Official NHL CBA Conclusion thread! HOSANNAH, BITCHES

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Anyways, useless Lewis is out and Babcock is in for the Wings!

I really wasn't look forward to the Wings future as I hated and despised Lewis.

I can't help but feel sorry for the guy. He paid his dues and stuck it out as an assistant in Detroit for so many years before finally getting the chance to be the top coach; and then he just couldn't get it done. But Bowman is a tough act to follow and Detroit is not a market where the fans and owners will wait for a new coach to be broken in.

What's the reaction in Detroit like now that they've brought in Babcock, an admittedly defensive-minded coach?

If this really is a reset button I'm gonna be pissed if the Devils come out sucking. If they lose Brodeur I will be so fucking upset.

There may be some adjustments but the Devils should be fine. The "Mickey Mouse" days of the early 80's are a forgotten memory thanks to Lou Lamoriello. With Vanderbeek settling in as the owner and the Newark Arena finally under construction this franchise is secure. Not to mention prospects like Zach Parise and Travis Zajac look like the real deal.

The coaching situation will be interesting though, will they bring in another tough as nails coach like Pat Burns or a players coach like Larry Robinson? I think they should give Robinson another shot but Burns is leaving with a Stanley Cup and two striaght 100 point seasons. Interesting times ahead.
 
KilledByBill said:
I can't help but feel sorry for the guy. He paid his dues and stuck it out as an assistant in Detroit for so many years before finally getting the chance to be the top coach; and then he just couldn't get it done. But Bowman is a tough act to follow and Detroit is not a market where the fans and owners will wait for a new coach to be broken in.

I always liked Barry better
 
What's the reaction in Detroit like now that they've brought in Babcock, an admittedly defensive-minded coach?

I don't know...I live in Grande Prairie, Alberta (just moved from Calgary a year ago) :lol

And I haven't read much on it. Once the season starts I'll be reading a lot more of the forums and such.

As far as Calgary "playing like crap" for the first 2 periods...it's because Calgary's style does not include coming back from deficets. In the 3rd period, Sutter saw that he had to start something. Calgary plays extremely defensive and trap, with gratuitous amounts of clutching and grabbing. It wins them so many games, but when they are behind, not much can save them. The 3rd period shows how some of the offensive talent could shine...but Sutter never really let them go. It's the reason why Conroy is leaving...

Vancouver fans: I get the impression Crawford is the same way, just not as extreme. Naslund could have ripped it up, but didn't do so for most of the series. It was only until desperate times (being down in game 7) where it looked like he was able to do what he wanted (plus he was desperate...but he has so much unharnessed talent, the way I see it).
 
At least one person figured out I was always more anti-Leafs than pro-Sens. :lol Although Leaf fans must be pissed that the lockout probably saved the Sens from the worst roster move ever made by an elite team - trading Lalime (justifiable, to a point) and replacing him with Dominik Hasek. Still such a mind bogglingly idiotic move with no possible benefit that I'm stunned any team would do it, nevermind a team like the Sens that had made so many good trades and draft picks over the years.

Still, it's a little odd how the Leaf fans created a team-jumping rep for me. I'd love to see this huge list of teams I've rooted for! Especially considering I've always actively hated half the NHL and barely tolerated a handful of teams my whole life. I've only ever really rooted for two teams my whole life, other than liking a team when you're 9 years old because someone buys you a Guy Lafleur jersey for your birthday.


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Cheering for two teams (Flames and Sens in your case) is enough to get a place in the book of running jokes. :D That's ok, I'll always appreciate you if you bring your A game to the leaf bashing sessions here at GA. You guys will be understandably rusty at first, but it won't be long before we're crying ourselves to sleep from your witty barbs.

P.S: Leafs suck

PPS: They spend a lot of money and they're all gay

Go Kanata Sens!
 
Holy shit, nevermind the eternal conflict between what is Good and Holy and the scourge of Leafdom, it's starting to look like the NHL is really thinking about rule changes more sweeping than initially thought.
League still considering bigger nets

Bob McKenzie

7/12/2005

Imagine how a goal scorer like that Rick Nash would feel about shooting on those big net prototypes that the NHL has been considering.

I'm not here to tell you that the NHL is definitely going to use big nets for this coming season because that decision has not been made. But I am here to tell you that the door has not been closed on using those big nets in this coming season.

