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One Piece Manga |OT3| Anything You Can Gum I Can Gum Better

Ray Down

Banned
Brooke will write a song the world will love.

It feels weird that One Piece has never had a spinoff manga.

There are most notably:
One Piece Party
Chopperman manga


Just not major spinoffs which are kinda rare to see for Jump series, there usually short series or reeled irregularly with big breaks.
 

LotusHD

Banned
I remember this lol

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Azure J

Member
Its so weird. Someone said they didnt like Fishman and i really enjoyed. HAsnt been one arc i havent enjoyed

I still remember back in the day feeling weird because I loved the fuck out of Skypiea (its themes, the huge latent significance of the entire adventure, and the promise of more to come from that particular sky island in the future really did something to me) but everyone around that time was more about either Alabasta (can't blame them though, that arc is where One Piece's V-TEC kicked in tbh) or Water 7 -> Enies Lobby.

I still get a little upset at people feeling like FI was a throwaway arc too because it touches on the same kind of long game promise Skypiea does and the world building is great. I get that the villains were kinda wet napkins, but I think that was more so because the crew became actual monsters in their time off, a point that was reinforced by how casually the mostly human crew was fucking up doped up fishmen on their home turf.

FI also gave us the fantastic Nami and Jimbe conversation so it can't ever be a bad arc.

The only thing I don't particularly like about Thriller Bark is Moria's henchman, outside of like Perona I guess, who I was pretty indifferent to outside of her reaction face. I mean, now she amuses me in that she is hilariously living with Mihawk of all people though.

But stuff like Brook, Nightmare Luffy, Ryuma, Zoro getting a new sword, and like you said, the strong ending with how Moria gets taken down, only to follow up with an unexpected visit from Kuma was pretty cool.

I have no real strong feelings in favor of the arc, but I did like it.

Pretty much how I feel. It's a fun "themed" romp like a sort of "What if Oda wrote a Scooby Doo episode" deal, and it has some of the best humor in the series to date. The only thing about the arc I consider genuinely bad is just Absalom.
 

Chase17

Member
Thanks to whoever mentioned King of Lightning here. I've started watching their videos and they are hilarious.

Even a dbs review.
 
Enies Lobby is probably the best arc of the series so far, in my opinion.
- We were first introduced to the Admirals and finally got a taste for just what the Straw Hat Crew would have to go against when they actually stepped into the big leagues, Every arc since then was a continuation of that
- Most character development in a single arc. Luffy vs. Ussop and defining Ussop's desire to be a brave warrior of the sea. Robin overcoming her trauma. Zoro being forced to abandon a sword given to him at the beginning, Chopper stepping out with the promise of a future powerhouse, Franky becoming a Straw Hat. Robin FINALLY becoming a Straw Hat.
- Creating the history of the world and starting to explore the mindset behind the World Government
- DECLARING WAR ON THE WORLD GOVERNMENT
- First bounties for the crew and Luffy becoming more than just a Supernova
- GOING MERRY ! BWAWWWWWWWWWW!!!
- Thousand Sunny! Yay!
 

Man God

Non-Canon Member
Enies Lobby is probably the best arc of the series so far, in my opinion.
- We were first introduced to the Admirals and finally got a taste for just what the Straw Hat Crew would have to go against when they actually stepped into the big leagues, Every arc since then was a continuation of that
- Most character development in a single arc. Luffy vs. Ussop and defining Ussop's desire to be a brave warrior of the sea. Robin overcoming her trauma. Zoro being forced to abandon a sword given to him at the beginning, Chopper stepping out with the promise of a future powerhouse, Franky becoming a Straw Hat. Robin FINALLY becoming a Straw Hat.
- Creating the history of the world and starting to explore the mindset behind the World Government
- DECLARING WAR ON THE WORLD GOVERNMENT
- First bounties for the crew and Luffy becoming more than just a Supernova
- GOING MERRY ! BWAWWWWWWWWWW!!!
- Thousand Sunny! Yay!
Just finished re reading it. It is the best.
 

