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[LiveWire]

Hello darkness, my old friend,

I've come to talk with you again,

Because a vision softly creeping,

Left its seeds while I was sleeping,

And the vision that was planted in my brain

Still remains

Within the sound of silence.

Week 4

SUN, SEP 28 TIME (ET)
Minnesota at Tennessee 1:00 PM FOX - These teams are a mirror image of each other. The AFC's only defense drops a close one.
Denver at Kansas City 1:00 PM CBS - Denver, proud representative of the AFL, I mean, Arena.....I mean, AFC.
San Francisco at New Orleans 1:00 PM FOX - The Niners! No, really? J.T. Overdrive continues his winning ways against an increasingly injured Saints team.
Arizona at NY Jets 1:00 PM FOX - FAVRE FAVRE FAVRE FAVRE FAVRE FAVRE
Green Bay at Tampa Bay 1:00 PM FOX - Meet Aaron Rodgers, the star of Warner Bros. "Happy Feet 2"!
Atlanta at Carolina 1:00 PM FOX
Houston at Jacksonville 1:00 PM CBS
Cleveland at Cincinnati 1:00 PM CBS - A repeat of last year's shootout? Or just two really shitty teams with shitty coaches? You make the call!
San Diego at Oakland 4:05 PM CBS - KIFFIN KIFFIN KIFFIN KIFFIN KIFFIN KIFFIN
Buffalo at St. Louis 4:05 PM CBS - The AFC East Champs continue their win streak. Will they meet an NFC East team in the SuperBowl, only to lose for the 5th time?
Washington at Dallas 4:15 PM FOX -

Philadelphia at Chicago 8:15 PM NBC - No Westbrook, no Eagles offense.

MON, SEP 29 TIME (ET)
Baltimore at Pittsburgh 8:30 PM ESPN

·Bye: Detroit, Indianapolis, Miami, New England, NY Giants, Seattle


Cut 'n Paste:

SUN, SEP 28
Minnesota at Tennessee
Denver at Kansas City
San Francisco at New Orleans
Arizona at NY Jets
Green Bay at Tampa Bay
Atlanta at Carolina
Houston at Jacksonville
Cleveland at Cincinnati
San Diego at Oakland
Buffalo at St. Louis
Washington at Dallas
Philadelphia at Chicago

MON, SEP 29
Baltimore at Pittsburgh

 

[Duke Togo]

SUN, SEP 28
Minnesota at Tennessee
Denver at Kansas City
San Francisco at New Orleans
Arizona at NY Jets
Green Bay at Tampa Bay
Atlanta at Carolina
Houston at Jacksonville
Cleveland at Cincinnati
San Diego at Oakland
Buffalo at St. Louis
Washington at Dallas
Philadelphia at Chicago

MON, SEP 29
Baltimore at Pittsburgh

I'd like to forget week 3 ASAP.

 

[mYm|17|]

SUN, SEP 28
Minnesota at Tennessee
Denver at Kansas City
San Francisco at New Orleans
Arizona at NY Jets
Green Bay at Tampa Bay
Atlanta at Carolina
Houston at Jacksonville
Cleveland at Cincinnati
San Diego at Oakland
Buffalo at St. Louis
Washington at Dallas
Philadelphia at Chicago

MON, SEP 29
Baltimore at Pittsburgh

 

[FIREBABY]

SUN, SEP 28
Minnesota at Tennessee
Denver at Kansas City
San Francisco atNew Orleans
Arizona at NY Jets
Green Bay atTampa Bay
Atlanta at Carolina
Houston at Jacksonville
Cleveland at Cincinnati
San Diego at Oakland
Buffalo at St. Louis
Washington at Dallas
Philadelphia at Chicago

MON, SEP 29
Baltimore atPittsburgh

Yes, please lets forget week 3. Go Panthers! Hopefully Fox and the O-line get their shit together this week.

 

[h1nch]

If Denver's defense makes Tyler Thigpen look good, I'm gonna be really pissed.

 

[lil smoke]

SUN, SEP 28
Minnesota at Tennessee
Denver at Kansas City
San Francisco at New Orleans
Arizona at NY Jets
Green Bay at Tampa Bay
Atlanta at Carolina
Houston at Jacksonville
Cleveland at Cincinnati
San Diego at Oakland
Buffalo at St. Louis
Washington at Dallas
Philadelphia at Chicago

MON, SEP 29
Baltimore at Pittsburgh


This is what I'm going with. Lot of letdowns.