So much so that the NHL is checking around logistically to find out what it would take to quickly refit the existing arenas in the NHL with big nets. They're also checking to see if they can manufacture enough big nets quickly enough to be ready to go in October.

I'm not saying they will do that but the conventional wisdom is that they'll go to all the other rules changes they've got on the table and try those for a year. But if they don't work, then they may go to the big nets so the door hasn't been closed on that big net possibility for this coming season.

Also, everyone is wondering about how the ratification will be completed. Once the agreement between the NHL and the NHLPA is done, I have to believe the ratifications will either happen simultaneously or the Players' Association vote will happen before the NHL Board of Governors for the simple reason that when the NHL ratifies this, they want to put a giant bow on it. They want to say, 'the deal's ratified, the new CBA is in effect, let's do the draft lottery right now' and hear all the new rules and start turning the page to the new world.
I'd think it's much more likely the NHL would only go to be the bigger nets if the other rule tweaks didn't work, but I've always liked the idea of the bigger nets to do an end-run around a whole host of problems related to lack of offense. My dream solution will always have been a 72 game season, but the bowed net would be really cool to see too. I think they'd have to try it out in the AHL first or something, but I'd like to see it used somewhere in a game situation.

NHL orders another round

It's likely four more teams and an extra round will be included in the playoffs when the National Hockey League resumes play, the Toronto Sun has learned.

According to sources, the NHL is considering adding two more teams from each conference and a best-of-three preliminary round added to the four best-of-seven rounds that exist now.

It is expected NHL commissioner Gary Bettman will reveal the details when he announces that the owners have ended their lockout, something that could happen later this week.

The league also is considering some other significant rules changes, including adding three minutes to regular-season overtime and a three-man shootout if the teams remain tied.

These are just some of the many proposals recently put forth by Colin Campbell, NHL executive vice-president and director of hockey operations.

And although Campbell does not have the authority to institute these changes himself, his recommendations to the board of governors almost are certain to be rubber-stamped.

Under Campbell's proposals, playoff qualification would be tiered with the top 10 teams in each conference qualifying.

The teams finishing seventh through 10th would then have a best-of-three playoff, probably seventh versus 10th and eighth versus ninth.


The precise format of that playoff has yet to be determined, but it is understood that it has to be completed within six days before the next round. Once the season ends, there will be an off-day, followed by back-to-back games, probably a home-and-home matchup.

Then there will be another off-day followed by the third game if necessary. After one more off-day, the full playoffs with 16 teams playing best-of-seven series will begin.

This means a team could now need to play 31 post-season games to win the Stanley Cup, rather than the existing maximum of 28.

In his memo to the general managers explaining the rule recommendations, Campbell expressed a number of admirable aims. But he's walking a very wobbly tightrope.

He said that one of his aims was to increase the number of scoring chances while maintaining the "physicality" of the game.

He wants to let the more skilled players exhibit their talents and take away the defensive team's tools while giving them to the offensive team.

But at the same time, he proposes a two-point system that, in the eyes of some general managers, will merely encourage defensively oriented coaches to become less offensively minded than ever.

It is the league's theory that the new format will militate against defensive coaches. If the game is tied after 60 minutes, the two teams will play a five-minute, four-on-four overtime.

If nothing is settled, they will then play a three-minute three-on-three overtime. If the game remains tied, the shootout begins. The eventual winner earns two points; the loser gets none and there can be no tie games.


The league contends that the fewer players there are on the ice, the harder it is to play defence. Therefore, coaches will try to open up and win the game in regulation before being exposed to four-on-four or three-on-three.

Some GMs fear, however, that the league has underestimated the abilities -- and defensive passion -- that these coaches exhibit. No matter how few players are on the ice, the numbers are still even and a good checker still has only to break even in a one-on-one battle.

As for the shootout, the debate over the format had been solved.

Most GMs expected a five-man shooting rotation, as is the case in international hockey, but some had suggested a full 18-man rotation with every non-goalie taking a shot before any player had his second crack.

Campbell, however, prefers a three-man format, perhaps because some teams don't have five genuine snipers.


These are just some of the highlights of Campbell's proposals, but there are many other recommendations that will change the nature of the game as fans have come to know it.

The reduced size of goaltenders' equipment has been well reported. Also, goaltenders will be limited in their puck handling.

