie. McFadden has just one 100-yard rushing game, and that came in Week 2. Johnson has been a spectacular season-long contributor to Tennessee's overwhelmingly successful running game.

5 Kansas City Chiefs

(Original Pick: Glenn Dorsey, DT, LSU)
RE-DO PICK: CHRIS LONG, DE, VIRGINIA
The Chiefs have gotten virtually zero impact out of Dorsey, and they sure could have used some defensive line help to offset the loss of the traded Jared Allen. Long has modest statistics, but his four sacks are a good first step in the right direction. Don't forget it took Mario Williams until year two to find his groove.

6 New York Jets

(Original Pick: Vernon Gholston, LB, Ohio State)
RE-DO PICK: DOMINIQUE RODGERS-CROMARTIE, CB, TENNESSEE STATE
If the Jets defense has had a weakness this year, it has been at cornerback. Rodgers-Cromartie has quickly emerged as a play-maker in Arizona, and he's getting more playing time than any other rookie corner. Gholston, meanwhile, has serious bust potential.

7 New Orleans Saints

(Original Pick: Sedrick Ellis, DE, USC)
RE-DO PICK: MATT FORTE, RB, TULANE
The Saints' Drew Brees-led passing game has had to carry far too much of the load again, and New Orleans sure could have used Forte, the Louisiana native who played collegiately in their backyard. At 6-foot-2, 222 pounds, Forte gives the Saints the size they lack in the backfield, and he catches the ball as well as Reggie Bush.

8 Jacksonville Jaguars

(Original Pick: Derrick Harvey, DE, Florida)
RE-DO PICK: DESEAN JACKSON, WR, CALIFORNIA
Harvey's rookie season was ruined by his long holdout, but Jackson's first-year impact has been impressive in Philly. Stop us if you've heard this before, but the Jaguars need more receivers. Jerry Porter has been hurt most of the year, Troy Williamson has been a zero, and Matt Jones, while productive, just got suspended.

9 Cincinnati Bengals

(Original Pick: Keith Rivers, LB, USC)
RE-DO PICK: STEVE SLATON, RB, WEST VIRGINIA
Tough call here. Rivers was playing very well until he got his jaw busted by Hines Ward early in Week 7. And the Bengals loved Jerod Mayo, who went No. 10 to New England. But defense hasn't been the problem for a change in Cincy, the offense has. When Cedric Benson is your leading rusher, you need help in the running game. Slaton has been a revelation for Houston.

10 New England Patriots

(Original Pick: Jerod Mayo, LB, Tennessee)
RE-DO PICK: MAYO
We're not here to fix what ain't broken. The Patriots love everything about their rookie inside linebacker, and he has been their most consistent performer at a position decimated by injuries. If it had the chance, New England would make exactly the same selection all over again.

11 Buffalo Bills

(Original Pick: Leodis McKelvin, CB, Troy)
RE-DO PICK: RYAN CLADY, OT, BOISE STATE
The Bills landed themselves a player in McKelvin, who has added impact in the secondary and as a kick returner. But with the whole Jason Peters holdout fiasco still complicating the long-term picture at left offensive tackle, we're giving them Clady, who has been a godsend for Denver's OL.

12 Denver Broncos

(Original Pick: Ryan Clady, OT, Boise State)
RE-DO PICK: DUANE BROWN, OT, VIRGINIA TECH
We were tempted to select Oregon's Jonathan Stewart for the Broncos, given that they've gone through running backs like Kleenex this season. But Denver doesn't take first-round running backs. With no Clady on the board, we stick with a left tackle in Brown, who has started 12 games for Houston and excelled in run blocking.

13 Carolina Panthers

(Original Pick: Jonathan Stewart, RB, Oregon)
RE-DO PICK: STEWART
After watching Carolina's two-headed backfield tandem of Stewart and DeAngelo Williams run wild against shell-shocked Tampa Bay on Monday night, how could you say the Panthers' first-round pick was anything but a grand slam? I can't help but notice you never see the first defender bringing down Stewart.