 

[Skiptastic]

If Denver's defense makes Tyler Thigpen look good, I'm gonna be really pissed.

Won't matter, Jay C and Brandon are gonna roll all over their asses.

 

[bionic77]

I strongly object to this thread and the pictures of Big Ben.

What will the children think when they see their religious figures coming under attack like this?

 

[Chiggs]

SUN, SEP 28TH
Minnesota at Tennessee
Denver at Kansas City - Denver's defense to roar back?
San Francisco at New Orleans
Arizona at NY Jets
Green Bay at Tampa Bay
Atlanta at Carolina
Houston at Jacksonville
Cleveland at Cincinnati
San Diego at Oakland - San Diego has such a cupcake schedule
Buffalo at St. Louis
Washington at Dallas
Philadelphia at Chicago

MON, SEP 29TH
Baltimore at Pittsburgh

 

[hiryu]

SUN, SEP 28
Minnesota at Tennessee
Denver at Kansas City
San Francisco at New Orleans
Arizona at NY Jets
Green Bay at Tampa Bay
Atlanta at Carolina
Houston at Jacksonville
Cleveland at Cincinnati Cleveland is fucked.
San Diego at Oakland
Buffalo at St. Louis
Washington at Dallas
Philadelphia at Chicago

MON, SEP 29
Baltimore at Pittsburgh

 

[Bumblebeetuna]

If Denver's defense makes Tyler Thigpen look good, I'm gonna be really pissed.

If?

The state of Ohio is confirmed to finally get an NFL win this weekend. Missouri will still be winless.

Game of the week.. Vikings @ Tennessee? Should be a great defensive slugfest.

 

[tmdorsey]

If Denver's defense makes Tyler Thigpen look good, I'm gonna be really pissed.

If that happens you might as well get ready for the draft. After seeing him in person I don't see how he's even on a NFL roster

 

[Big-E]

If that happens you might as well get ready for the draft. After seeing him in person I don't see how he's even on a NFL roster

Though I have no evidence to support this, but I assume backup qbs are not chosen for ability but whether or not they have a hot wife or girlfriend. Playing sports all my life I have seen people being chosen for teams due to them having a hot girlfriend/wife/mother so I would not be surprised if this happens on the pro level.

 

[tmdorsey]

Though I have no evidence to support this, but I assume backup qbs are not chosen for ability but whether or not they have a hot wife or girlfriend. Playing sports all my life I have seen people being chosen for teams due to them having a hot girlfriend/wife/mother so I would not be surprised if this happens on the pro level.

Are you serious? Well Thigpen's girl must be a the hottest chick associated with an NFL player.

 

[Big-E]

Are you serious? Well Thigpen's girl must be a the hottest chick associated with an NFL player.

Dude think about it. You got a player who will most likely never play ever so how do you choose someone who can add something to the team? Why do you think Gruden won't get rid of JGar?

 

[Tamanon]

Bulger has been benched for Trent Green

 

[TheClimaxan]

Last Week: 10-6

SUN, SEP 28
Minnesota at Tennessee
Denver at Kansas City
San Francisco at New Orleans
Arizona at NY Jets
Green Bay at Tampa Bay
Atlanta at Carolina
Houston at Jacksonville
Cleveland at Cincinnati
San Diego at Oakland
Buffalo at St. Louis
Washington at Dallas
Philadelphia at Chicago

MON, SEP 29
Baltimore at Pittsburgh

 

[ph33nix]

No more "Miami is favored to lose to bye week" jokes this year!!!

 

[BakedPigeon]

SUN, SEP 28
Minnesota at Tennessee
Denver at Kansas City
San Francisco at New Orleans
Arizona at NY Jets
Green Bay at Tampa Bay
Atlanta at Carolina
Houston at Jacksonville
Cleveland at Cincinnati
San Diego at Oakland
Buffalo at St. Louis
Washington at Dallas
Philadelphia at Chicago

Looks to be a lot of one-sided matchups this week, but I guess anything can happen.

 

[captive]

damn personally I would have gone with "NFL Week 4 thread: Group Therapy for Cowboys fans" or something along those lines.

 

[woodchuck]

i think you have more posts about the cowboys/cowboys fans than posts about the texans

 

[Wellington]

damn personally I would have gone with "NFL Week 4 thread: Group Therapy for Cowboys fans" or something along those lines.