But there's also a new twist. There will be a crackdown on freezing the puck by goaltenders, removing the leeway that had crept in over the course of recent seasons.


The red line will be removed as a factor in off-side calls. Again, this is an area of contention with general managers. Some feel it will open up the game -- and if the league were awarding three points for a regulation-time win, rather than two, that might be the case.

But many GMs are worried that some coaches will just drop defenders back and set up the trap in a slightly different location, thereby making offensive forays even less frequent.

The goal line will be moved back two feet to increase the size of the neutral zone by four feet, and there will be a slight change in the role of the blue line, which has been widened.

The puck will no longer have to cross the entire blue line in order to make the play onside. Now it just has to gain the blue line.

There will, of course, be the mandatory annual crackdown on restraining fouls, and perhaps this time, with all the other changes in place, the enforcement will remain enthusiastic for more than a month.

But Campbell's recommendations include: Zero tolerance on obstruction away from the puck; a re-emphasis on slashing and cross-checking infractions; reduced tolerance on hooking and holding close to the crease; and a general increase in the teaching of the new approach to the players.

In that vein, the officials -- who will now work in established teams over much of the season -- will meet with the team captains and the coaches before each game.

The icing rule also will be changed. A number of hockey people had demanded no-touch icing in the hope of reducing injuries that seemed to be needless. Others said that the integrity of the game required a chase for the puck.

Campbell has come up with an alternative. Next season, there will be a race for the goal line, but a player doesn't have to touch the puck. The player who can first put his stick over the line will be designated as having touched the puck. Using that criterion, the linesmen will either call icing or wave it off.

To no one's surprise, the tag-up rule will be reintroduced even though some GMs, notably Glen Sather of the New York Rangers, remain opposed to it.

The rule allows play to continue even if a player has preceded the puck over the blue line. Instead of immediately whistling the play dead, linesmen will raise an arm to signal a delayed off-side.

The player or players who had entered the zone too early can come out over the blue line and "tag up", just as a baseball player must go back to the base and tag up if he wants to advance after a fly ball has been caught.

There are also some new rules governing the conduct of players, both on and off the ice.

The current instigator rule will be unchanged, with one exception. If a player gets an instigator penalty in the final five minutes of regulation time, he will be ejected and suspended for a game. His coach will be fined $10,000 US and if the league finds out that the team paid the fine (fat chance) the team will be fined $100,000. Each subsequent infraction in a season earns a doubling of the previous penalty.

Diving also is to be discouraged and it is the members of the league's hockey operations office who have the advantage of video replays, not necessarily the referee, who will determine whether an infraction has occurred.

The first incident earns a written warning. The second instance calls for a $1,000 fine and puts the player's name on a list that is to be circulated throughout the league. A third infraction calls for a $2,000 fine and further public notification.

If a player is foolish enough to get caught four times, he is suspended for a game with no right of appeal.

As for players who make derogatory comments about the game or the officials or their decisions, fines will be in order. Their magnitude is still to be determined as part of the ongoing negotiations over the collective bargaining agreement.

Two other oft-proposed changes to inhibit the game-slowing tactics of the defensively minded coaches are to be introduced.

A player who shoots the puck into the stands from his own defensive zone will receive a two-minute delay-of-game penalty. This rule has long applied to goalies so it only makes sense to apply it to the rest of the team.

Also, a team which ices the puck will not be allowed to make a personnel change.

In the past, coaches have told their players that if they're tired and under pressure, simply fire the puck down the ice.

Now, those tired players will have to stay on the ice while the other coach is allowed to send out fresh troops and get a matchup that is to his liking.

These changes form a comprehensive reformation of the game and should allow the coaches to create an entertaining spectacle.

But will they do it or will they continue to find ways around it?

We'll find out next season.

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LONGER PLAYOFFS

- 10 teams from each conference would qualify.

- The four teams seeded 7th to 10th in each conference would play a best-of-three round to be completed within six days of the end of the regular season.

- The two winners from each conference would then join the 12 other post-season qualifiers to create the current 16-team playoff.

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RULE CHANGES

Other major changes proposed:

- A three-minute, three-on-three period of overtime added in the regular season if the five-minute, four-on-four period doesn't produce a winner.

- If a game is still tied, a shootout involving three players from each team will take place until a winner is determined.

- There will be no ties. Winners get two points, losers none.