14 Chicago Bears

(Original Pick: Chris Williams, OT, Vanderbilt)
RE-DO PICK: DARREN MCFADDEN, RB, ARKANSAS
Everything after September has been a washout for McFadden, but without Forte on the board, the Bears would still have needed a running threat. Receiver Eddie Royal or offensive tackle Jeff Otah would make sense too, because Chris Williams has rarely made it onto the field.

15 Kansas City Chiefs

(Branden Albert, OL, Virginia)
RE-DO PICK: JOHN CARLSON, TE, NOTRE DAME
It's hard to quibble with Albert, who has been all the Chiefs could have expected from a rookie left tackle. But Carlson is one of the best young tight ends in the league, and if Kansas City had him, it would have definitely moved veteran Tony Gonzalez at the trade deadline for some more draft picks to aid in its rebuilding project.

16 Arizona Cardinals

(Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, CB, Tennessee State)
RE-DO PICK: AQIB TALIB, CB, KANSAS
No rocket science to this one. Rodgers-Cromartie has been a very good first-round pick, but he's gone on our board, so we're giving the Cardinals Talib, who has been solid as a situational cover man for Tampa Bay.

17 Detroit Lions

(Original Pick: Gosder Cherilus, OL, Boston College)
RE-DO PICK: EDDIE ROYAL, WR, VIRGINIA TECH
I know, I know. The idea of the Lions taking a first-round receiver would probably set off some kind of civic disturbance near Ford Field. But after all those top 10 picks at receiver, Detroit last week had to rely on the likes of Keary Colbert and John Standeford to play alongside Calvin Johnson. Royal has been a difference-maker in Denver.

18 Baltimore Ravens

(Original Pick: Joe Flacco, QB, Ravens)
RE-DO PICK: LEODIS MCKELVIN, CB, TROY
You get the feeling that almost everything about the Ravens' great season might have changed if they hadn't drafted Flacco, but with him long gone, we're giving them McKelvin as the logical replacement for Chris McAlister. The veteran cornerback is on IR and likely won't be back in 2009.

19 Carolina Panthers

(Original Pick: Jeff Otah, OL, Pittsburgh)
RE-DO PICK: OTAH
It may be boring that I've given Carolina both Stewart and Otah, the two first-rounders it actually selected, but how can you argue with success? Otah has played a solid right tackle opposite Jordan Gross, and the Panthers running game has rolled all season long.

20 Tampa Bay Buccaneers

(Original Pick: Aqib Talib, CB, Kansas)
RE-DO PICK: KEITH RIVERS, LB, USC
As we noted above, Rivers' rookie season was cut short due to that broken jaw in Week 7, but he was off to a great start and he'd give the Bucs' an ideal replacement for Derrick Brooks when the decorated outside linebacker is ready to hang 'em up.

21 Atlanta Falcons

(Original Pick: Sam Baker, OT, USC)
RE-DO PICK: CURTIS LOFTON, LB, OKLAHOMA
With the Falcons having landed their offensive tackle in Jake Long at No. 3, and no obvious first-round quarterback option to turn to here, we're giving them Lofton, who Atlanta selected in the second. The rookie middle linebacker has been so consistently productive that the Falcons would have taken him earlier if they knew he was this good.

22 Dallas Cowboys

(Original Pick: Felix Jones, RB, Arkansas)
RE-DO PICK: CHRIS HORTON, S, UCLA
Between the injured Roy Williams and Ken Hamlin, the Cowboys safety position has been a disaster. Horton, a seventh-round pick of Washington's, made an early impact this season and has three interceptions, 65 tackles, eight passes defensed and a fumble recovery. This would also allow Dallas to conveniently weaken a division rival.

