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Gave me a good chuckle.
Man loving this Arc so much.
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One Piece Manga |OT| ZEHAHAHAHA! The Name of this Age is Blackbeard!
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Gave me a good chuckle.
Man loving this Arc so much.
SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
This is the best One Piece has been in a long time. Oda has taken his world building and run with it. Wano kingdom has been foreshadowed since how long ago? Thriller Bark? It's been a long time coming, and the buildup to it is intense and seems to hit on major plot points, like Raftel, the Void Century, and the Yonko. Not to mention the Year of Sanji.
I defend the New World whenever I can, because Fishman Island and especially Punk Hazard are really good and underappreciated arcs, but I do admit nothing has recaptured the height of Arabasta -> Enies Lobby for me. The War of the Best was amazing, truly - it was - but it was so different from what came before it that it didn't have the same magic to it. This arc might bring the series back to its highest highs again.
I defend the New World whenever I can, because Fishman Island and especially Punk Hazard are really good and underappreciated arcs, but I do admit nothing has recaptured the height of Arabasta -> Enies Lobby for me. The War of the Best was amazing, truly - it was - but it was so different from what came before it that it didn't have the same magic to it. This arc might bring the series back to its highest highs again.
Yep. Unhinged, crazy, ruthless, and with a value set that no one can relate to. There's no meeting a mutually understanding with her.
Imperial Bishop
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Probably since the Monsters one-shot in 1994.
SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
Technically, this is true, but I doubt Oda had clear intentions to connect the two stories until Thriller Bark.
I don't see Kaido actually losing. Doflamingo took A LOT to beat, dude constantly kept getting up after everything law and luffy did to him. Took 2 gear 4's to beat him, I truly don't see Kaido going down, he's gonna have to get trapped somewhere(like tied down underwater or hell, the actual place) or tossed to the fucking moon. He jumps off sky islands TRYING to die, and just gets up disappointed. I suspect this will be our 2nd straw hat teamup ala Oz fight but seeing as how power levels/bountys are getting dumb high now I don't see kaido dying. Jack the half a billion mammoth finds zou twice, attempts to rescue dofla going through 3 admirals and now wants to kill a 1000 year old creature, and he works for kaido.
I don't know how the hell you're gonna do it Oda, but god damn you got me excited.
I don't know how the hell you're gonna do it Oda, but god damn you got me excited.
Big Mama is going to be an ally thanks to Sanji's cooking.
My guess is that Luffy is already on his way out of Zou, since he is not at the party, and in his way out he will see Jack about to kill the elephant, so he will proceed to beat the crap out of him and Zou will be safe for a while. This will make Kaidou aware of the Straw Hat menace and target him and his crew, meanwhile Luffy will go on his infiltration mission to the tea party.
From there it could go several ways. We do know there are three alliances in play.
Kaidou & the Wano Shogun
Big Mom and the Vinsmokes
Luffy Alliance.
Bonus points if somehow all got condensed in a single arc and we have a 3-way stand off.
From there it could go several ways. We do know there are three alliances in play.
Kaidou & the Wano Shogun
Big Mom and the Vinsmokes
Luffy Alliance.
Bonus points if somehow all got condensed in a single arc and we have a 3-way stand off.
Yeah I also don't think that they will fight against Big Mama, but rather will add them to their alliance. :3 She just looks scary but surely will have a cute ugly form. Hopefuly.
Cloud Strife
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I think they'll be able to. They know it's name "Zunisha", and we know Luffy can hear the voice of all things. I wouldn't doubt after the Sea Kings stuff that they'll be able to communicate somehow. I mean, it's also been kinda foreshadowed through Momo's sickness that he might have the same sort of gift but it's developing.
Come on guys, Luffy is going to be Pirate King. Like he said on Dresrossa to Fuji, he HAS to be able to take them down at some point. It's also something that will likely happen waaayy into the future (our time) so he'll be even stronger at the climax of the Wano arc.
pelicansurf
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Maybe he has a special version of G4 specially prepared for the Yonkous. Bounceman was maybe his scrubby test version.
Or this time his G4 won't have a time limit and he can keep it up full time.
mrmickfran
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Has this question been answered yet?:
How the fuck did Jack manage to get away from Tsuru, Sengoku and Fujitora?
How the fuck did Jack manage to get away from Tsuru, Sengoku and Fujitora?