Damn, an extra round sounds... intriguing but I'm unsold. Screwing over the goalies will always get a thumbs up from me, but who were the genuises who thought up the 18 man shootout?? :lol

EDIT: the more I think about it, the better a revamped playoffs with an extra round sounds. It makes sense because usually in at least one of the conferences (normally the West, but often the East too) the 9th place team has been a very good squad that just barely missed the big dance. If the new economic system does make for increased parity though then I can imagine how the 7th to 10th place teams in each conference would have little to seperate them in the standings, so maybe a best of three would create more interest for those teams. If only they had shortened the season (even a few games guys, come on!) the extra round in the playoffs would be a wonderful idea with no downside.
 
I dunno....I'm of the opinion that adding even more playoff teams devalues the regular season quite a bit. Let me just use the MLB as an comparison for a sec. The MLB and NHL both have 30 teams....as it stands now, the NHL has 8 teams from each conference, for a total of 16, and MLB has 8 total teams in the playoffs.....now if 20 teams made the playoffs... That's crazy! I'm tired as hell, so sorry if this post has no real point, but come on! 20 fucking teams? why even have a regular season?

edit: ok here's my point two thirds of the league should not make the playoffs
 
NHL needs to cut some teams all together. Fuck the playoffs go on for too long as well.

Im saying cut the regular season schedule a bit or have the teams play more games a week.
 
Fifty said:
I dunno....I'm of the opinion that adding even more playoff teams devalues the regular season quite a bit. Let me just use the MLB as an comparison for a sec. The MLB and NHL both have 30 teams....as it stands now, the NHL has 8 teams from each conference, for a total of 16, and MLB has 8 total teams in the playoffs.....now if 20 teams made the playoffs... That's crazy! I'm tired as hell, so sorry if this post has no real point, but come on! 20 fucking teams? why even have a regular season?

edit: ok here's my point two thirds of the league should not make the playoffs
I agree that 10 teams is too many for the NHL playoffs, they should stick to 8. I think that MLB should adopt the NFL model and let 6 teams per league qualify so that more teams are still in the hunt for the playoffs later into the season so that more games mean something.
 
Gah!

I want to see more goal chances! Not necessarily more goals!

Hockey has gotten so obstructive that you only see a good 3 or so scoring chances in a period. Triple that...and the games will get more exciting.

Having the same 3 chances, but having them count as goals because the nets were so big...isn't gonna make the game more exciting.
 
Kabuki Waq said:
NHL needs to cut some teams all together. Fuck the playoffs go on for too long as well.

Im saying cut the regular season schedule a bit or have the teams play more games a week.
You think games were shitty before? Have teams play more games per week and watch it get even worse. I do agree that the league should contract though. I say 2-3 teams per conference and then they could cut the number of playoff spots.
 
Yeah, cuting the number of regular season games must be too obvious or something because only all the fans and media are for it.

There's definitely an argument against expanding the playoffs based on tradition or wanting to make the post season more eclusive and worthy a goal. For me though I look at it as there usually being a handful of teams in both conferences that are on the bubble as far as making it every year. Making them jump through an extra hoop certainly means that finishing in the top 6 is even more important than before (with that format it would be very very tough to imagine one of those teams playing those extra games in a week not be gassed for the next round, unlike a WC team in baseball) so it would reward the 12 best teams while taking those muddled teams from the 7th to 10th spot and letting them fight for the chance to prove they belong in the playoffs.

But yeah, I can see the philosophical reasons to be against it. On the surface, 20 teams making the playoffs sounds like too much, but since most fans agree that the playoffs are the best time of the year - and most fans also agree that the first round is usually the most fun - I'm ok with them expanding the field as long as those fringe teams have to do that extra round alone to "earn" it. IF it was just the top 10 teams get in and then 1v10, 2v9 etc then I'd be much less interested and I'd agree that the 10th place team didn't deserve to get there and that it would cheapen the regular season.
 
calder said:
Yeah, cuting the number of regular season games must be too obvious or something because only all the fans and media are for it.
The problem with cutting the number of regular season games is the lost revenue from those games for the teams.
 
Fuzzy said:
The problem with cutting the number of regular season games is the lost revenue from those games for the teams.

True.

