Either that or she's just emotional seeing himSo like, could Carrot hear Perospero?
Why would Big Mom show up in person she's a Yonko. She had her crew do the work for her and when Luffy and co was captured she called up to mock them. To her Luffy's just an upstart from the worst generation who needs to learn respect but she doesn't see him as an equal.
Either that or she's just emotional seeing him
Just hoping she doesn't lose it and try and attack him big mom is there after all
She's hot headed, emotional and naive she may do it Lotus don't get hurt carrot"Carrot, if you jump off this ship, don't you come back."
No disrespect, but all of this is generic shit. She fell in love with him because he's kind and pure. So unique. Luffy's utter lack of reciprocation makes it a boring one sided love, and Hancock's position as the "most beautiful person in the world" who hasn't fallen in love, but manages to fall in love with our protagonist is just... convenient.
It's still not a very good romance, but at least it's 2-sided relationship. Certainly more nuanced than "I love you." "I love food."
Every romance in One Piece is understandable. Girls falling in love with powerful men that "saved" them in some way. Lol.
She's hot headed, emotional and naive she may do it Lotus don't get hurt carrot
She can swim right? Or maybe she can't anymore....I wonder why that would be shishishiLmao I half-expected her to do it right then and there, but then I was like, wait, she wouldn't able to jump back lol
I disagree with that, Luffy rejecting her with him just not being interested is funny.
Oda doesn't care about romance, so you should expect it to be all to much. Just like how Sanji and Pudding aren't being lovey dovey towards each other then again none of OP romance is like that.
problem is her plan failing didn't really required any strenght..even just sanji not being an idiot and talking calmly with nami and luffy instead of trying to make luffy desist by force (like that ever worked) would have allowed them to just take sanji away and flee from the island.
sure he would have abandoned the vinsmokes..but from the point of view of big mom,there's really no reason for sanji NOT TO do that
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It's the same joke repeated constantly. It doesn't really do anything for me past a certain point.
No disrespect, but all of this is generic shit. She fell in love with him because he's kind and pure. So unique. Luffy's utter lack of reciprocation makes it a boring one sided love, and Hancock's position as the "most beautiful person in the world" who hasn't fallen in love, but manages to fall in love with our protagonist is just... convenient.
You do realize that her physical appearance didn't change right?The point is that he still cares about her despite everything that's happened. The fact that he'd It's still be willing to call her beautiful in spite of her 3rd eye and in spite of her nasty personality meant something to her. It's still not a very good romance, but at least it's 2-sided relationship. Certainly more nuanced than "I love you." "I love food."
hmm, people liking other people because of qualities of their character... how unusual.Every romance in One Piece is understandable. Girls falling in love with powerful men that "saved" them in some way. Lol.
She can swim right? Or maybe she can't anymore....I wonder why that would be shishishi
Pero, Candy boy(lol poor sanji), peroin, lickitung
I don't get why people are feeling like this. She had one page in the last 3 chapters.If people think Pudding was annoying, be thankful Sanji isn't acting all lovey dovey at the moment to enable that.
Pero, Candy boy(lol poor sanji), peroin, lickitungShe can, it's just... I figured she wouldn't be able to catch up in time. And anyways, trying to have a battle with a DF user in the middle of the ocean would be boring as hell.
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Alright, I think Perospero is currently the MVP for me on the villain's side. Katakuri is obviously pulling his weight, but I really have to give Perospero (Should I call him Peros or Spero, I need a nickname for him badly) his props. Went from this creepy yet seemingly not that strong of a dude, to this super versatile threat that's revealed to have a surprisingly high bounty. Now he's tanked a suicide bomb attack, and is already helping Big Mom again, and has now gone full Punisher mode with an arm made out of candy. Wacky looking characters being deceptively strong is not an uncommon thing in the world of One Piece, but Peropspero has gone above and beyond imo
I don't get why people are feeling like this. She had one page in the last 3 chapters.