Don't believe it has... which is scary.
mrmickfran
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one scenario i see playing out is luffy getting captured and big mom letting him go because luffy mentions he wants to take down kaidou. no need to kill luffy when he might end up doing a ton of damage to an even bigger competitor.
BobTheFork
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Big Mom doesn't strike me as a pirate trying to get One Piece. Now, she DOES have a Polyglyph about it's location so I could be wrong. I assume Luffy is going to get on her good side and help her get what she's really after and they will be friends. I don't see Luffy beating her and her crew in a fight and 'defeating' her.
i don't see luffy defeating her either but that's because i see blackbeard or somebody else doing it. who knows though maybe she promises luffy to give him her poneglyph if he takes down kaidou. maybe she thinks luffy will never be able to do it but of course he ends up taking him own.
Ganzlinger
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Well, could be simply that after a hard time, both sides thought that wasn't worthy to continue the fight. Jack retreated and the Marines didn't want to risk going after him with Doflamingo around. Jack would be defeated but he already destroeyd two ships. The Marines had the priority of escorting Doflamingo. Some sort of impasse.
I feel the opposite, I don't see why any pirate wouldn't want the One Piece. And Big Mom looks like one of the evilest pirates around (rumours say that she is even cannibal). She doesn't look like someone that will be friends with the Strawhats. Maybe a temporary ally.
Blackleg-sanji1
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I don't want a big mom alliance at all. Oda setup all this stuff for big mom to be angry with luffy
-him taking her candy
-challenging her
-she has a box that will explode thats from them
-now forcing sanji into marriage.
-has a important piece thats necessary for luffy to achieve his goal..
I want both her and kaido to be taken down
-him taking her candy
-challenging her
-she has a box that will explode thats from them
-now forcing sanji into marriage.
-has a important piece thats necessary for luffy to achieve his goal..
I want both her and kaido to be taken down
BobTheFork
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Well, White Beard didn't seem to want One Piece because there was something he wanted more, or he just had a different objective. I could see the same for Big Mom. I imagine we are going to get some back story on her to reveal that.
Blackleg-sanji1
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He went after the fleet carrying doffy not all the way to dressrosa. But he seemingly failed and now has found zou again
He went after the marine vessel with Doffy.
Jack destroys Zou
Luffy defeats Doflamingo
News breaks that Doflamingo has been defeated.
Jack leaves Zou to go retrieve him.
Attacks the Marine Ships carrying him.
Gets beaten and presumed dead.
Ventures back to Zou.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
Lol exactly tho the fact hes still alive says alot
YOLO is his motto.
Despite what he says I also assume that he is hurt really badly - which could be a cool plot device to have him weaker than usual, having him beat and bringing him back stronger at a later point without random power-up - just patched up and fully healed. Could also be a good tool to show how strong he is, still fighting strong after all the fights he went through.
Ganzlinger
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That's exactly what his crew thought in the chapter 801. Dude is crazy.
More Fun To Compute
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Awakened Zoan are supposed to have wolverine type regeneration. He fought the minks for several days non stop so his stamina and recovery is considered to be pretty high.
Yeah, but he is obviously not at the peak of his health right now. I don't think it's Wolverine regeneration, he is just a lot stronger and beefier than a regular dude. I will be disappointed if he isn't restricted by his injuries.
ArgyleReptile
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That'd be cool, but I think having him win now would be better. Beating them when he wasn't at full strength, only to be taken out later at full strength. I'd prefer that over him getting beat twice. Or maybe have it where he isn't beaten by anyone at all and he's taken out by something else entirely.
Now that there's a new alliance here, we've got:
Why am I already thinking about the finale when there are many things to happen in the series yet?
Edit: adding different stuff that comes to my mind
- Strawhat pirates
- Heart pirates
- Ninjas
- Minks
- Bartolomeo's pirates
- The rest of the people in Dressrosa circus, both Kingdoms and Pirates
- Baratie restaurant ex-pirates
- Raboon the whale (and his family in the new world?)
- Elbaf giant pirates
- Drum island soldiers
- Alabasta kingdom
- People and warriors from Skypiea and Sandora
- Tom's Workers carpenters and Franky's gang
- Lola's pirates
- Raileigh
- Female pirates from Amazon Lilly
- Emporio Ivankov and his crew is the Nakamaland island (I don't remember the name)
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Bon Clay and his group in the hidden level of Impel Down (in one of the manga covers, it's revealed that he is still alive))
- Whitebeard's family
- Dadan's bandits
- Fishman Island Kingdom and soldiers, along with Poseidon (that hateful giant princess), and Jinbe of course
- Bellamy's crew
- Dressrosa Kingdom army and all the pirates that were turned into toys many years ago
- Revolutionary army
- Shanks' crew
- Tashigi and Smoker, pressured by the children rescued in Punk Hazard
- Kobi and Elmeppo
- Fujitora, another critical voice inside the marines
- Kuzan (Aokiji, Blue Fish, ice man, whatever)
- Foxy
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CP9 (they had to fight the marines because they were blamed of the massacre in Enies Lobby, in one of the manga cover-stories)
- Garp?
