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Official NHL Off Season Thread
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soundwave05
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Wouldn't surprise me if we made the playoffs this year anyway.
Vancouver loses Carter, Bertuzzi, and Jovocop. They add Luongo ... but really is this any better than Florida? This team isn't a lock to make the playoffs at all.
Minnesota will move up and take Colorado's spot, in fact they might just win the division outright. Phoenix might have a shot. They still have cap room to add players, but they seem to have gone quiet after signing Jovocop.
Phoenix is probably the team we'll have to outplay.
Vancouver loses Carter, Bertuzzi, and Jovocop. They add Luongo ... but really is this any better than Florida? This team isn't a lock to make the playoffs at all.
Minnesota will move up and take Colorado's spot, in fact they might just win the division outright. Phoenix might have a shot. They still have cap room to add players, but they seem to have gone quiet after signing Jovocop.
Phoenix is probably the team we'll have to outplay.
Barrage
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soundwave05 said:If there is something about this deal that makes me laugh, it's that Dallas/Calgary/Detroit/Vancouver/SJ/Nashville, etc. are all now f*cked in the West while we develop our young core.
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I love Edmonton fans have gone from potentially cheering for the Stanley Cup Champions to pitying teams who can actually contend.:lol
Let's hope "developing your young core" lends you a good draft pick.
Crazymoogle
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KilledByBill said:
Well, a 20 million 4year contract, a conn smythe trophy, 30-15-11 season record this year would definitely place him as the team's goalie. Giguere couldn't play game one, so they brought in Bryzgalov, and like any sane team kept playing the hot hand. Montreal did it, Carolina did it.
I won't argue about further equipment rules but he's damn well a guy I'd feel comfortable to have in net. And as for Pittsburgh, well, I'm not sure any goaltender would be a good fit without a defense to back him up. Fleury is still their man as far as I'm concerned.
Mmm yeah. After your spot-on prognostications re: Lowe's ability to get value for Pronger :lol I'll just amuse myself with your attempts to spin it into something positive. But hey, draft picks are cool! And with a younger, buttery-soft version of Ziggy Palffy, you won't miss Chris on the backend at all.soundwave05 said:
Nope.
Hey, how many more players have stated publicly that they want to get the **** out of Edmonton in the past 20 minutes? Just curious.
One thing to consider is that the Ducks first round picks (both of them if you want to get theoretical) are likely going to be in the bottom 10. Hell, the conditional first rounder by definition would have to be 30th overall. Anyone really think the Ducks won't be at least as good as they were last year? I think they'll be better, and as everyone should know a 25th-ish pick in the first round gets you a guy who might be an impact player in a couple of years... or might have a long and fruitful career in the minors.
I'd much rather have the Panthers first rounder next year, that's for sure.
"Oh shit, I'm going... home?! I busted my ass off for 3 years in the Dub just so I wouldn't have to live in ****ing Edmonton! What the **** why not just trade me back to Medicine Hat!"
I'd much rather have the Panthers first rounder next year, that's for sure.
"Oh shit, I'm going... home?! I busted my ass off for 3 years in the Dub just so I wouldn't have to live in ****ing Edmonton! What the **** why not just trade me back to Medicine Hat!"
soundwave05
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I still would take our roster over yours.
Our forwards are far better than what you got left, defense is basically a wash if we resign Spacek. Luongo is terrific, but Roloson/Jussi give us solid goaltending as well.
Our forwards are far better than what you got left, defense is basically a wash if we resign Spacek. Luongo is terrific, but Roloson/Jussi give us solid goaltending as well.
soundwave05
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calder said:One thing to consider is that the Ducks first round picks (both of them if you want to get theoretical) are likely going to be in the bottom 10. Hell, the conditional first rounder by definition would have to be 30th overall. Anyone really think the Ducks won't be at least as good as they were last year? I think they'll be better, and as everyone should know a 25th-ish pick in the first round gets you a guy who might be an impact player in a couple of years... or might have a long and fruitful career in the minors.
I'd much rather have the Panthers first rounder next year, that's for sure.
"Oh shit, I'm going... home?! I busted my ass off for 3 years in the Dub just so I wouldn't have to live in ****ing Edmonton! What the **** why not just trade me back to Medicine Hat!"
Don't you live in Manitoba?
soundwave05
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The Pronger deal isn't even on the front page of ESPN.com :lol
It's like the fifth story down. No one gives a shiat down south.