But I guess that's a point for having more playoffs. Longer playoffs, and having more teams in playoffs is a good thing...financially.
 
the idea of shortening things is impractical for these financial reasons mentioned, and I'm not too keen on increasing playoff participation, where would it stop? would they continue to enlarge the number of teams that make in until the Rangers finally do? I don't want to invite that much change, the NHL makes enough changes and right now I think the NHL should just try and get back to where it left off before anything else
 
I'm of the opinion that before some of the proposed changes go ahead, they should try to fix things through other means:

Too few goals? A genuine crackdown on equipment and obstruction before jumping right to a crazy-looking net..
Disinterested fans? How 'bout bringing the game back first before expanding the playoffs?

The one thing I'm totally for is changing the overtime rule. Not sure I like a shootout, but I hate a team getting a point for an OT loss.
 
SickBoy said:
I'm of the opinion that before some of the proposed changes go ahead, they should try to fix things through other means:

Too few goals? A genuine crackdown on equipment and obstruction before jumping right to a crazy-looking net..
Disinterested fans? How 'bout bringing the game back first before expanding the playoffs?

The one thing I'm totally for is changing the overtime rule. Not sure I like a shootout, but I hate a team getting a point for an OT loss.

Supposedly the NHL will have new form-fitting jersey designs for next season. Perhaps that will cut down a lot of the clutching and grabbing that you see in the game. Goaltender equipment will be slimmed down as well.

Darcy Regier the Sabres GM was on a local sports radio station about a month ago and he mentioned that the larger nets are gaining steam. The larger regular shaped nets are being considered, the oval shaped design that was created here in Buffalo seems to have fallen out of favor.

And if you're not awarding a team a point for a loss in overtime, why even continue to use the point based system? We'd be better off going by winning percentage.
 
I don't like the extra teams getting into the playoffs, especially now that teams are going to have more evened out budgets. Before it possibly would have been nice to see a small market team that finishes 9th make the playoffs, but now all teams can compete financially(at least enough to get 8th spot in a conference) so we don't need extra spots for them.

If they were going to change anything about the playoffs they should make the semi-finals 5 games and the finals 3. It may sound odd to people that don't watch hockey, but the hockey goes downhill as the playoffs go on. But this will never happen because of money.
 
According to Fischler... ITS OVER

http://www.msgnetwork.com/content_n...ticle&sports=ice-hockey&team=other&league=nhl

The ice HAS, at last been broken!

At 8:42 a.m. I got the phone call from one of the NHL’s chief negotiators.

“It’s settled,” he said. “We worked all Tuesday night and finished it Wednesday morning.”

While there remains, as he put it, “a day or day-and-a-half of papering” still to be completed, the basic, new Collective Bargaining Agreement has been written.

“The players side still has to get a look at it before it’s officially announced but the deal is done,” one of the chief bargaining officials for the league added.
 
Bob McKenzie says Sid Crosby has been told to be ready for Thursday of next week. CBA press conf and draft lottery to be held then. :D


Sportsnet/Fan590: Draft in Ottawa on July 30th!

Only 2 weeks till the draft!! :D
 
Just to make it official
straight from the NHLPA
http://nhlpa.com/Content/Feature.asp?contentId=3473

NHLPA & NHL REACH AGREEMENT IN PRINCIPLE
Wednesday, July 13, 2005

TORONTO/NEW YORK (July 13, 2005): The National Hockey League and the National Hockey League Players' Association have reached an agreement in principle on the terms of a new Collective Bargaining Agreement. Details of the new Agreement will not be made available publicly pending the formal ratification process by NHLPA Members and the NHL Board of Governors. It is anticipated that the ratification process will be completed next week, at which time the parties will be prepared to discuss the details of the Agreement and plans for next season. No further comment will be made until then.

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and from the nhl
http://www.nhl.com/news/2005/07/230330.html
 
Manics said:
Can't wait to see Crosby suit up for the Leafs!

May the hockey Gods have mercy on my soul.

Seriously I'd shit, piss, and puke at the same time Crosby puts on a Leaf uniform. If my team isn't lucky enough to win the lottery...I'd still like to see him in the Eastern Conference. Just hope it isn't the Leafs or Rangers.
 
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honestly tho i cant wait till the real trash talking starts in oct. This offseason is gonna be insane tho.
 