LotusHD

Banned
Enies Lobby is probably the best arc of the series so far, in my opinion.
- We were first introduced to the Admirals and finally got a taste for just what the Straw Hat Crew would have to go against when they actually stepped into the big leagues, Every arc since then was a continuation of that
- Most character development in a single arc. Luffy vs. Ussop and defining Ussop's desire to be a brave warrior of the sea. Robin overcoming her trauma. Zoro being forced to abandon a sword given to him at the beginning, Chopper stepping out with the promise of a future powerhouse, Franky becoming a Straw Hat. Robin FINALLY becoming a Straw Hat.
- Creating the history of the world and starting to explore the mindset behind the World Government
- DECLARING WAR ON THE WORLD GOVERNMENT
- First bounties for the crew and Luffy becoming more than just a Supernova
- GOING MERRY ! BWAWWWWWWWWWW!!!
- Thousand Sunny! Yay!

Hmm? Wasn't it basically Enies Lobby that gave him the Supernova label? Alabasta was covered up, while Skypeia was its own thing.
 

Azure J

Member
Hmm? Wasn't it basically Enies Lobby that gave him the Supernova label? Alabasta was covered up, while Skypeia was its own thing.

I thought Supernova was just any pirate who made it to the halfway mark with a 100 million berry bounty? In that case, Luffy's been there since Alabasta.
 

Lunar15

Member
Enies Lobby is probably the best arc of the series so far, in my opinion.
- We were first introduced to the Admirals and finally got a taste for just what the Straw Hat Crew would have to go against when they actually stepped into the big leagues, Every arc since then was a continuation of that
- Most character development in a single arc. Luffy vs. Ussop and defining Ussop's desire to be a brave warrior of the sea. Robin overcoming her trauma. Zoro being forced to abandon a sword given to him at the beginning, Chopper stepping out with the promise of a future powerhouse, Franky becoming a Straw Hat. Robin FINALLY becoming a Straw Hat.
- Creating the history of the world and starting to explore the mindset behind the World Government
- DECLARING WAR ON THE WORLD GOVERNMENT
- First bounties for the crew and Luffy becoming more than just a Supernova
- GOING MERRY ! BWAWWWWWWWWWW!!!
- Thousand Sunny! Yay!

Enies Lobby was the peak, for sure.
 
Enies Lobby is probably the best arc of the series so far, in my opinion.
- We were first introduced to the Admirals and finally got a taste for just what the Straw Hat Crew would have to go against when they actually stepped into the big leagues, Every arc since then was a continuation of that
- Most character development in a single arc. Luffy vs. Ussop and defining Ussop's desire to be a brave warrior of the sea. Robin overcoming her trauma. Zoro being forced to abandon a sword given to him at the beginning, Chopper stepping out with the promise of a future powerhouse, Franky becoming a Straw Hat. Robin FINALLY becoming a Straw Hat.
- Creating the history of the world and starting to explore the mindset behind the World Government
- DECLARING WAR ON THE WORLD GOVERNMENT
- First bounties for the crew and Luffy becoming more than just a Supernova
- GOING MERRY ! BWAWWWWWWWWWW!!!
- Thousand Sunny! Yay!
It's the second best, but Archipelago to me is the best one.

- coolest location
- arguably the most badass intro to the right hand man of the KoP
- best barkeep as well
- intro to the douchelords that live above everyone
- incredible feel good moment with Luffy lighting one of them out, as well as Zoro wanting to cut him down previously
- introduction to Worst Generation, Law and Kid in partcular
- instantly made the world bigger. This is probably the best aspect of it. You realize just how fucking huge the world is, and how rich it is. Amazing storytelling
- power level of Admirals and Shichibukai
- has the best ending to any arc, and is incredibly emotional
- best pacing of the entire series, hugely underrated. Something is always happening
- prelude breakdown for Luffy of what's to come 2 arcs later
 

LotusHD

Banned
I thought Supernova was just any pirate who made it to the halfway mark with a 100 million berry bounty? In that case, Luffy's been there since Alabasta.