I agree.

Bulger has been benched for Trent Green

Of all the problems with the Rams, the QB is not one of them.

 

[NME]

Apparently Willie Parker is out for Monday against the Ravens. Mendenhall will get the start.

That's one hell of a test for the rookie.

 

[SonnyBoy]

damn personally I would have gone with "NFL Week 4 thread: Group Therapy for Cowboys fans" or something along those lines.

Is it too late to change? :lol

 

[DY_nasty]

I think its time to start Jonathan Stewart... Deangelo is getting better but the better RB is clearly Stewart right now.

 

[bionic77]

Apparently Willie Parker is out for Monday against the Ravens. Mendenhall will get the start.

That's one hell of a test for the rookie.

WTF?

What is wrong with Parker? I didn't even know he was injured.

Damn, it would suck balls to lose against the Ravens. Steelers should just punt on first down and wait for Flacco to give us the game. The way I see it, neither offense is going to win the game but they can and probably will lose it.

 

[LiveWire]

damn personally I would have gone with "NFL Week 4 thread: Group Therapy for Cowboys fans" or something along those lines.

I thought we settled that in Week 3 after ESPN NFL Countdown finally gave the 'girls their props. Oh well.

I agree.

I gave you some props, what more do you want?!

If a mod wants to change the title, I'll change the photos.

 

[jakncoke]

Minnesota at Tennessee
Denver at Kansas City
San Francisco at New Orleans
Arizona at NY Jets
Green Bay at Tampa Bay
Atlanta at Carolina
Houston at Jacksonville
Cleveland at Cincinnati
San Diego at Oakland
Buffalo at St. Louis
Washington at Dallas
Philadelphia at Chicago

MON, SEP 29
Baltimore at Pittsburgh

 

[Big-E]

Apparently Willie Parker is out for Monday against the Ravens. Mendenhall will get the start.

That's one hell of a test for the rookie.

My fantasy plans are beginning to come into alignment.

 

[NomarTyme]

No more "Miami is favored to lose to bye week" jokes this year!!!

Yep, now its the Rams turn.

Also as for Bulger being bench, I don't know what to think of that especially with Green being back him up. Rams oline sucks monster balls Trent is going to died.

 

[NME]

WTF?

What is wrong with Parker? I didn't even know he was injured.

Damn, it would suck balls to lose against the Ravens. Steelers should just punt on first down and wait for Flacco to give us the game. The way I see it, neither offense is going to win the game but they can and probably will lose it.

Sprained knee.

Though, realistically, whoever is running the ball for the Steelers will be hard pressed to get a lot going. I'm more concerned whether or not Ben can throw a forward pass at this point. If he can, then he'll still get some big plays to Santonio and all will be right in Pittsburgh.

 

[Tamanon]

Yeah it sounds to me like this was just a preemptive benching so that Parker's knee doesn't get worse. This is not a game for fragility. Although this might be the game that finally knocks Ben out, judging by the last time they played!:lol

 

[Doomsayer]

Trent Green is going to die behind the Rams oline, poor dude. R.i.p. Trent.


SUN, SEP 28
Minnesota at Tennessee - I don't see the Vikings beating the Titans, just a feeling
Denver at Kansas City - The Cheifs... :X
San Francisco at New Orleans - Doesn't everyone know? JTO = Just Took Over we also have the first ranked pass D in the NFC.
Arizona at NY Jets - Refuse to pick
Green Bay at Tampa Bay - Griese got lucky last week, he wont be throwing 67 times this week
Atlanta at Carolina - Reality check for the Falcons
Houston at Jacksonville - Ehhhhhh, I think this game can go either way
Cleveland at Cincinnati - Somebody has to win right?
San Diego at Oakland - This just in, Kiffin to be fired next Monday!
Buffalo at St. Louis - Trent Green vs Marcus Stroud, flawless victory.
Washington at Dallas - Fuck Tony Romo
Philadelphia at Chicago - Neckbeard is not the truth

MON, SEP 29
Baltimore at Pittsburgh - Ravens kill Big Ben and Sandwhich, Dennis Dixon runs for 300 yards and 4 touchdowns.

 

[Spectral Glider]

WTF?

What is wrong with Parker? I didn't even know he was injured.

Damn, it would suck balls to lose against the Ravens. Steelers should just punt on first down and wait for Flacco to give us the game. The way I see it, neither offense is going to win the game but they can and probably will lose it.

