BigJonsson
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What about when Pronger wanted a trade and Burke grabbed him?
I can't remember how/when Pronger made his demand
I can't remember how/when Pronger made his demand
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Official NHL Offseason Thread of LOL Leafs and other loser teams in memory of Manics
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BigJonsson
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fallout said:
Ok, so Pronger didn't come out and demand to be traded in public first?
Mike Works
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Burke in Toronto is going to turn into a 50% funny, 50% jesus shut the fuck up thing, simply due to the amount of exposure he's now going to get being in toronto
seriously, dany heatley is rumored to be asking for one of 7 teams (the majority of them on the west coast). he has a NMC, there's no way in hell he'd want to go to the leafs.
Burke's often an answer to a question that didn't need asking... hopefully that answer provides entertainment more often than not.
seriously, dany heatley is rumored to be asking for one of 7 teams (the majority of them on the west coast). he has a NMC, there's no way in hell he'd want to go to the leafs.
Burke's often an answer to a question that didn't need asking... hopefully that answer provides entertainment more often than not.
Rapping Granny
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get rid off Heatly and his salary to bring in a couple of prospects and draft picks, use the cap space to sign the Sedins so they can play with their father (Alfredsson).
Sedins are free agents.
The Canucks have the cap space, but will have to give something up to get Heatley.
:lol Burke
I agree with him, but he's fucking hypocrite. The Pronger situation was EXACTLY the same as Heatley's. Both players demanded a trade 1 year after signing long term contracts. Both players leaked their trade demands through the media and their agents.
The Canucks have the cap space, but will have to give something up to get Heatley.
:lol Burke
I agree with him, but he's fucking hypocrite. The Pronger situation was EXACTLY the same as Heatley's. Both players demanded a trade 1 year after signing long term contracts. Both players leaked their trade demands through the media and their agents.
Mike Works
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i really see heatley going to LA, they have both the assets and the motivation to get him (ie he wouldn't cripple their team cap wise or player wise for what they'd have to give up)
KernelPanic
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Heatley is trying to pull a Hossa, it'd be nice if he'd admit it and not blame the coach for wanting to leave.
WOW at those Gogo numbers for that salary. The kids still just a green rookie.
Jeez, thats going to put Letang at 3.5 - 4 mil now...
I think we can say goodbye to Gill or Scuds now (they probably will resign scuds and let Gill walk). possibly both
Gogo is making the team now as one of our top 6 for sure.
Jeez, thats going to put Letang at 3.5 - 4 mil now...
I think we can say goodbye to Gill or Scuds now (they probably will resign scuds and let Gill walk). possibly both
Gogo is making the team now as one of our top 6 for sure.
Spectral Glider
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Kingpen said:
Yeah, I think they'll try and keep Scuds.
Spectral Glider said:
The writing was on the wall for Gill to be booted since he is older, and we have to make room for the younger guys. Scuderi almost played like a potential playoff mvp in a few of those games.
Plus Gill looked downright slow against the wings in that series. His best play was against Ovechkin, but even some of that was attributed to Scuderi being on the same line.
I'm glad Gogo will be with the top squad. It should make our PP better for sure.
Rapping Granny
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hmmm 5.25M/year is good number for them but 12 years is just insane.
pringles said:
I can't seen Green getting the Norris.... That will go to Chara.
I also agree that the Hart / Pearson will probably be split between Geno and Ovie....
Also, lol at the Sedin twins contract proposals for the 12 years.. I think it is about time they get split up. I don't see 1 team signing both of them again. Players like Z, Mike Richards, Franzen and Depietro will not be worth those long term contracts. The only player that deserves it is Ovie so far... Those guys are just a blown knee away from being a huge failure on those deals.
I think some GMs are smart to stay away from deals like those
Spectral Glider said:
I read that yesterday. He'll be making around 1.8 million a season, which automatically catapults Letang in the 3 million range after this coming season. I would like to keep Scuderi, and am hoping that he will be willing to play for less. He's solid, but I think he's being overhyped right now, just like Orpik was after The Shift.
I'm okay with losing Gill. We lost Whitney, and people were all thinking "whatever will we do?!" I will be more worried at the end of the upcoming season, once we have to re-sign Gonchar.
The Pens will be okay for years to come. Even if we lose a handful of forwards, we've got pluggers like Caputi and Thomas that can fit in just fine, and there's that Tangredi kid we got from Anaheim. Anyone know how far away he is from coming up to the NHL?
kassatsu said:
I don't... I think Gogo is in the plans for a while. Gonch is no sure thing to resign (but I think he will), and they are going to want Gogo and Letang to run the offense on the power play. Plus there are not any offensive D prospects in the system at all. All our D prospects are clones of Rob Scuderi
That 2.75 number is crazy in the third year. Getting Letang next year for .7 is ridiculously awesome for Shero. I bet he renegotiates that this offseason.
Gill, Boucher are gone this year, Eaton will probably be gone after next year to make more room for young bucks.