23 Pittsburgh Steelers

(Original Pick: Rashard Mendenhall, RB, Illinois)
RE-DO PICK: KEVIN SMITH, RB, CENTRAL FLORIDA
The Steelers didn't get much out of Mendenhall before Ray Lewis ended his season with a broken shoulder, and with Willie Parker's injury concerns, another running back just makes sense here. Smith has toiled in the hell known as Detroit's season, but he does have 933 yards of combined rushing and receiving with five touchdowns.

24 Tennessee Titans

(Original Pick: Chris Johnson, RB, East Carolina)
RE-DO PICK: DUSTIN KELLER, TE, PURDUE
Bo Scaife leads the Titans with 50 catches for 517 yards, but in a Titans offense that loves to throw to the tight end, they could use even more out of the position than he and Alge Crumpler have produced. Keller has been superb for the Jets, but with Johnson gone, we were tempted with the idea of giving Tennessee running back Felix Jones in this slot.

25 Dallas Cowboys

(Original Pick: Mike Jenkins, CB, South Florida)
RE-DO PICK: DONNIE AVERY, WR, HOUSTON
Maybe if the Cowboys had selected the ex-Houston Cougar Avery, they would have had their No. 2 receiver and could have avoided hugely overpaying for Roy Williams at the trade deadline. Avery, the first receiver taken last April, showed some big-play flashes for the Rams in October.

26 Houston Texans

(Original Pick: Duane Brown, OT, Virginia Tech)
RE-DO PICK: KENNY PHILLIPS, S, MIAMI
We could have given the Texans a tackle like Sam Baker to replace the productive Brown, but back surgery took a huge chunk out of Baker's season in Atlanta. The Texans could have used an upgrade at safety, where Eugene Wilson, Will Demps and Nick Ferguson are so-so. Phillips has shown up nicely for the defending champs.

27 San Diego Chargers

(Original Pick: Antoine Cason, CB, Arizona)
RE-DO PICK: DERRICK HARVEY, DE, FLORIDA
OK, we're leaning a little stronger toward projection here than we like to, but Harvey is potentially too good to leave out of our first round altogether. As we said, he ruined his rookie season with that never-ending holdout, but the Chargers are in need of pass rushers with Shawne Merriman injured and facing free agency after 2009.

28 Seattle Seahawks

(Original Pick: Lawrence Jackson, DE, Southern Cal)
RE-DO PICK: JORDY NELSON, WR, KANSAS STATE
The Seahawks were wiped out on the injury front at receiver this season, almost at the level of a Biblical plague. The Packers love Nelson and believe they got first-round value in taking him 36th overall. Without tight end John Carlson remaining on the board, finding someone else to catch the ball fills the most urgent need.

29 San Francisco 49ers

(Original Pick: Kentwan Balmer, DT, North Carolina)
RE-DO PICK: GLENN DORSEY, DT, LSU
If you're going to wind up taking a low-impact defensive tackle -- as the 49ers did with Balmer -- you might as well draft the guy who most teams had rated as a top-three pick. Dorsey has been near invisible in Kansas City, but his obvious play-making skills will make themselves known at some point.

30 New York Jets

(Original Pick: Dustin Keller, TE, Purdue)
RE-DO PICK: BRANDEN ALBERT, OL, VIRGINIA
With no Keller around to spend this pick on, we think it makes sense for the Jets to add to their vastly improved offensive line by selecting Albert. Ideally he'd take over for veteran Damien Woody at right tackle at some point, but he can also play guard, where he starred in college.

31 New York Giants

(Original Pick: Kenny Phillips, S, Miami)
RE-DO PICK: SEDRICK ELLIS, DT, USC
With no Michael Strahan or Osi Umenyiora to rely on this season, the Giants haven't had the rotational defensive line depth that meant so much to their Super Bowl season in 2007. Ellis hasn't made the rookie impact many expected him to make this season in New Orleans, but in New York he'd have a bit more time and latitude to develop his NFL game.

