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[Rummy Bunnz]

My first impulse was to agree that the player should have been able to earn money, rather than just additional unlocks, by playing VS matches. Then I thought about how easily that could be abused (see Hito's posts earlier in the thread). Letting VS matches count towards unlocking but not giving the player cash for this mode seems like a fair compromise - you're getting something for your time, but it's not possible to earn everything with an autofire controller. (Not that it matters now that people have discovered that infinite money glitch, but still.)

Who cares if it's easily abused? Who's it going to bother? No one's going to sell their copy of SC3 cuz they used an exploit to unlock everything the first night they got it. And your game isn't going to be ruined because someone else cheated 2 win theirs.

People shouldn't have to slog through a mode they don't like so they can fully enjoy a mode they do. To me it's one of the great flaws of modern console games. I'm really, really tired of having to thoroughly play a game in single player to unlock stuff for multi. (Especially when it's an online game and the stuff you unlock gives you an advantage over other players -- I loved Phantom Dust, but I gave up on it because I didn't want to play the dull as dirt single player just so I could be competitive online.)

I don't think the no money thing is a fair compromise. It would be silly if you had to play multi just so you could buy stuff for solo play, and I think it's only slightly less silly to require the opposite in SC3. In a game that focuses on both single and multiplayer the only fair compromise would be allowing the player to unlock all content by playing the mode of their choice.

 

[Lyte Edge]

Rummy Bunnz hit it right on the head with that last post. Extras are nice, but it would be better to have extras that aren't related to the game play, such as unlockable outfits and art galleries, rather than always having to unlock characters and play modes before the entire game is available to you.

It's great to have single player content in fighting games, but when a new fighter comes out, I want it to at least have all the regular characters available from the start. When Tekken 5 was released, it was a chore to have to unlock all the characters before we could start playing multiplayer. True, it didn't take that long, but it was still annoying to have to wait a little while to have all the characters playable nonetheless. The accessories and outfits you can unlock by earning money for I can understand, but characters and extra game play modes? Those need to be available from the beginning.

It's really only Namco and Midway that do this with their fighting games, however. You generally don't see this with 2D fighting games (other than Marvel Vs. Capcom 2), and games like Virtua Fighter and Dead Or Alive don't do this, either.

Korean site Videogamerx
http://videogamerx.gamedonga.co.kr/bbs/view.php?id=usernews&no=4808

seems like there will be sc3 for xbox360
any news?

No news that I've seen, but apparently EGM is saying the same thing. If this is true, that means no more slowdown and hopefully online play.

 

[ElyrionX]

Are you really finding CotS frustrating? I haven't had any problems with it so far, though I'll admit I'm pretty early into it (just completed Chronicle 7).

I'm at Cronicle 4 I think and it's not frustrating because it's hard. It's frustrating because of the damn load times and the inane gameplay.

 

[Demigod Mac]

My thought is to borrow a memory card reader and download a 100% SC3 save.

Screw playing CotS.

 

[Future]

Heh, looks liked I'm not gonna beat Chronicles mode. I'm at 20 and I'm officially not having fun anymore. Probably stopped having fun long ago, but now it's finally sunk in. Nothing but unfair handicaps that are a pain in the ass to retry after failing, and I'd rather just bash my head in the sharp corner of by desk.

Is it worth finishing 20? Do you get anything that's impossible to get otherwise. I can live without an end movie if there is one.

What's funny is that I started playing the other modes the next day and I'm starting to like the game again. Fuck Chronicles.

 

[januswon]

In Japan, Famitsu PS2 No. 12/9 will attach a SC3 Playable Special Disk
4 playable characters (incl. new characters) plus story mode, versus mode, character creation mode

i think will try this and buy the ps2 sc3 first
if xbox360 version is out, will buy as well

 

[Anyanka]

Is it worth finishing 20? Do you get anything that's impossible to get otherwise. I can live without an end movie if there is one.
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You get the boss playable, but you'll eventually get him just by playing enough games.