Orpik - Gonch
Letang - Scuderi
Gogo - Eaton /Lovejoy/Strait/Sneep
Zombie James
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scissorfight said:
:lol
I don't know. Signing Franzen and Zetterberg to shorter deals would have costed them atleast an extra 3 or 4 million in cap space every year. And that's even with the hometown discount.Kingpen said:
Because of those deals, there's a chance they can get Hossa signed up. Or at the very least they'll be able to keep an extra player or two that would otherwise have been gone.
There's obviously a risk involved, but in the case of the Mule and Z I definitely think the risk is worth the reward. If either of them get a serious injury that cuts their career short, their salary comes off the books anyway.
I personally think paying Ovechkin 9.5 million is a much bigger risk. I don't really think anyone is worth that much in the salary-cap era, but even if he is right now he will have to continue on this pace (50+ goals, 100+ points /season) in order for him to live up to his salary.
The Caps board is already losing its shit over the possibility of Malkin winning the Hart tonight. Some choice responses...
"the league can't "tamper" with this voting, can it?"
"You are all going to be shocked when malkin gets it. This will be another step in the "NBA-ization" of the nhl. They are all about rigging things and bringing in ratings and $$. Malkin winning it will create more storylines and $$$. Until he gets caught, buttman's blueprint is an exact copy of stern's blueprint pre-donaghy fiasco."
"People are already tuned in to ovie vs. Crosby, there are no gains there or marginal at best. Riding the malkin momentum is a better marketing ploy for the league and will create more buzz."
"I won't...not in the least...nothing this f'd up league does shocks me anymore..." (in response to feeling "shocked" when Malkin wins)
"If Malkin wins I think we need to protest in the street, just like the people in Iran are doing. Only thing is we will be doing it for a more important cause... <sarcastic smile>"
"Malkin will win. Bettman will smile. No one outside of Pittsburgh will be impressed."
"You are all going to be shocked when malkin gets it. This will be another step in the "NBA-ization" of the nhl. They are all about rigging things and bringing in ratings and $$. Malkin winning it will create more storylines and $$$. Until he gets caught, buttman's blueprint is an exact copy of stern's blueprint pre-donaghy fiasco."
"People are already tuned in to ovie vs. Crosby, there are no gains there or marginal at best. Riding the malkin momentum is a better marketing ploy for the league and will create more buzz."
"I won't...not in the least...nothing this f'd up league does shocks me anymore..." (in response to feeling "shocked" when Malkin wins)
"If Malkin wins I think we need to protest in the street, just like the people in Iran are doing. Only thing is we will be doing it for a more important cause... <sarcastic smile>"
"Malkin will win. Bettman will smile. No one outside of Pittsburgh will be impressed."
Crazymoogle
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pringles said:
I can't really argue; Zetterberg is likely a lifer for the Wings, and Franzen is pending his concussion risk. Plus, the Wings are historically a team that can prop up weaker, older guys due to the overall team talent.
In a more volatile team like the Canucks, we're all too aware of guys just falling off the career cliff in terms of production. Linden, Bertuzzi, Nasland, Morrison, Messier, whatever; at some point they stop working, and then the team is weighed down by their contracts. 12 years would take the twins to what, Age 41? Have we *ever* had a productive 40+ year old player on the roster? :lol
That being said...it's not like we have a long and illustrious history to fall back on for a rebuild. Sign 'em.
Plinko
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Alucard said:
Sounds like a fun bunch of people to be around.
As pringles said, I'd love to see Datsyuk win the MVP (best 2-way player in the game) but it won't happen.
I will say this, though--if Mike Green wins the Norris it will be a travesty. Chara should easily win.
Mike Works
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what??Barrage said:
pringles said:
True... just food for thought, but do you think the Islanders brass regrets starting this trend with Dipeitro ? he was on the shelf for the whole season. And don't the teams still have to take the cap hit, even if the player gets paid with insurance money?
I think Ken Holland is extremely crafty in blazing a new trail for contracts with players, but I'm still very skeptical. I would not have liked for the Pens to have signed Fleury for 12 years, thats for sure.
scissorfight
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if the player has a career-ending injury and retires the cap hit is gone for the remainder of the contract. (assuming it's signed before age 35). if the player retires for any reason, the cap hit is gone. if the player is just on LTIR, the cap hit isn't gone technically, but the team is allowed to go over the cap by that amount with replacement salary until the player comes off of LTIR.Kingpen said:
the key to deals structured like this is probably the retirement age. Z had stated publicly that he only wants to play until ~36, and doesn't want to play until he's 40. if he sticks to that, the deal likely ends up looking brilliant. if he ends up riding the contract til the end, that $6M cap hit for a 40yr old center would probably be pretty brutal.
franzen...who knows how long he wants to play. another factor is that once they get around to those ~1M actual salary years tacked on at the end, they've already made the majority of their money. there's not as much reason to 'hang around' to collect the cash of your current contract.
Crazymoogle
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:lol Coyotes bankruptcy deadline could be extended, Balsillie looking to renew his bid...circus train is starting up again. :lol
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