Until what, new chapter?How much longer DDD:
Until what, new chapter?How much longer DDD:
...can the Strawhat stretch? I don't knoe, man, but it would be awesome if he could punch Enel from earth.How much longer DDD:
Gonna some cool fanart to clean this 4kids discussion out of here.
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Cool? They look like they're made of plastic. Terrible.
Take that trebol! Finally he's gone... Along with the theory that he is the mastermind
Kaido is coming, motherfuckers.Of all the times, why would the dwarves decided to be ominous now?
Kaido is coming, motherfuckers.
That would be incredible too.... Kaido comes in and just Wrecks Doffy after his fight with Luffy
"STERBEN"
lol ...half dead Law continues to pull ridiculous moves. Okay chapter - as expected the Executives turned DoFla into what he is today. DoFla will be redeemed... at some point.
Well the chapter confirmed that they turned Kid Dofla into what he is today - thats all the speculation we had, not that he was secretly stronger than Dofla. Especially not after being bitchslapped by Luffy a chapter before.
Bad translation. Seems like they were instead reacting to Trebol squeaking like the dwarves did when hurt.Of all the times, why would the dwarves decide to be ominous now?
Good old You-Know-WhosBad translation. Seems like they were instead reacting to Trebol squeaking like the dwarves did when hurt.
I don't think they turn Don into anything the just gave him the tools he need to be a better killer.
Chapter was awesome .
"Damn roads. My knees hurt."
*Cuts to them burning down the entire city*
Lol, come on, that part was just a little ridiculous. And it's also a little bit ridiculous how Law can still pull off such moves.
Cool chapter anyway. A bit curious on Trebol still, and I wonder if Kaido is indeed coming or not.
On mobile I assume.Omg I aunt ever seen a fight like that in one piece. Closest thing would be much vs luffy.
Tragic flashbacks? Doflamingo 10th SH confirmed.
LoooooolOn mobile I assume.
He was still a kid, had no one else and his dad just got beheaded....how did you expect the story to end ? Sure he was nuts but they turned him into the current DoFla. Not every little Shithead turns naturally into a mass murder and Psycho.
I don't think I've ever seen an example in fiction where a character beats another with his severed arm and it wasn't the hypest thing ever
Deadly Prey (movie) Main character cuts off a guys arm and beats him to death with it.
Well count me for a lose... I really thought Trebol was going to be some kind of mastermind with a plan of his own he wanted Doffy to complete. Oh well, he'll die.
Is this the first direct clash of haoshoku haki we've seen? Plenty of dudes have simmered with it before sure, and we see it all the time used to subdue mooks or animals, but here we've got this crazy shockwave and these black lines of electricity as it looks like Luffy and Doflamingo were actually actively FIGHTING with it.
It's got me thinking, we've seen armament haki's direct application in battle, but maybe part of Luffy's training was learning to use haoshoku haki as a direct weapon against a strong foe as well. Or if it wasn't part of his training, it might be something he's starting to figure out. There could be a whole new level of attacks here that are directly haoshoku-powered.
Is this the first direct clash of haoshoku haki we've seen? Plenty of dudes have simmered with it before sure, and we see it all the time used to subdue mooks or animals, but here we've got this crazy shockwave and these black lines of electricity as it looks like Luffy and Doflamingo were actually actively FIGHTING with it.
It's got me thinking, we've seen armament haki's direct application in battle, but maybe part of Luffy's training was learning to use haoshoku haki as a direct weapon against a strong foe as well. Or if it wasn't part of his training, it might be something he's starting to figure out. There could be a whole new level of attacks here that are directly haoshoku-powered.
uhhh Luffy vs Chinjao?
They both had it, sure, but did they use it against one another? I sure don't remember these black jagged lines at least.
Yeah it had it
I can't see the picture you're quoting, but if that is the case, neat! My post still stands, just replace Doflamingo with Chinjao. Direct haoshoku combat! Pretty neat thing. Glad to see that there's a consistent effect for it, too.
mmm i'm a bit bothered by the situation of DD's past. I feel it kinds of clashes with the characterization of Doflamingo, specially in moments like his speech in marineford, or the scenes of his nightmares/reading about flevance.
I don't buy that "oh, he's a monster BECAUSE: trebol, pica, vergo, diamante", that's just too simple and easy for the complexity of the character. This guy is clearly, authentically evil, and don't want to see it played like "oh he can have redemption because he was lead into that lifestyle"
It seems like it, but i kind of don't want to believe that, ironically, he is their puppet...
Law was saying that the executives have been puppets for Doflamingo the entire time, not the other way around.mmm i'm a bit bothered by the situation of DD's past. I feel it kinds of clashes with the characterization of Doflamingo, specially in moments like his speech in marineford, or the scenes of his nightmares/reading about flevance.
I don't buy that "oh, he's a monster BECAUSE: trebol, pica, vergo, diamante", that's just too simple and easy for the complexity of the character. This guy is clearly, authentically evil, and don't want to see it played like "oh he can have redemption because he was lead into that lifestyle"
It seems like it, but i kind of don't want to believe that, ironically, he is their puppet...
Whatever, Law and Trebol are out, so here it comes!
mmm i'm a bit bothered by the situation of DD's past. I feel it kinds of clashes with the characterization of Doflamingo, specially in moments like his speech in marineford, or the scenes of his nightmares/reading about flevance.
I don't buy that "oh, he's a monster BECAUSE: trebol, pica, vergo, diamante", that's just too simple and easy for the complexity of the character. This guy is clearly, authentically evil, and don't want to see it played like "oh he can have redemption because he was lead into that lifestyle"
It seems like it, but i kind of don't want to believe that, ironically, he is their puppet...
Whatever, Law and Trebol are out, so here it comes!
Nah, it is always said and implied that Doffy is evil and was not just turned evil. First off, Trebol refers to the young Doffy as 'unpolished diamond' which implies they recognized his already established potential and started to hang out with him.
Secondly, in the panels afterwards, it is always Trebol and the others asking what is on his mind and him saying crazy stuff like being beaten up by some punks and wishing them to die.
Could he have changed when he was kid? Maybe, but the chance was rather small. Dude killed his dad and hated people back then already; he was always evil, and his crew helped him to become even more evil and stronger. There is nothing redeemable about him at all.
He did and spit nasty shit, however these 4 characters kind of built him since he was a kid after all. They "executed" these actions when there was a direct command (like the example you gave) AND when there was no direct command (burning the city because he tripped?) so i assume the reader can associate this 4 figures as "responsible" for the way this guy developed at the end. (even when some panels, like the one with DD over the rubbish and they bowing seem to tell us authority came from him, but still, he was just a child).
We still don't know if there are ulterior motives for them helping doflamingo, but i can't stop thinking he's the one being "manipulated" for something. However, it's been stated they're a "family", so maybe i'm reading too much into this, but still feels like this Doflamingo isn't the one that's been featured in the series until now.
I don't know if i'm expressing myself clearly (not my native language so i'm trying my best).