BishopLamont
Banned
When the fanboys can't attack the sales, they attack the consoles library. Pretty pathetic.dammitmattt said:
Step up or shutup.Amir0x said:
Official October 2008 NPD Results
- Thread starter sonycowboy
- Start date
dammitmattt
Banned
BishopLamont said:
I'm all for attacking the 2008 Wii lineup, but this is kind of the wrong thread to do that.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
Speevy said:
I thought we were discussing which game had a greater impact in the industry, not which game got the most accolades.
There's a difference.
Aaron Strife
Banned
What is it, 21 third party games and 15 first party?HK-47 said:
First Party
- Super Mario Galaxy
- Super Smash Bros. Brawl
- Mario Kart Wii
- Metroid Prime 3
- Twilight Princess
- Super Paper Mario
- Pokémon Battle Revolution
- Wii Sports (it's sold over a million in Japan right?)
- Big Brain Academy
- Mario Party 8
- Wii Play
- Wii Fit
- Wario Ware Smooth Moves
- Mario Strikers Charged
- Link's Crossbow Training
Third Party
- Guitar Hero 3
- Sonic and the Secret Rings
- Carnival Games
- Mario & Sonic
- Resident Evil 4
- Resident Evil: UC
- Lego Star Wars
- Red Steel
- Rayman RR 1
- Rayman RR 2
- Game Party
- Deca Sports
- MySims
- High School Musical
Hm... Stumped on the rest.
BishopLamont
Banned
Crap nevermind.Aaron Strife said:
andthebeatgoeson
Junior Member
Did we get word on if Ninty sold more games this month?
And is this thread an good indicator of where system wars are headed? 'Doesn't matter how many games Wii sells, they all are shite.'
And is this thread an good indicator of where system wars are headed? 'Doesn't matter how many games Wii sells, they all are shite.'
Shin Johnpv
Member
legend166 said:Man, I hope the future of gaming isn't user created content and levels
I soooooooooooooooooooooo agree with this.
I don't want a focus on user created content, nor do I want to make content for games for free.
DeaconKnowledge said:
Does not compute.
Ps. if we're talking about sales...was LBP really on sale for only 4 days? In a time when noone knew when the hell the game was coming out. I doubt the retailers even counted the copies they sold early, because they weren't allowed to sell those copies - new ones had to be sent out.
Private Hoffman
Banned
The core LBP platforming is great. The story made levels are brilliantly designed for the mechanics, and they get progressively more difficult. Acing the levels takes a lot of hardwork and dedication, and playing through them to get all the stickers in 4 player co-op is an absolute blast.
Nothing run of the mill at all.
I still haven't made a level yet. That GAF thread has some ridiculous levels already.
Nothing run of the mill at all.
I still haven't made a level yet. That GAF thread has some ridiculous levels already.
Has this been posted?
http://www.gamespot.com/news/6201179.html?tag=latestheadlines;title;2
Guitar Hero World Tour
Xbox 360 -191,049
Wii - 182,845
PlayStation 3 96,657
PlayStation 2 63,462
Rock Band 2
Xbox 360 119,569 (483k LTD)
PlayStation 3 118,559
Rock Revolution
Xbox 360 1,442
PlayStation 3 816
DS 666
http://www.gamespot.com/news/6201179.html?tag=latestheadlines;title;2
Guitar Hero World Tour
Xbox 360 -191,049
Wii - 182,845
PlayStation 3 96,657
PlayStation 2 63,462
Rock Band 2
Xbox 360 119,569 (483k LTD)
PlayStation 3 118,559
Rock Revolution
Xbox 360 1,442
PlayStation 3 816
DS 666
Private Hoffman
Banned
Fredescu said:
I don't think the game was released on the Wii/DS.
_Alkaline_
Member
Accident said:
Wow. Rock Revolution bombed. :lol
Interesting GH:WT sales, pretty low overall I must say. I guess the price must be a big factor.
Expect the Wii version to gradually overtake the 360 version. It's what happened with GHIII and I expect the same to happen here.
Private Hoffman
Banned
Were there any MotorStorm 2 sales?
They got what they deserved for trying to compete with Guitar Hero and Rock Band. Market is saturated enough as it is.
BorkBork said:
They got what they deserved for trying to compete with Guitar Hero and Rock Band. Market is saturated enough as it is.
Rock RevolutionAccident said:
I mean, I'm sure it's a terrible game, and I know it came out at practically the worst possible time and offered no compelling reason to buy it, but I feel so bad for Konami considering they used to own the rhythm game segment and I hate to see them lose money on something like this. At least they can take solace in the DS sales.
GH:WT should have some pretty good legs. It's not going to sell like GHIII--it wasn't going to anyway, with the economy in the shitter and a significant percentage of its userbase migrating to Rockband--but it was only out for a few days in October and from what I can tell word-of-mouth on the game from casuals is generally positive._Alkaline_ said:
Captain Smoker
Member
Hmmm, that doesn't fit with gamasutra's Top20.Accident said:
Rock Band 2 [360] isn't included, but the PS3 - version is #16?
It really was an annoying argument which fortunately finally died in the third year of the DS. In the case of the Wii though, I believe it will take a bit longer to find acceptance, since fanboys are always a bit more emotional when it comes to home consoles.DeaconKnowledge said:
_Alkaline_ said:
It is as much 3rd parties' fault as it is Nintendo's. Had Nintendo been as obsessive about 3rd party support as Microsoft, Wii would have the most AAA games in development by now. Helping developers of most promising titles, financing marketing campaigns or simply moneyhatting are all strategies that competition have been successfully using for years. It's incredible that 360 with its very slow start managed to gain support of basically all 3rd party developers. But as of now Nintendo hasn't even bothered to change the situation.