Holy crap, ESPN is reporting the Bulls are getting Ben Wallace
It's like the fifth story down. No one gives a shiat down south.
Holy crap, ESPN is reporting the Bulls are getting Ben Wallace
Crazymoogle
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soundwave05 said:
Few teams are a lock for the playoffs in the west, though. I mean, Chicago, St. Louis, Columbus, and Los Angeles might be reasonably expected to miss the playoffs, and Phoenix still really needs some scoring. But every other team has a serious argument for making it, even the (cough) Avs. The teams that keep injuries low and get some surprising performances out of their young players will likely be the ones left standing.
Vancouver missed the playoffs by three points, and has dropped an inconsistent RW and a steady RW in exchange for a #1 goaltender. They've improved, and it's definitely enough for the three points. How well things mesh together depends on what RWs they sign and how they mesh, as well as how the Cloutier/Noronen situation resolves and how well touted defenseman Luc Bourdon adjusts if he makes the expected fulltime jump to the team.
I won't argue the question marks, but there's an awful lot of room for the Canucks to do well.
ForzaItalia
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toro5741 said:
I love the title with the ! "BRENDAN WITT AN ISLANDER!" So emphatic...as if they've signed a Norris Trophy Winner:lol
ForzaItalia
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bishoptl said:
My all-time favourite forward. Thanks for the memories, Steve.
I can be annoyed by so many players but never Stevie Y. How could anyone hate this guy?
Little story: It was about 1994 or so and I remember paying about $17.50 for a pack of cards from Yzerman's rookie year, O-Pee-Chee. I was with a buddy and he thought I was nuts for paying that money but I remember Cam Neely and Doug Gilmour being in there too as rookies so justified it that way.
Sure enough I pull a mint Yzerman rookie out of the pack that I still have to this day.
One of the best ever Stevie Y.
Your rocked my man.
ForzaItalia said:
Whatever...he was clearly the best defenseman left to sign, and was a guy the Isles flirted with trading for the past couple of years, and after watching their group of d-men at the end of the season (especially after Zhitnik went down) any help on the back line is appreciated.
And although I haven't seen the particulars of the contract, I doubt it's as much as the Leafs spent on McCabe...
EDIT: Farewell Steve Yzerman, one of the classiest guys who ever played. Always loved watching him play, he almost made me want to root for the Red Wings from time to time.
Hmm, Eaton sounds like a pretty good signing by the Pens. Led all Nashville players in shotblocks last season and was up there in ice time and PK time as well. I'm sure Shero knows what he's doing since he watched Eaton play for 5 seasons on the Preds.
Gonchar - Whitney
Welch - Eaton
Not a shabby pair of D lines. Then we've still got Orpik and Cairns. Odelein, Melichar, and Scuderi don't exist.
Gonchar - Whitney
Welch - Eaton
Not a shabby pair of D lines. Then we've still got Orpik and Cairns. Odelein, Melichar, and Scuderi don't exist.
soundwave05
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:lol The "TV personality" alleged to have been in the Chris Pronger "situation" is trying to sue the entire internet for defamation of character.
Don't want to say too much, as she might sue me too.
Try not BLABBING ABOUT IT to the entire city next time. It might just stay off the internet in that case.
Don't want to say too much, as she might sue me too.
Try not BLABBING ABOUT IT to the entire city next time. It might just stay off the internet in that case.
soundwave05
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No the girl he tapped isn't as hot as the Sunshine Girl there.
That girl in bishop's post is way hotter than the "alleged individual" or Pronger's wife for that matter.
That girl in bishop's post is way hotter than the "alleged individual" or Pronger's wife for that matter.
Y'know what, he could have moved to Calgary and lived here while playing in Edmonton. Jason Smith is a Calgary native and still lives here AFAIK. I saw him at the Market Mall Tip Top once. No one else recognized him, but then again that was 4 years ago or so, and back then Calgarians didn't know the sport of hockey even existed.
I think it was the CityTV sports girl.
http://www.citytv.com/edmonton/personalities_11461.aspx
I think it was the CityTV sports girl.
http://www.citytv.com/edmonton/personalities_11461.aspx
soundwave05
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Well ... all I'm going to say is to the individuals/parties involved ... the only thing achieved by threatening websites/message boards/posters with lawsuits is you're legitimizing these rumors even further.
soundwave05
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I'm watching CITY TV sports news right now. Gee, this is kind of an interesting show. Hmmm.