This is the last reply but I would suggest rereading the arc for stuff you forgot. Sanji couldn't have left at the point because there were bombs attached to his wrist and Zeff was being held hostage in the East Blue. Big Mom had every aspect of her plan in order and it would have worked if her kids weren't so scared of her. Luffy wasn't a factor but he has chaos/ the will of the D on his side.
Pedro died 2 chapters ago, I don't get it. If anything this chapter could have less of this and more of Luffy vs Katakuri or Pudding and Sanji finally making the cake.It was a rare instance where I wasn't feeling it because of the juxtaposition of how sad everyone was lol
yeah you are right about that, i completely forgot about the brecelets since they ended up being a dud..still putting luffy so much near sanji when unnecessary seems like an unnecessary risk...especially considering how many unknown things could happen when you let the enemy run free in your own capital
also,take note of the fact about zeff being hostage,since depending on how this arc ends,it might open the biggest plothole in the entire arc..or pardon,it can't be a plothole..call it whatever you want.
Pedro died 2 chapters ago, I don't get it. If anything this chapter could have less of this and more of Luffy vs Katakuri or Pudding and Sanji finally making the cake.
I'm reading criticism for plot developments not plot holes here..
That's so dark lol and luffy can't he has a fruit he'll explode
Big Mom ate caramel though we never see her with another devil fruitNot if my theory that cannibalism doesn't count as eating a second fruit pans out (which explains the whole Blackbeard/Whitebeard thing).
So Luffy eats Katakuri and becomes a Gomu/Mochi man, inadvertently making a major powerup out of the arc.
also,take note of the fact about zeff being hostage,since depending on how this arc ends,it might open the biggest plothole in the entire arc..or pardon,it can't be a plothole..call it whatever you want.
Didn't she keep him alive to help pressure Sanji?and that's the point
she is either a sadist,so she enjoys watching people suffer and wants to be in the first row to see luffy struggle..or she is not,and she treats him as a nuisance like she did in that moment..and if he is a nuisance to her and she is not a sadist she had no motive to let him on her island instead of dealing with him in advance, putting him near the one chess piece she can't lose in her entire plan.
Maybe because she didn't eat a different Devil Fruit?Big Mom ate caramel though we never see her with another devil fruit
Didn't she keep him alive to help pressure Sanji?
Big Mom ate caramel though we never see her with another devil fruit
If i remember right it was his famliy that had people watching Zeff not BM .
I agree that not every character should be fleshed out. I'd never want that. It's just that characters aren't even getting enough time to make an impact at all. Pedro's a good example of that. He's just 1 of 5000 characters introduced in this arc.
The major "fight" in this arc looks like it's going to be between Mochiman here and Luffy. We didn't even learn about this character until the wedding which was maybe halfway through the arc? This is supposed to be Big Mom's arc, but she's more of a force of nature than an actual character. She has almost zero agency. And I'd be fine with that if there was another antagonist here that did have agency and was actually controlling the arc, but there's not. There's just cool looking strong people.
One thing I liked about One Piece is that characters stood for something. Luffy's viewpoint would clash with the viewpoints of the villains, and we'd see the result of that worldview take shape in Luffy's victory. It's a bit simplistic, but that kind of simplicity is where One Piece excelled. Over time, however, One Piece has just become bloated beyond belief. Oda's just indulging in drawing new character designs rather than focusing on characters that will move the story forward.
also,take note of the fact about zeff being hostage,since depending on how this arc ends,it might open the biggest plothole in the entire arc..or pardon,it can't be a plothole..call it whatever you want.
Though I'm wondering, how did Pudding get wrapped up in Rabiyan down there?
Though I'm wondering, how did Pudding get wrapped up in Rabiyan down there?
I agree that not every character should be fleshed out. I'd never want that. It's just that characters aren't even getting enough time to make an impact at all. Pedro's a good example of that. He's just 1 of 5000 characters introduced in this arc.