Kiesel, Parker and Hampton are all listed as "out" for the game.

Ugh. Might as well start Dixon and just let him scramble.

 

[bionic77]

Yeah it sounds to me like this was just a preemptive benching so that Parker's knee doesn't get worse. This is not a game for fragility. Although this might be the game that finally knocks Ben out, judging by the last time they played!:lol

Not if we punt on first down!

I don't see an alternative. Any attempt of offense by either team will end in disaster, injury and bitter tears.

Though now that I think about it you need to block to give the punter time to kick the ball and I am not sure if the team as presently constructed is up to it.

And anyways, even if Ben plays it will take A LOT to knock him out of a game. Even that Bart Scott hit didn't knock him out of the game. Ben can take a shit load of punishment (and has done so in the last 2 years). For the amount of sacks he takes he has been pretty good about not missing games.

Is there any way Mendenhall can hold onto the ball against the Ravens defense?

 

[NME]

Yeah it sounds to me like this was just a preemptive benching so that Parker's knee doesn't get worse. This is not a game for fragility. Although this might be the game that finally knocks Ben out, judging by the last time they played!:lol

The last time they played, Ben sat out almost all, if not all, of the game. Week 17 last year.

Before that, Ben torched the Ravens for 5 TDs in the first half during their Week 9 game.

You're thinking 2006. Which doesn't count. It doesn't. Shut up.

Is there any way Mendenhall can hold onto the ball against the Ravens defense?

Yes, damn it. The power of positive thinking! Mendenahall will hold onto the ball and Ben will find Santonio for big gains (and hopefully TDs).

This is a happy place. Think happy thoughts.

 

[Striker]

They "torched" the Ravens for 5 quick TD's because they kept getting the ball at the 30 yard line, not to mention Baltimore had injured DB's.

It'll be a fun game to watch.

 

[NME]

They "torched" the Ravens for 5 quick TD's because they kept getting the ball at the 30 yard line, not to mention Baltimore had injured DB's.

It'll be a fun game to watch.

Well, some things don't change.

Also, with the way the Steelers' D is playing, it's not out of the question by any means that they won't enjoy the same great field position they did last year. Though, Hampton being out doesn't help.

 

[Hitokage]

We can just use the Cowboys title next week. It's not like they'll suddenly stop being insecure or anything.

11/16 Last Week, 28/47 Overall.

SUN, SEP 28
Minnesota at Tennessee - Vikings may have a good defense but so do the Titans, and Young is still out.
Denver at Kansas City - Broncos won't win, the Chiefs will lose.
San Francisco at New Orleans - Reggie Bush makes himself useful for once and helps us catch up!
Arizona at NY Jets - Just a hunch. Jets might win in spite of Favre and in spite of the Cardinals. Oh, and Cardinals need to start losing games. That too.
Green Bay at Tampa Bay - The Tampa Bay Bucs aren't as good as the Pity Party Cowboys
Atlanta at Carolina - Falcons have a good thing going, but Panthers are going to use this to come back, I think.
Houston at Jacksonville - Yes, I'm picking the Jaguars to WIN. Which now means they will LOSE. Jerks.
Cleveland at Cincinnati - Oh wow.... uh...... *flips coin*
San Diego at Oakland - A team invigorated after punching Favre in the teeth against a team with a senile loser for an owner.
Buffalo at St. Louis - No contest. Seriously this time, you Rams better not fuck up and actually start scoring like the Bengals did.
Washington at Dallas - DON'T BE FOOLED. I PICK YOUR TEAM TO WIN BECAUSE YOUR TEAM SUCKS AND I SEEK TO DISRESPECT THEM AT EVERY OPPORTUNITY.
Philadelphia at Chicago - Pretty hard to bet against an NFC East team this year.

MON, SEP 29
Baltimore at Pittsburgh - Toothless Ben still better than Ravens.

 

[hobart]

Rams trying to fix a sinking ship.... easiest and most public move is to change QBs.

...but really... I think the world knows it's not all Bulger here...

Sucks, too. I know plenty of teams that would love his services this year.

 

[sableholic]

Posted this in the old thread, but just hoping nobody saw it and someone will have a answer

anybody know a way to edit espn fantasy football league lineups for future weeks? Going to be on vacation for a little bit and it doesn't seem like there's a way to do it. I did figure out how to set my survivor league picks in advance for yahoo, but that was easy.