First-round picks who did not make the cut this time: No. 6 Vernon Gholston, Jets, LB; No. 14 Chris Williams, Bears, OT; No. 17 Gosder Cherilus, Lions, OT; No. 21 Sam Baker, Falcons, OT; No. 22 Felix Jones, Cowboys, RB; No. 23 Rashard Mendenhall, Steelers, RB; No. 25 Mike Jenkins, Cowboys, CB; No. 27 Antoine Cason, Chargers, CB; No. 28 Lawrence Jackson, Seahawks, DE; No. 29 Kentwan Balmer, 49ers, DT.
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XiaNaphryz said:
SI.com does a redo of the 2008 draft knowing what we know now
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The Saints have the #1 offense in the league (even with our fieldgoal kicking woes), and they still think we should draft an offensive player? Why wouldn't we go after the best defensive player available?

idiots.

I'll be the first to admit that Reggie Bush hasn't come close to living up to the hype, but we really don't need to improve the offense much more... just stop a few teams on D and we'd be a superbowl caliber team.
 
Dirtbag said:
The Saints have the #1 offense in the league (even with our fieldgoal kicking woes), and they still think we should draft an offensive player? Why wouldn't we go after the best defensive player available?

idiots.

I'll be the first to admit that Reggie Bush hasn't come close to living up to the hype, but we really don't need to improve the offense much more... just stop a few teams on D and we'd be a superbowl caliber team.
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Their not exactly geniuses it seems, going by "what we know now" the Texans absolutely would not pick a safety, they would pick a running back, since Old Man Brittle gets hurt in the second game and cannot play in the third.
 
Okay, so I've got Arizona's D vs Minnesota (Who's starting T.Jack at QB this week) AND Washington's D vs Cinci this week

Who do I start?
 
Sorry it's late but I almost forgot.

Thu, Dec. 11
NO @ CHI

Sun, Dec. 14
TB @ ATL
SF @ MIA
SEA @ STL
BUF @ NYJ
SD @ KC
WAS @ CIN
TEN @ HOU
GB @ JAC
DET @ IND
MIN @ ARI
PIT @ BAL
DEN @ CAR
NE @ OAK
NYG @ DAL

Mon, Dec. 15
CLE @ PHI
 
FrenchMovieTheme said:
u mad? you view our ass beating of your team as a "let down" on your part, but you should just accept that you were out coached and out played from the start. it wasn't YOUR team letting up or giving us the game, it was us taking it from you. if you had come in on a 10 game win streak or something, ok. but i guarantee you after the demolition you guys got at the hands of the broncos all your players were coming out hungry for a win.... just like the dolphins.

we're going to beat the overrated dolphins and thus cause more problems in your division! its too bad we dont play you guys for another 4 years, niners own the AFC East.... never forget!
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You sure get excited each time San Fran shows the tiniest bit of competency, don't you?
 
FrenchMovieTheme said:
u mad? you view our ass beating of your team as a "let down" on your part, but you should just accept that you were out coached and out played from the start. it wasn't YOUR team letting up or giving us the game, it was us taking it from you. if you had come in on a 10 game win streak or something, ok. but i guarantee you after the demolition you guys got at the hands of the broncos all your players were coming out hungry for a win.... just like the dolphins.

we're going to beat the overrated dolphins and thus cause more problems in your division! its too bad we dont play you guys for another 4 years, niners own the AFC East.... never forget!
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how are the dolphins overrated? no1 is claiming theyre a great team or a contender, but we are, i feel, the best team in the division as of now. no1 in the afc east is a great team, were all decent.. and some more than others are on the rise as a future contender. the 49ers on the other hand are shit, have been shit for quite some time, and will remain shit for quite some time.

you are correct about last weeks game though. the jets are extremely overrated and it will show week 17 when we play them for the division.. for the first time in a long time the fins control their own destiny, we are not blowing the season on the niners or the chiefs i guarantee it.