Oh yea lol

I mean, I guess, but you don't even learn about the label until they got to Saobody, so it'd be more accurate to say that Luffy stood out due to punching a Celestial Dragon, breaking into and escaping Impel Down, and participating in the Marineford war imo

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I'm still low-key shook that Oda is actually making an effort to make the other Supernovas actually feel important to the story. Like I shouldn't be surprised, but still, didn't expect Law to get such a big focus, or for Capone of all people to be so likable.
 
I thought Supernova was just any pirate who made it to the halfway mark with a 100 million berry bounty? In that case, Luffy's been there since Alabasta.

Hence why I used "more than just a Supernova" Any pirate can be a Supernova, but Luffy pushed the bar on the entry requirements, and actually made it into the top three through Enies Lobby.

Also, in my response to LegendofDragoonLives,
- point
- point
- cool, but not yet fully related to the plot. I'll grant you that one only when Shakky gets more scenes or actually becomes more than just a fan of Luffy
- So, you mean the Five Elders?
- Spandam and the flag held equal levels of catharsis. Besides. One Eternal Dragon getting punched and another landed upon isn't enough for me. BURN THEM ALL! BURN! BURN!
- perhaps, but you expected that to happen eventually. Goda's world is just too big to focus just on Luffy.
- Agree
- Already clear with Aokiji, and we met Mihawk already. By this point, we were introduced to Kuma and knew that he was already too much for the Straw Hats at that time
- I'll give you that one
- Entertaining, but more on of a plot exposition arc that directly led into a huge emotional moment.in my opinion
- Perhaps, but again, that was to be expected
 
It's the second best, but Archipelago to me is the best one.

- coolest location
- arguably the most badass intro to the right hand man of the KoP
- best barkeep as well
- intro to the douchelords that live above everyone
- incredible feel good moment with Luffy lighting one of them out, as well as Zoro wanting to cut him down previously
- introduction to Worst Generation, Law and Kid in partcular
- instantly made the world bigger. This is probably the best aspect of it. You realize just how fucking huge the world is, and how rich it is. Amazing storytelling
- power level of Admirals and Shichibukai
- has the best ending to any arc, and is incredibly emotional
- best pacing of the entire series, hugely underrated. Something is always happening
- prelude breakdown for Luffy of what's to come 2 arcs later

My man. Sabaody started a ripple effect that is still being felt, even in the current saga.

"Hiro Mashima said that he didn't plan the ending of Fairy Tail at all."

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AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA wow
 

Azure J

Member
Oh yea lol

I mean, I guess, but you don't even learn about the label until they got to Saobody, so it'd be more accurate to say that Luffy stood out due to punching a Celestial Dragon, breaking into and escaping Impel Down, and participating in the Marineford war imo

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I'm still low-key shook that Oda is actually making an effort to make the other Supernovas actually feel important to the story. Like I shouldn't be surprised, but still, didn't expect Law to get such a big focus, or for Capone of all people to be so likable.

Honestly, this right here is one of Oda's biggest strengths. I don't know if its because the series is "big" enough that he can afford to set things up and expand on them later or if he's just really got a lot in the back room for characters, but knowing that anything introduced on screen isn't just a throwaway "cool" character is so good, especially after coming from years of other long running shonen franchises just dragging in things based on popularity alone with no way to organically weave around them.

I'm also super biased here because Law was by far the coolest Supernova and the extended focus on him + the alliance with the SHs + finding out he's a bit of a lovable dork throughout Dressrosa + Zou is great haha.

I'm still here waiting for when we get to hear more about the other paths the Supernovas/Worst Generation took through the grand line and their current progress through the New World. Bonney is very high up there right now considering she got her crew lit up by Blackbeard/captured by fucking Akainu and is still traveling somehow.
 
Hence why I used "more than just a Supernova" Any pirate can be a Supernova, but Luffy pushed the bar on the entry requirements, and actually made it into the top three through Enies Lobby.