The only hard part about 20 is the boss. Don't even fight the other guys manually. Just have your group gang up on them one by one on the map. If you lose you'll go up in levels anyway so after a few tries they'll have high enough levels to go through to the boss easily.

 

[ArcadeStickMonk]

My thought is to borrow a memory card reader and download a 100% SC3 save.

Screw playing CotS.

You can borrow mine. Still got the SC3 save on it.

 

[Hitokage]

BTW, I should point out that the only things not unlocked for immediate use by my Yun-Seong Vs. Thousands session were Create-A-Character related, and a couple modes that can be bought with the money earned from one or two runs of ToS.

Weapon disciplines MUST be gotten through CotS, although you can get the majority of weapon/armor shop items with Scrooge's Moneybin alone. Ok, that's still a shitload. Even though I actually earned money as I went along (originally starting with 170k but eventually had 500k per run).. it still took like 25-30 itterations of the money glitch to get everything.

 

[Anyanka]

You can get weapon disiplines without playing any one player mode. I think the only thing you can't unlock by playing tons of games is Night Terror's profile, the Night Terror Soul Arena fight and the Ancient weapons. Even then they might unlock after a while.

 

[Hitokage]

You can get weapon disiplines without playing any one player mode. I think the only thing you can't unlock by playing tons of games is Night Terror's profile, the Night Terror Soul Arena fight and the Ancient weapons.

I mean weapon disciplines, not character jobs. They requre leveling up characters to levels 10, 20 and 30 in CotS.

Even then they might unlock after a while.

Unless Namco hid stuff above the 3000 battle mark, they don't.

 

[ElyrionX]

I mean weapon disciplines, not character jobs. They requre leveling up characters to levels 10, 20 and 30 in CotS.

Nope. You can unlock them by playing VS. matches with the custom characters. Every 25 matches with a custom character will unlock the next weapon discipline in that custom character's class.

 

[Hitokage]

Nope. You can unlock them by playing VS. matches with the custom characters. Every 25 matches with a custom character will unlock the next weapon discipline in that custom character's class.

Oh, WITH a custom character. That's quite a bit different from the total battle count used in unlocking nearly everything else.

Well then...

 

[ElyrionX]

Oh, WITH a custom character. That's quite a bit different from the total battle count used in unlocking nearly everything else.

Well then...

There's a hard and fast way to do this:

1. Set number of rounds in VS. Standard to 1
2. Create two custom characters of the same class
3. Go into VS. and select the first custom character for 1P and second custom character for 2P
4. Set 2P's health to 0%
5. Enter the match and kill off 2P with one hit
6. Do this repeatedly until 1P has accumulated 50 wins.

By 50 wins, you should have unlocked all the disciplines for the custom character class. It takes 25 matches to unlock one discipline but in this case, since both players are using the same custom character class, it actually counts as two matches (one win one lose) for the custom character.

 

[Hitokage]

Tested it now. Sorry for before.

...although you only needed to tell me it counts per character used.

 

[ElyrionX]

Tested it now. Sorry for before.

...although you only needed to tell me it counts per character used.

Yeah, I know. Just providing a more detailed description for people who need it.

 

[Shouta]

So it's 75 battles for all disciplines for a class? I like CotS for that then. Can get to 30 in CotS in like 20-30 minutes pretty easily once you have practice with the moveset and a good weapon for that moveset (such as ones that have life regeneration or life drain)

 

[Hitokage]

So it's 75 battles for all disciplines for a class? I like CotS for that then. Can get to 30 in CotS in like 20-30 minutes pretty easily once you have practice with the moveset and a good weapon for that moveset (such as ones that have life regeneration or life drain)

100 normally. The Soul-Of disciplines aren't in a bundled package.

...and it takes 8-10 minutes at most.

 

[Shouta]

If you're using a rapid-fire controller sure =p.

 

[Hitokage]

If you're using a rapid-fire controller sure =p.

It doesn't take rapid-fire to perform one-hit victories and skip the rest, you know.

 

[Shouta]

loading =p.

 

[Hitokage]

loading =p.

Protip: Select "Retry" after you win.

