Oh God, my school is drug testing
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Poimandres
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The problem is it can stay in your system for months. Lets say you take a holiday from work for a couple of weeks, should you be able to smoke then? If you allow a good few days before you return to work? That should seem reasonable, but it's not at all reflected in the tests.
Hale-XF11
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I don't understand. I have an adsense account with ads that have been running on a weed related site for years now with no problems whatsoever. Are there certain exceptions?
Kite
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While deployed, soldiers aren't allowed to consume alcohol and we are always drug tested. People generally don't want stoners or drunks handling weapons with live ammo, so why would you want them handing your prescriptions and putting your lives in their hands? Is alcohol worse than weed? Probably, almost certainly imo. In the 3.5 years I've been with my unit I've seen almost a dozen careers ruined by DUIs, sexual and domestic violence and one death where alcohol was involved. But just because one big evil isn't banned doesn't mean I'm willing to let a lesser one go.
If you want to have a position of responsibility and power over others, get used to being held to a higher standard. I don't give a shit if my garbage man or some Hollywood actor tokes up, but I do care if my surgeon does or that blackhawk pilot who I have to trust to fly me back to the FOB safely through hostile fire.
If you want to have a position of responsibility and power over others, get used to being held to a higher standard. I don't give a shit if my garbage man or some Hollywood actor tokes up, but I do care if my surgeon does or that blackhawk pilot who I have to trust to fly me back to the FOB safely through hostile fire.
Can't believe you're still carrying on like this. You don't realize the market for buds in BC and Cali and Colorado among other med. states/provinces. All of my bud is locally produced by someone I've known for so many years I've lost count. He's a medical grower who grows only for certain patients. He's not some guy who secretly affiliated with some underground criminal group. I also get it at a dispensary in Vancouver. A non profit society that puts any money made back into the business they run. They don't funnel some of it off to another country so some guy can bomb people.
Do you even realize what you're saying by telling us we don't know where it came from? You think people can't tell when something has been imported? You clearly don't know the difference between good and bad weed otherwise that point wouldn't have even been brought up.
Not everyone buys bricked weed from a crack house. I'm not sure if you realize how different it is in other parts of the world when it comes to the cannabis market. You should be doing some research on it.
Silphonica
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Cannabis is fat soluble. The more you smoke it the longer it stays in your system, sometimes it takes longer than 30 days ( a lot, longer) to leave your system. I'm sure i'm not the first to post this either. Besides, it's not like you'll really get much warning anyway.
It's funny though, 'harder' drugs users such as ampthetamine and ecastacy use, don't normally last in you system for a week.
Enter The 36 Chambers
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Its pretty ironic that the anti drug people in here insinuate that stoners are morons, when the majority of them posting in here are saying some of the dumbest shit I've ever read.
I had a friend who used Niacin + Lots of coffee to beat a piss test within 24 hours. Of course, in the process he OD'd on Niacin and his skin turned orange.
True story.
Zoe
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I'm going to assume that I didn't read enough of this thread.......
Good point.
Yeah, the OP finally clarified much later that his nursing school is testing the entire student body to be fair to those who are being tested by the hospitals during their clinical rotations.
I think I'm caught up and understand the scenario here, and thus this comment isn't really related, but:
If this were in a public school, I believe that any mandatory drug test of an entire student body (not a subset applying for a special group, extracurricular activity or event) would constitute an illegal search in violation of the Fourth Amendment. The last ruling in this wheelhouse in 1995 theoretically opens the door for this kind of thing, but to my knowledge it has never been challenged in court. For the record, I would refuse any such test without regard for consequence. Our society was born, grew out of infancy, and lurches painstakingly forward on the will to be free. Progress is slow and often costly, but accepting any invasion of civil liberty, anything of this nature no matter how harmless the encroachment may seem, is a step backward.
If this were in a public school, I believe that any mandatory drug test of an entire student body (not a subset applying for a special group, extracurricular activity or event) would constitute an illegal search in violation of the Fourth Amendment. The last ruling in this wheelhouse in 1995 theoretically opens the door for this kind of thing, but to my knowledge it has never been challenged in court. For the record, I would refuse any such test without regard for consequence. Our society was born, grew out of infancy, and lurches painstakingly forward on the will to be free. Progress is slow and often costly, but accepting any invasion of civil liberty, anything of this nature no matter how harmless the encroachment may seem, is a step backward.
You know you're a terrorist to the vegetal world, according to Elsk, right? And the lighter you're using was made with the sweat and blood of... I don't know, maybe 10000 children?
C'mon, how can someone equate marihuana users to terrorists, and say that with a straight face?
Yes, they need consent. But if your parents don't consent, you're not allowed to participate in the activity. You have no right to be on a school team or join an after-school activity.
I thought it was hip to be square.
CommonSense
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Not sure if it was noted but if you're in high school you're too young to be so involved in drugs that this concerns you.