AGAIN, i haven't seen any1 claim the fins are some great force, were just a good team at this point. we still make plenty of mistakes due to inexperienced players or w/e but the coaching and pennington have been consistently pleasant. where as the jets have favre, and there is absolutely nothing consistent about that man.
 
I'm going CHI tonight. While NO is the better team, outdoors and weather....CHI. As a Vikes fan I am hoping I am wrong.

For ARZ vs MIN, tough call. I'll go MIN as a fan and I think the pass game of ARZ will be disrupted with heavy pass rush pressure.
 
I rather have Kenny Phillips than a tackle right now. Robbins has been playing with two broken hands so of course he doesn't look great right now.

I wish Alford would bulk up a bit. >:|
 
So the Eagles need a perfect weekend. I need it.

Redskins, Cowboys, Falcons, and Bears lose.

If all that happens the Eagles are the 6th seed even before they play on Monday against the Browns.

BTW how does the seeding work again? If the Eagles do happen to make it as one of the wild card teams at 10-5-1, are they seeded lower than a division leader even if their record is 10-6?
 
effzee said:
So the Eagles need a perfect weekend. I need it.

Redskins, Cowboys, Falcons, and Bears lose.

If all that happens the Eagles are the 6th seed even before they play on Monday against the Browns.

BTW how does the seeding work again? If the Eagles do happen to make it as one of the wild card teams at 10-5-1, are they seeded lower than a division leader even if their record is 10-6?
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Wild Card teams are always seeded lower than the four Division winners.
 
Crazymoogle Colts signed Najeh Davenport, so doesn't look very good for Addai to be playing. I'd play Fargas.

T.O. must be eating up the coverage they are giving him. I only hopes it amounts to a big numbers day for him Sunday, I got Fantasy playoffs on the line and don't expect him to be able to do much vs the Giants.

Fantasy Q's:

Kurt vs. Minn or McNabb vs Cle

Should I bench Grant, T.O. Calvin or Lynch for DeSean in a PPR League or no?

Bills D vs Jets, or grab Skins vs Cinci or Chargers vs KC off the Waivers?

And best Kicker to play this week:
Prater vs Carolina
Suisham vs Cinci
 
TO in full TO mode.

Can't believe how fast the Cowboys are melting down.

I think this might be the end of TO's NFL career. Other than the Raiders I can't see any other team taking TO, and I don't even think Al Davis is crazy enough to try that.
 
did you guys just catch the Sportcenter Breaking News?

LMAO:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol


:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol


Ed Werder is reporting that TO is upset about the close relationship that Romo and Witten have. TO believes Romo and Witten get together during the week and have private meetings where they draw up plays to get the ball to Witten and keep TO out of the loop. To believes this is why TO does not lead the team in receiving. Some other anonymous players and one starting LB told Ed Werder that its been going on for a while and other teammates have had to step in to squash the situation. One of the anonymous players claims that Romo would never step up to TO to address the problem because TO would get pissed off and at this point they need him so everyone basically tries not to piss him off worried he might lose it.

Werder also reports that TO has recruited Roy Williams, the WR, and Crayton on his side and they also believe Romo ignores them in favor of Witten. All 3 of the WRs supposedly met privately with Jason Garrett to complain this week.

:lol :lol :lol

Sounds very similar to how TO supposedly was upset at McNabb for saying, during the 04 playoffs while TO was hurt, that the Eagles could win without TO.
 
bionic77 said:
TO in full TO mode.

Can't believe how fast the Cowboys are melting down.

I think this might be the end of TO's NFL career. Other than the Raiders I can't see any other team taking TO, and I don't even think Al Davis is crazy enough to try that.
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I wanna hear from all the Cowboys fans who always wonder why everyone hates TO?

I was the same when he was on my team :(

You can throw money at him and pass to him majority of the game and he will still never be happy. He has the maturity of a 3 yr old. All he wants is attention 24/7.
 
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