I'm just steeling myself, mentally and spiritually, for the draft lottery being won by *gasp shock shock suprise* either the Kings, Rangers, Wings, Flyers (ugh!), Blackhawks or Islanders. It'll be tough to take, but try not to focus on Bettman's badly faked surprised act or his attempts to keep the smirk off his face as he announces Crosby goes to one of the big US tv markets.

Just please god not the Flyers. For me it's a toss up whether I'd hate Crosby on the Leafs or Flyers more. Shit, the Red Wings would be a terrible result too. It all depends on how they announce the odds for the draft, we know it'll be weighted against teams that always finished high in the standings the last 3 or so years to the point that the Wings/Avs/etc won't get a single ball in the lottery. *crosses fingers*

I almost don't want the Flames to get him, and I just can't imagine it happening anyway. I want Heater in Calgary. :D
 
KilledByBill said:
What's the reaction in Detroit like now that they've brought in Babcock, an admittedly defensive-minded coach?
Well Ken Holland (wing's gm) said that he told any new coach that they want him to play a wide open style so hopefully Babcock will do that. People are mostly just happy that we won't have another playoff meltdown with Lewis on the bench looking absolutely clueless as to whats going on like we have had for the past 2 years.

When the Wings were winning cups they were always playing with defense in mind anyway, they just had a crap ton of weapons to do it with.
 
Apparently Bob McKenzie has reported that the draft lottery will indeed be weighted.

-All 30 teams start off with 3 balls.
-Each playoff appearance in last 3 years you lose 1 ball.
-Subtract 1 ball for any number 1 pick in last 4 years. If team traded number 1 pick during those 4 years, it will count against them.
-1 ball per team at the very minimum.

With that being said...This is what each teams odds look like.


Buffalo - 3
Columbus - 3
New York Rangers - 3
Pittsburgh - 3
Anaheim - 2
Atlanta - 2
Calgary - 2
Carolina - 2
Chicago - 2
Edmonton - 2
Los Angeles - 2
Minnesota - 2
Nashville - 2
Phoenix - 2
Boston - 1
Colorado - 1
Dallas - 1
Detroit - 1
Florida - 1
Montreal - 1
New Jersey - 1
New York Islanders - 1
Ottawa - 1
Philadelphia - 1
St. Louis - 1
San Jose - 1
Tampa Bay - 1
Toronto - 1
Vancouver - 1
Washington - 1
 
Alright Since the CBA is done and the crazy Free agent signings are gonna start soon I think its time to recap which team you are representing.

So far these are the ppl i know

Bruin Fans
Dr. Strangelove

Canuck Fans

Bitchoptl
Mike Works
Mandark


Oiler Fans
Pohacco
dem

Leaf Fans
Dopeyfish
Fifty
Shinobi(sort of)
Kabuki Waq
Manics
BigJonsson
Kave_Man

Penguin Fans
Alucard
King Pen

Canadien Fans
Bookerman
Foreign Jackass

Sabre Fans
Kicko

Avalanche Fans
Jason
Drensch

Shark Fans
Marty Chinn

Red Wing Fans
SA-X

Islander Fans
joe

Every other Team in the NHL
Calder


Oh yea and fuck all you poser fans who said they would stop watching hockey.
 
Babcock's a defensively-minded coach. With Yzerman and half the Wings roster on the way out, you think that's gonna change while he gets used to a new roster and club? Not a freaking chance, bub, multiyear contract or no multiyear contract.

As for the agreement finally coming down.....

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Manics said:
Can't wait to see Crosby suit up for the Leafs!
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Leaf fans are already scared of me I see. :lol

Excellent. Fear leads to hate. Hate leads to, for Leaf fans, Enlightenment and Inner Peace as the cast off the shackels of a team that won't ever win shit. Yes it's a bit ironic, but the Leafers are already rooting for the Dark Side so any heel turn is a 180 to the good guys. I suggest you embrace the Sabres or maybe the Habs Kabuki, it's your only chance at redemption!
 
Drensch's crazy libertarian ideals supercede his crazy Avs love, so the new 'communistic' NHL with it's playa-hating CBA is like poison to him. I don't think we need to worry about Drensch rilling up the Nucklehead faithful much this year. :D
 
I got so used to no NHL that I need to pinch myself that it's coming back. Fuck this means I have to re-order that damn HDTV and possibly NHL Center Ice. My wife is gonna kill me considering our baby is due Dec 4th.
 
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