And no generally you do not get a 30 day warning before a drug test, you typically get 48 hours.
I would suggest you cut the shit out now and smoke pot in college like the rest of us, you whippersnapper.
And no generally you do not get a 30 day warning before a drug test, you typically get 48 hours.
I would suggest you cut the shit out now and smoke pot in college like the rest of us, you whippersnapper.
Zoe
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He's in nursing school.
AppleSmack
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Time to go to rehab.
CommonSense
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Enter The 36 Chambers
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I wouldnt call smoking a joint every now and then getting fucked up. Its a relaxer more than anything. Getting fucked up would be finishing a bottle of hennessy, falling down the stairs and puking on yourself.
Vastly different things.
But im sure in healthcare no one drinks after work or the night before right?
POWERSPHERE
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Rights, hey.
CommonSense
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Bad news for him is every hospital I deal with is adopting a 0 tolerance for smoking cigarettes, drugs, and 1 even randomly tests for blood alcohol levels.
Hell, one of the best in the area, the Cleveland Clinic, won't even HIRE you if you get popped for being a smoker, much less doing drugs.
Twenty7KVN
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Well It depends on what kind of weed he's smoking and what it's laced with.
LaserBuddha
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LOL laced.
I've smoked a bajillion different kinds of weed of all quality levels and never gotten anything "laced".
Anyone else got anything their parents told them about marijuana that needs to be dispelled?
SmackDaddy
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this post nails it
Osiris
I permanently banned my 6 year old daughter from using the PS4 for mistakenly sending grief reports as it's too hard to watch or talk to her
Umm, I've smoked weed (and hash) too for over 25 years and I've had plenty of laced stuff, sometimes unpleasantly so (smack-laced weed is common in some areas).
And some strains of weed have now been designed (via cross pollination) to easily be mildly hallucinogenic and unsuitable for someone working in a position of responsibility.
Not buying that for the very simple reason that weed is pretty much the cheapest drug there is. What kind of an idiot dealer would use his more expensive product to lace his cheapest and least profitable?
Osiris
I permanently banned my 6 year old daughter from using the PS4 for mistakenly sending grief reports as it's too hard to watch or talk to her
It's not laced at the point of distribution, it's laced at the point of production to create a stronger product, often the compounds used are the byproducts of heroin production and unsaleable as product itself so is used at no cost to the producer. If you live in a country where most product is grown within your own borders this is unlikely to happen, but there's still plenty of trafficked product from other countries where this can be the case and not all countries rely on, or have the climate, to rely on homegrown rather than traffiked product.
I'm not sure in which direction you are attempting to sway this argument and I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt based on your anecdotal experience, but let's be clear:
All strains of weed are mildly hallucinogenic. Weed is a mild hallucinogen. Strains also tend to have either stimulant or depressant qualities but many of these fall under subjective effects. No strain of marijuana is suitable for consumption on-duty by someone working in a position of responsibility in the sense that it impairs cognitive function. In a similar vein, no brand of alcohol is suitable for consumption in such a position either.
I would counter your anecdotal claim of "plenty of laced stuff" with my experience of none, ever. Lacking statistics of course, from a pragmatic standpoint it seems completely bizarre for anyone to sell as the odds of getting repeat customers as a result of selling something with unintended effects are quite low.
edit: Just read the distribution vs. production lacing post. Point taken as the seller would be unaware of the product's nature.
dark_chris
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Drugs are bad, dont do it. =p I never done it before, especially in cases like that just happens.
Enter The 36 Chambers
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How do you know if youve never tried it? Dont believe everything you hear. Make up your own mind.
Delusibeta
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I believe that's what the "=P" is for. In any case, if you're training to work in a hospital, drugs are bad (for your future career), so don't do it.
Correct, that's how it is for all health care fields. Not only are you dealing with patients, but the idea is that if you can't measure up to the law then you aren't capable of measuring up to the more strict ethical standards that are required of you as a health professional.
GungHo
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You know, I know good and well some of my guys light up at nights and on the weekend. I tell them their life is their business, and as long as they're not fucked up on the job, and they don't go to jail, I don't care. However, when you join the company (as with many companies, athletic programs, and post-secondary schools), you sign a little form that provides express consent/notice that you may be randomly tested.
Now, I've never actually seen them come around and give a piss test to anyone in a non-operational job unless someone gets hurt on the job. That being said, they can always decide that everyone is gonna go pee, without warning. And, if that happens, I'm not fighting for your job, because you fucking knew you were taking the risk, and you lost.
Now, I've never actually seen them come around and give a piss test to anyone in a non-operational job unless someone gets hurt on the job. That being said, they can always decide that everyone is gonna go pee, without warning. And, if that happens, I'm not fighting for your job, because you fucking knew you were taking the risk, and you lost.
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