 

[Future]

Just got the memory card is corrupt message. Now I can't load or save data. I had unlocked every character, most weapons, character classes, etc. Even busted my head through a wall to get through the incredibly crappy Chronicles mode. Now the data is gone, by no fault of mine. Even turned off auto-save when I first bought the game to protect against this after reading posts here. Auto-save is not the problem.

This game is officially bullshit. Sellin this shit tomorrow

 

[ArcadeStickMonk]

Future, that really sucks. But thanks for the heads up.

I'll use the Pro Replay I bought to skip the unlocking process to backup my digital harem. Cannot lose my digital harem.

 

[Anyanka]

Has anyone been following some of the glitches and broken stuff that's been found already? Like canceling the recovery from getting GIed and canceling moves that you shouldn't be able to. What is wrong with Namco's testing...

 

[ThirstyFly]

I've read that if you get the corrupt data message, putting in another memory card into slot 1 and saving from the menu will allow you to keep your save. Sounds like it's too late for you though, sorry

 

[HomerSimpson-Man]

Has anyone been following some of the glitches and broken stuff that's been found already? Like canceling the recovery from getting GIed and canceling moves that you shouldn't be able to. What is wrong with Namco's testing...

No arcade revision to go through. Looks like good things come to those who wait in regards to Europe probably.

 

[Future]

I've read that if you get the corrupt data message, putting in another memory card into slot 1 and saving from the menu will allow you to keep your save. Sounds like it's too late for you though, sorry

Yeah, I remember reading that too. Didn't have an extra memory card...the one precaution I DIDN'T take.

This wouldn't be so bad if the game didn't have so much gameplay related shit to unlock. What really sucks is that I had finally played so many matches that I was unlocking shit like the Soul Calibur weapons regularly, and had finally got the sword master creation class the moment I last tried to save.

Possibly the worst bug ever. I've NEVER seen games just fuck up memory card saves on there own without you causing it somehow (3rd party memory card, removing it while saving, etc). In a game with so much to unlock a bug like this is just unnacceptable. Maybe it has to do with all the shit that is saved with such a small memory footprint. The SC3 save is like 300 kb, yet somehow it saves Chronicles Mode progress with 3 slots, 8 create a characters in chronicles mode, custom outfits for all the story characters in Chronicles, Color edits for all Main Characters, 8 custom characters in regular mode, and exactly what you unlocked when it comes to the hundred or so weapons and the hundreds of armor pieces.

After calmly grinding my teeth away for the last hour, I decided to just snag a copy of someone elses save that would hopefully have many of the characters unlocked. Don't know if this bug is Chronicles related or not, but that's where I got it. That mode is not fun enough to play at all, let alone risk fucking up your save for. Be warned.

 

[Demigod Mac]

Wonder how long it'll be before there's a 100% complete save file on the 'net. Or a OPM Replays section with a 100% SC3 save for download....

 

[ArcadeStickMonk]

Wonder how long it'll be before there's a 100% complete save file on the 'net. Or a OPM Replays section with a 100% SC3 save for download....

like about two weeks ago

 

[Finaika]

Is this file corrupt thingy a Namco problem? I remember ppl complained abt it in Tekken 5 too, and just last week when I played Ace Combat 5 I got the "Unable to save file corrupt" message...

 

[Finaika]

Just got my copy today. Played for about 4 hours. SCIII is AWESOME.

 

[ThatCrazyGuy]

Just on a side note on this corrupted save stuff. My Tekken 5 save got corrupted too somehow has well. It happened in the versus screen. Way gay. I lost all my money

O yea, SCIII rocks ur socks.

 

[karlikk]

Just got the memory card is corrupt message. Now I can't load or save data. I had unlocked every character, most weapons, character classes, etc. Even busted my head through a wall to get through the incredibly crappy Chronicles mode. Now the data is gone, by no fault of mine. Even turned off auto-save when I first bought the game to protect against this after reading posts here. Auto-save is not the problem.

This game is officially bullshit. Sellin this shit tomorrow

I just got the same message, i hate namco for this, so many wasted hours unlocking shit...