- Weatheria scientists, fighting from the sky throwing lightnings to the enemy, like Nami does
- Perona and Hawk-eye, the last one after being beaten by Zoro
- Giant birds from the island Chopper stayed during the time-skip
- Countries and communities from Tequila Wolf
- Crocodile and Baroque group. After escaping with Luffy from Marineford, he joined forces with him and Whitebeard in Marineford. We don't know yet what's he doing now, and what's on his mind.
- Uranus (jokes incoming depending on what it is and how it is revealed)
- Pluton
Why am I already thinking about the finale when there are many things to happen in the series yet?
Edit: adding different stuff that comes to my mind
Wait, is Jack an awakened Zoan? When was this mentioned?
oreomunsta
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When did Zoro beat Hawk-eye?
He is supposed to beat him someday. And after that, it could happen that he joins Zoro. That's why I added him to the possible ones, he could join the Strawhats, or not. Oda will show that someday.
i've always thought it would be shillew who kills mihawk in some underhanded way. perhaps if blackbeard ever takes on shanks mihawk will fight alongside shanks. i know shanks uses a sword but it does seem like shanks doesnt have a proper swordsman. maybe shanks left that spot open for mihawk in case he wanted to join him some day.
I think the twist is that Zoro already beat Mihawk, and left him there beaten after returning to Sabody.
They will flash back to that years from now.
TheGreatDirector
Banned
Someone who eats their own crew members should clearly not fall under the sane category.
RomanceDawn
Member
We don't know yet for sure. His 5 day straight battle could be the result of being awakened but when you had guys like Jinbe and Ace who went at it for days on end and being weaker(comparatively), Jack could just be that strong regardless.
If he was awakened I think it would fit being someone worth so much in one of the most powerful crews on the planet. Then hopefully we could get more explanation on them. Though Jack didn't show any awakening forms on Zou he could save it for later.
It's an interesting subject though, Awakened Zoans. Chopper's monster form shares a few traits with some of the beast guards, a unique hybrid form with weird thick black fingers, and seemingly mindless. The beast guards always had runny noses and while they were treated like babies by Sadi I think they were sedated judging by later examples of anyone or anything that got drugged. I assume because without such drugs they would be too wild and uncontrollable.
When Chopper first showed us the transformation he obviously couldn't control himself and in a very similar move to Bruce Banner and the Hulk, Chopper came back having learned something spiritual(Kung Fu) over his 2 years training and with it came a controllable monster point. Now I know most people assume it was the powerful medicines Chopper discovered on Birdy Island that allowed him to control Monster Point but I'm certain thats not the case.
Franky assumed Chopper always used his "special beans" when fighting, Chopper told him he's better off with Kung Fu Point because he wouldn't be able to control the effects of the Rumble Ball. With Chopper's body no longer containing Chopper's tempered mind, the Monster Point/awakening was able to run rampant on Punk Hazard. Franky's mind wasn't disciplined enough to handle the awakening.
More Fun To Compute
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Jack transformed completely into a Mammoth. Awakened Zoan have not been explained totally but it seems that more "awakened" the zoan fruit the more like the animal they are and less like a standing human with animal features. Exception being Chopper who ate the human fruit so adopts a more human posture the more powerful he his and Sengoku who ate the Buddha fruit.
No every zoan has the ability to go full animal or half animal. So with the human form 3 forms. It has nothing to do with awakening.
Or maybe i missunderstood what you were saying.
Imperial Bishop
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More Fun To Compute
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I think with Zoan that the closer they get to animal form the more they lose control and the animal takes over. Perhaps the awakening relates to a level of control over the "ideal" form of the devil fruit.
Like a strong Zoan user like Rob Lucci fights as a human with leopard characteristics but might be actually be more powerful in terms of combat ability as a full Leopard. It's hard to guess if there was any reason for Rob Lucci not fighting as 100% leopard in his fight with Luffy and just tearing him to shreds.
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