 

[FrenchMovieTheme]

it's going to be a shootout in new orleans. we can't pressure the QB, and new orleans has a bad defense. JTO also leads the league in passes over 25 yards, so i suspect we'll air it out and throw in some frank the tank for good measure.

niners win... and i dont care how it happens!

go niners!

 

[LiveWire]

Posted this in the old thread, but just hoping nobody saw it and someone will have a answer

anybody know a way to edit espn fantasy football league lineups for future weeks? Going to be on vacation for a little bit and it doesn't seem like there's a way to do it. I did figure out how to set my survivor league picks in advance for yahoo, but that was easy.

I don't think you can.

 

[Nakazato]

Minnesota at Tennessee : This will be a tough running game and i dont think Collins or Gus is the answer
Denver at Kansas City: It KC
San Francisco at New Orleans : Im sure Patrick Willis will get at least 3 big hits in this game but Im not sure if SF D its up to the challenge of NO Hi power Offense
Arizona at NY Jets : Bolden & Fitzgerald vs a D that gave up 43 points monday
Green Bay at Tampa Bay
Atlanta at Carolina
Houston at Jacksonville
Cleveland at Cincinnati: Well at least we know one team in the O wont be win less
San Diego at Oakland: It Oak
Buffalo at St. Louis
Washington at Dallas
Philadelphia at Chicago

MON, SEP 29
Baltimore at Pittsburgh: Even the Steelers forums are down on there o-line saying that there will b 6-9 sacks. GO RAVENS!!!!

Is there any way Mendenhall can hold onto the ball against the Ravens defense?

Ray Ray says no

While im thinking about it i guess I'm the Ravens Defense force

 

[methodman]

Minnesota at Tennessee
Denver at Kansas City
San Francisco at New Orleans
Arizona at NY Jets
Green Bay at Tampa Bay
Atlanta at Carolina
Houston at Jacksonville
Cleveland at Cincinnati
San Diego at Oakland
Buffalo at St. Louis
Washington at Dallas
Philadelphia at Chicago

MON, SEP 29
Baltimore at Pittsburgh

 

[Sumidor]

MON, SEP 29
Baltimore at Pittsburgh - Ravens kill Big Ben and Sandwhich, Dennis Dixon runs for 300 yards and 4 touchdowns.

I like the way you think.

 

[The Frankman]

SUN, SEP 28
Minnesota at Tennessee
Denver at Kansas City
San Francisco at New Orleans - 3 TDs for Brees
Arizona at NY Jets - Favre should sling more than slang... if he plays
Green Bay at Tampa Bay - Rodgers gets over his hiccup
Atlanta at Carolina
Houston at Jacksonville
Cleveland at Cincinnati - Quinn is ready, dammit!
San Diego at Oakland - Maybe this is the week Kiffin gets fired!
Buffalo at St. Louis - Trent Green = life?
Washington at Dallas - UPSET SPECIAL!!!
Philadelphia at Chicago - assuming no Westbrook...

MON, SEP 29
Baltimore at Pittsburgh - assuming Big Ben is okay... actually forget that Byron Leftwich will lead them!!

 

[Nakazato]

MON, SEP 29[/B]

Baltimore at Pittsburgh - assuming Big Ben is okay... actually forget that Byron Leftwich will lead them!!

The Statue. There a reason Jax got rid of him.

 

[bionic77]

Well, some things don't change.

Also, with the way the Steelers' D is playing, it's not out of the question by any means that they won't enjoy the same great field position they did last year. Though, Hampton being out doesn't help.

Like I said, neither offense is going to win against these defenses.

 

[Milabrega]

I'm glad Chad beat the Patriots. I'm upset i'm not still in survival, because this week seems so easy to pick....

SUN, SEP 28
Minnesota at Tennessee
Denver at Kansas City
San Francisco at New Orleans
Arizona at NY Jets - Kurt Warner is a legend.
Green Bay at Tampa Bay
Atlanta at Carolina
Houston at Jacksonville
Cleveland at Cincinnati - lol Ohio. But I'll take the team that took the super bowl champs to OT
San Diego at Oakland
Buffalo at St. Louis - 4-0 Buffalo =(. Been saying it all season, I'll say it again, they are a good team.
Washington at Dallas
Philadelphia at Chicago - Should be closer than people think with Westbrook out

MON, SEP 29
Baltimore at Pittsburgh