They have, of course, the most popular console ever even despite that, so 3rd parties will eventually try something, but Nintendo should really encourage these baby steps with their own money to accelerate the process.
But is one title enough to create a strong a reliable market for hardcore games that would convince publishers to devote a significant part of their businesses to AAA Wii games? Especially since the game's relevant in one region only. Of course, Wii will have more than MH3, but it all feels too slow, too little.Balb said:
timetokill
Banned
Accident said:
Thank goodness, that should be the last we see of Rock Revolution. The sad thing is Konami will probably never understand their screw-up. They probably will think this proves Americans don't like music games, just like they proved long ago when their other crappy ports of Japanese music games didn't sell.
Crappy song selection + only covers + cheap drums + horrible vertical scrolling = please do not ever make this game again, Konami.
BishopLamont
Banned
Konami really needs to work on their marketing department. That's an atomic bomb of epic proportions.Accident said:
The GameSpot data is very troubling. I am not sure what's going on.
It should be noted that GameDaily reported the same rankings that we received from NPD. I am of the impression that GameDaily receives the top 20 directly from NPD, and was going by what they received, not what we put on Gamasutra.
I have double checked the spreadsheet I received from NPD over and over and over. Let me quote what it says:
Every music game on the list has an asterisk. Below the list it says this:
The only way this could still be right and the total figures given by GameSpot right as well is if we take the word "Guitars" literally and somehow the "Full Band" bundle was counted separately. Anyone else have some solutions?
Edit: I just went to check the earlier MTV report, and it now says this:
Edit 2: Meant to say that incorrect figures to MTV makes me wonder if I also got bum information. Or GameSpot? Or...
Edit 3: Wait, this whole problem goes away if that's really Rock Band 2 for Xbox 360 at #16, right? I think that must be the error.
Edit 4: No, that's not the problem. Sorry. If Rock Band 2 Xbox 360 and Rock Band 2 PS3 had essentially equal sales, they should both be above GHWT PS3. This is so broken.
It should be noted that GameDaily reported the same rankings that we received from NPD. I am of the impression that GameDaily receives the top 20 directly from NPD, and was going by what they received, not what we put on Gamasutra.
I have double checked the spreadsheet I received from NPD over and over and over. Let me quote what it says:
Every music game on the list has an asterisk. Below the list it says this:
The only way this could still be right and the total figures given by GameSpot right as well is if we take the word "Guitars" literally and somehow the "Full Band" bundle was counted separately. Anyone else have some solutions?
Edit: I just went to check the earlier MTV report, and it now says this:
Edit 2: Meant to say that incorrect figures to MTV makes me wonder if I also got bum information. Or GameSpot? Or...
Edit 3: Wait, this whole problem goes away if that's really Rock Band 2 for Xbox 360 at #16, right? I think that must be the error.
Edit 4: No, that's not the problem. Sorry. If Rock Band 2 Xbox 360 and Rock Band 2 PS3 had essentially equal sales, they should both be above GHWT PS3. This is so broken.
HocusPocus
Member
Great sales for 360 and Wii. Never thought I'd see the PS3 do this bad. Fable 2 deserves it, and congrats to Peter M. for the success. 
Just a subjective impression. Went to pick up a Fallout 3 (360 version) copy yesterday. Best Buy was out, Circuit City was out, Target was out, Gamestop was out. Had to buy a used copy at Gamestop (they had two available). Seems to have sold well. All places had Fable 2 available.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
tabsina said:
NPD also has single-digit sales for a number of select imports sold by tracked retail partners, as well as single-digit sales for certain titles that were Wal-Mart exclusive but magically ended up being sold as new at a tracked retail partner.
Some retailers also mis-SKU budget packs and 2-in-1s. Pretty much every NPD sheet (not that I've seen many--I have no non-public sources and have only seen data that has leaked to the public on large, major, publicly-accessible sites) has "Budget Pack" with two digits of sales or "Budget Asst." with one or two digits of sales. It's never been clear to me what these labels actually refer to or which retailer does them.
DeaconKnowledge
Member
Fredescu said:
I'm a quarter of the way through it on my Friend's PS3. It's a definite step back from almost everything we've seen in San Andreas minus the graphics, which are amazing. I'm not saying it's a bad game, but it's a clear case of a game that got its score based on name recognition and hype rather than the actual gameplay.
GTA4 HAD to get a ten, lest the gaming media get eviscerated by the public, much like Gerstmann did for his TP review (Which I thoroughly believe was the right score to give the game in the end anyway.)
Opus Angelorum
Member
I never like to say that a game deserves to sell poorly, but quite honestly Konami what did you expect with Rock Revolution.
TheGreatDave
Banned
I hope Rock Revolution still makes it to Europe!
Opus Angelorum
Member
TheGreatDave said:
With those sales numbers your hope will need to be be both long and sustained.
TheGreatDave
Banned
Opus Angelorum said:
Neither of those are my strong suits.
manueldelalas
Time Traveler
Neo C. said:
Quoted for truth, I really hated when people bitched that some DS games didn't utilize the touch screen, second screen and/or the microphone. It looked like they didn't realize that the DS also had as a standard option a D-Pad, 4 face buttons and two shoulder buttons.
The Wii has the same advantage for developers; the Wii has as a standard a motion controller with a D-Pad, A-B buttons (look how TP used those, genius), the 1-2 buttons, plus the pointing device, plus the Nunchuck which is also a motion controller with an analog stick plus Z-C button.
Developers have the option to use all of this or none.
The aspect that really makes me happy about the Wii is the return of light gun shooters, even if those only use the pointing thing and one button.
The same happened to me with DS, the point and click genre returned because of it (now, where is my "Awesome SCUMM collection" Lucas Arts??).
Opus Angelorum
Member
TheGreatDave said:
Great pain and disappointment, I sense.