The major "fight" in this arc looks like it's going to be between Mochiman here and Luffy. We didn't even learn about this character until the wedding which was maybe halfway through the arc? This is supposed to be Big Mom's arc, but she's more of a force of nature than an actual character. She has almost zero agency. And I'd be fine with that if there was another antagonist here that did have agency and was actually controlling the arc, but there's not. There's just cool looking strong people.
One thing I liked about One Piece is that characters stood for something. Luffy's viewpoint would clash with the viewpoints of the villains, and we'd see the result of that worldview take shape in Luffy's victory. It's a bit simplistic, but that kind of simplicity is where One Piece excelled. Over time, however, One Piece has just become bloated beyond belief. Oda's just indulging in drawing new character designs rather than focusing on characters that will move the story forward. The current arc has nothing behind it, there's no real central theme that ties it all together. Moreso than ever before, it really feels like Oda is making up completely random plot points with each chapter.
I cannot get over how good this arc is.
Haven't enjoyed OP this much since the Enies Lobby arc.
It seemed pretty obvious to me that the theme of this arc was the effect that exploitative parents have on their children and how seeing your children as a means of satisfying your desires instead of what they love and want to do is one of the worst things you can do as a parent.
Like, how has this arc not been about that? From Sanji, to Pudding and Big Mom's children, Big Mom's homies and even Big Mom herself with her flashback.
lol, ok ONE last reply . If my memory is correct on the whole Zeff situation Big mom was only threatening the Straw Hats in order to make Sanji marry Pudding and the Vinsmokes where threatening Zeff as extra insurance.
So since Sanji saved them/Big Mom betrayed them I don't think Sanji's dad is going to order the hit on Zeff.
Edit: Worse case BM captures Zeff and forces him to be her personal chef until the Straw Hats take down the Yonko in a later arc.
Big mom and her crew surpassed my hype I went in this arc like the strawhats I unfortunately severely underestimated this crew.I've throughly enjoyed this arc as well. Big Mom lived up to the hype for me.
still she has the habit of killing people you know if you piss her off
and they ROYALLY pissed her off
if they go away from totland on these terms,there's really no reason for big mom not to send them a head every week of someone they know..she does that if you don't show up at his party...they DESTROYED her party and also foiled her plan and tried to kill her..there's enough for a thousand heads
I don't get why people are feeling like this. She had one page in the last 3 chapters.
Still the chance Pudding can erase some memories too. Everyone might be on board because Perospero won't want her to figure out he lied and Dogtooth will be in Luffy's belly.
Big mom and her crew surpassed my hype I went in this arc like the strawhats I unfortunately severely underestimated this crew.
Imo kaidos crew has a lot to compete with especially if they really are all zoan they'll have to be some interesting ass characters and animals
I agree that not every character should be fleshed out. I'd never want that. It's just that characters aren't even getting enough time to make an impact at all. Pedro's a good example of that. He's just 1 of 5000 characters introduced in this arc.
The major "fight" in this arc looks like it's going to be between Mochiman here and Luffy. We didn't even learn about this character until the wedding which was maybe halfway through the arc? This is supposed to be Big Mom's arc, but she's more of a force of nature than an actual character. She has almost zero agency. And I'd be fine with that if there was another antagonist here that did have agency and was actually controlling the arc, but there's not. There's just cool looking strong people.
One thing I liked about One Piece is that characters stood for something. Luffy's viewpoint would clash with the viewpoints of the villains, and we'd see the result of that worldview take shape in Luffy's victory. It's a bit simplistic, but that kind of simplicity is where One Piece excelled. Over time, however, One Piece has just become bloated beyond belief. Oda's just indulging in drawing new character designs rather than focusing on characters that will move the story forward. The current arc has nothing behind it, there's no real central theme that ties it all together. Moreso than ever before, it really feels like Oda is making up completely random plot points with each chapter.