If this was the piece of Edmontonian ass that Chris tapped, I'd have no problem. Good for you, man. :lol
If this was the piece of Edmontonian ass that Chris tapped, I'd have no problem. Good for you, man. :lol
The Internet
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A big relief for me was seeing how estatic Joffrey Lupul was arriving at the Edmonton airport, claiming that it's "nice to play in a place where hockey matters".
Get Spacek signed quick.
Get Spacek signed quick.
soundwave05
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My personal feeling is Spacek won't resign, he's friends with Dvorak and Dvorak is going to Buffalo, who are going to overpay for Spacek.
What I think Lowe should do is hoarde cap space. I know people will hate it, but you could land someone like Lecavalier in such a situation when/if Tampa Bay realizes they're not winning another Cup with that core and need to dump salary somewhere.
This is basically how San Jose got Joe Thornton.
I know the fans won't like this in the short term, but both Carolina and Anaheim made the finals in '02 and '03 respectively and then took a step backwards the next year, but both have retooled quickly. A year or two from now you may regret paying $4+ million to Spacek ... I dunno.
What I think Lowe should do is hoarde cap space. I know people will hate it, but you could land someone like Lecavalier in such a situation when/if Tampa Bay realizes they're not winning another Cup with that core and need to dump salary somewhere.
This is basically how San Jose got Joe Thornton.
I know the fans won't like this in the short term, but both Carolina and Anaheim made the finals in '02 and '03 respectively and then took a step backwards the next year, but both have retooled quickly. A year or two from now you may regret paying $4+ million to Spacek ... I dunno.
Spacek isn't worth that much.
He was incredible when paired with Pronger (just like Bergeron and Smith were), but was merely above average to terrible when paired with Staios.
Don't get me wrong, I still want him signed... but not for anything more than 3.5
Pronger and Neids are gonna be absolutely amazing in Anaheim.
They both play ~30 minutes a game. So, at least 1 should always be on the ice during a Ducks game...crazy.
He was incredible when paired with Pronger (just like Bergeron and Smith were), but was merely above average to terrible when paired with Staios.
Don't get me wrong, I still want him signed... but not for anything more than 3.5
Pronger and Neids are gonna be absolutely amazing in Anaheim.
They both play ~30 minutes a game. So, at least 1 should always be on the ice during a Ducks game...crazy.
ForzaItalia
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Interesting. Brian Lawton went #1 that year and Tom Barrasso went #5. Other notables: John MacLean #6, Russ Courtnall #7, Cam Neely #9 and Dave Ganer #12.
Later rounds:
Claude Lemieux - 2nd round
Bob Probert - 3rd round
Esa Tikkanen - 4th round
Rick Tocchet - 6th round
Domink Hasek - 10th round
Uwe Krupp - 11th round
I'll never forget that game 7 goal against St. Louis. I remember Fuhr was owning the Wings that whole series (games 1 & 2 were both shutout wins for the Blues) so I was amazed when he let in that goal with Yzerman entering the zone and no traffic in front.
We're still in the central division though! :lol
Have you looked at the Red Wings forwards that are signed for next year? Zetterberg is going to have to carry the offense by himself for those five months when Datsyuk is on a cold streak. Not to mention that they have no starting goalie.Fight for Freeform said:
We're still in the central division though! :lol
soundwave05
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Carter wants $3 million for 3 years. Leafs and Kings are among the teams after him.
We could afford that as well.
Smyth-Horcoff-Hemsky
Pisani-Schremp-Lupul
Torres-Stoll-Carter
Man that would be sick.
Is Samsonov better or Carter?
We could afford that as well.
Smyth-Horcoff-Hemsky
Pisani-Schremp-Lupul
Torres-Stoll-Carter
Man that would be sick.
Is Samsonov better or Carter?
ForzaItalia
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soundwave05 said:
Hmmm....I've always liked both but I feel Carter will never repeat last season's scoring and Samsonov will always frustrate you with the classic "Why can't he do that every night?!" type of game.
It's a toss up IMO.
soundwave05
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Samsonov is more of a passer, Carter more of a finisher.
We could use another finisher even with Lupul on board. But with Schremp as well ... he's a scorer/shoot first ask questions later type of player too.
So we might be better off with Samsonov feeding him.
Decisions, decisions.
We could use another finisher even with Lupul on board. But with Schremp as well ... he's a scorer/shoot first ask questions later type of player too.
So we might be better off with Samsonov feeding him.
Decisions, decisions.
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