Also, in my response to LegendofDragoonLives,
- point
- point
- cool, but not yet fully related to the plot. I'll grant you that one only when Shakky gets more scenes or actually becomes more than just a fan of Luffy
- So, you mean the Five Elders?
- Spandam and the flag held equal levels of catharsis. Besides. One Eternal Dragon getting punched and another landed upon isn't enough for me. BURN THEM ALL! BURN! BURN!
- perhaps, but you expected that to happen eventually. Goda's world is just too big to focus just on Luffy.
- Agree
- Already clear with Aokiji, and we met Mihawk already. By this point, we were introduced to Kuma and knew that he was already too much for the Straw Hats at that time
- I'll give you that one
- Entertaining, but more on of a plot exposition arc that directly led into a huge emotional moment.in my opinion
- Perhaps, but again, that was to be expected
I mean, we are comparing two arcs that I consider the best of the best. If someone asks what are the best arcs in manga, these two from OP would make that list for me. Of course Spandam's catharsis is an amazing moment, I'd never deny it.
- I agree that we know of Kuma's and Aokiji's power is insane, but being used in such a punishing manner was still an amazing moment of power and for naught essentially. It basically expendad on what we knew in a way that only enhanced both those ranks of power and brought a lot of readers back to reality in terms of where the SH lie in the world.
- I don't know how you can call this arc an exposition arc. It literally ended their goal of going to the New World early and played a huge role why there is a timeskip in the first place. It was also the first arc where Luffy flat out failed, which has only happened twice in the entire series so far.
- Tenryuubito, not 5 elders. Slow down on the hate, Mad King :S
- I never expected a huge focus on others that are doing what Luffy is doing. Now it's a massive part of the story.

It's been a while since I saw/read EL arc though.
Honestly, this right here is one of Oda's biggest strengths. I don't know if its because the series is "big" enough that he can afford to set things up and expand on them later or if he's just really got a lot in the back room for characters, but knowing that anything introduced on screen isn't just a throwaway "cool" character is so good, especially after coming from years of other long running shonen franchises just dragging in things based on popularity alone with no way to organically weave around them.

I'm also super biased here because Law was by far the coolest Supernova and the extended focus on him + the alliance with the SHs + finding out he's a bit of a lovable dork throughout Dressrosa + Zou is great haha.

I'm still here waiting for when we get to hear more about the other paths the Supernovas/Worst Generation took through the grand line and their current progress through the New World. Bonney is very high up there right now considering she got her crew lit up by Blackbeard/captured by fucking Akainu and is still traveling somehow.
Law should have been the one to down Doflamingo. Still won't forgive Oda to this day for allowing Luffy to do it. :'(

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My man. Sabaody started a ripple effect that is still being felt, even in the current saga.
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Azure J

Member
Saobody is definitely Enies Lobby tier if only because it played on the same strengths of the latter arc's writing. Everyone is riding high after an "ascended side quest" and both the readers and the crew are fully confident in their security, then the greater universe decides its now time to show y'all just how *real* shit can get in this world with back to back to back highest level boss fights. It was also really good seeing the SHs get called the fuck out for being carried by Luffy (and Zoro to a lesser extent). I still feel like the cast needed that wake up call far earlier and although shades of it permeated the last half of Thriller Bark, it still fell upon Luffy to deal with the immediate threat and Zoro stepping up to play off Luffy's effort for them to get out of trouble. If they kept sailing in as they were, they would have gotten WASHED.

On a related note, I think a part of me is happy with how Oda's handled the post skip SHs, but another has me here like "Robin/Brook/Nami/Chopper are somewhat underutilized". Ussop would have been mentioned here but his showing on Dressrosa actually had me really excited and thinking that maybe instead of making everyone adepts right of the bat with the basics of things like Haki, he would show them all in these one off moments (Ussop unlocking Color of Observation to snipe Sugar) geared to their specialties and the growth would come from there.

This isn't to kickstart any "POWER LEVULZ" kind of discussion, it's just that within the frame of the series, we're starting to see things shape up already around the SHs and their match ups with World Government/Marine based offensive forces and other pirates in the form of the Emperors and -- especially-- Blackbeard's lineup. There's a lot of story left for sure, but it definitely seems like one of the top billing fights is going to be every member of Luffy's final pirate crew versus Blackbeard's 10 Titan Captains and other people of that caliber in the other Emperor crews (Calamities/Sweet Commanders/whatever Shanks has going on) and aside from Zoro & Sanji with a side of Ussop
and eventual Jimbe
, I don't see the steps being taken by the unmentioned SHs to begin their ascent to being competitive with them.

This is also me lamenting that Robin hasn't had a hype showing as a combatant since the Ms. All Sunday era. Also as I think of it rewriting this post again, Sanji has actually been kinda underused as a combatant aside from being "Mr. Bail-everyone-out" here and there, but I blame that more on the current arc setup than anything.

Hence why I used "more than just a Supernova" Any pirate can be a Supernova, but Luffy pushed the bar on the entry requirements, and actually made it into the top three through Enies Lobby.

Oh fair point.

As a related note, it's still kinda wild to me thinking about how the crew basically did what they did and Luffy got the notoriety he did while their crew was mostly non-pillaging and plundering types. We get to Saobody and find out Kidd's extra high bounty is based solely on the fact that he does go out and cause excessive property damage with lots of deaths/casualites and then you sit there and think aside from maybe Enies Lobby, the Straw Hats have a bounty that high without directly causing a ton of casualties.

Law should have been the one to down Doflamingo. Still won't forgive Oda to this day for allowing Luffy to do it. :'(

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It definitely would have been nice, especially given Law's entire character arc around Doffy. It would also have been really good to see another Captain of a ship put up a feat that cements them as someone competing with Luffy for the current "Pirate King" title. That said, I don't really feel bad about how it played out though.
 
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It definitely would have been nice, especially given Law's entire character arc around Doffy. It would also have been really good to see another Captain of a ship put up a feat that cements them as someone competing with Luffy for the current "Pirate King" title. That said, I don't really feel bad about how it played out though.

I have a bit of an out there pov, but Law and Doflamingo have the best chemistry in the entire series. Their dialogue is also some of the interesting between two characters. Once you see the flashback, everything makes so much sense. It also works since Law is still a dick and they constantly throw shade towards each other showing just how much they loathe one another, and their feelings make sense in the story.

First time I ever tapped out interest-wise during an OP arc. Was still a very good arc, and I enjoyed it, but my shoulders slumped when I foresaw him not being the one to end Doflamingo.
 
No, because there's nothing to really get hype about concerning these three, except maybe Franky. Being the shipwright of the 2nd ship to sail everywhere is cool

EDIT: Oh, he is Tom's protege, so there
And he's a fucking half naked transformer dude

Enies Lobby is still my fave as well. Robins one of my favorite Straw Hats and I cry every time. Sabaody is fun but I don't like the look of it and Camie and Pappagu are kind of annoying.
 
Since we're talking about it...

When was the last medical emergency chopper could actually handle without outside help?
He couldn't cure luffy from eating the poison fish at the start of the current arc, needed Reiju to do that.

He couldn't help the children, needed Law to do that.

He couldn't help sanji on his own on fishman island because apparently he doesn't keep any sort of blood supply with him (they might have been away from the sunny then, I forget).
 

Ray Down

Banned
Chapter 748

All of those who battled in the colloseum joining and now charging Pica.

HYYYYYYYYYYPE.

*Imagine a few dozen TFS vegetas yelling "I AM THE HYPE"!

God reading 748 made me realise.

We spent like over 30 chapters just taking the Mingo family it seems.

So much time just spent on fighting

He couldn't help sanji on his own on fishman island because apparently he doesn't keep any sort of blood supply with him (they might have been away from the sunny then, I forget).

They were away from the Sunny, it was in the Sea Forest after being swept in and was with Franky and Den (Tom's older brother)
 
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