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[RaduN]

Option 1:
RTX 2060 Super,
AMD R5 5600X,
16GB,
SSD 512GB M2
Gigabyte B450 AORUS ELITE V2
Corsair RMx White Series RM850x, 850W

Option 2:
Ryzen 7 3700x
RTX 2070
16 Gb 2666 Mhz
SSD: 256Gb
Njoy 600w 80+ bronze
B450-A PRO MAX
Cooler: AMD Wraith Stealth

Option 3:
Ryzen 5 3600
RTX 2070 Super 8Gb OC edition
COOLER : Cooler Master
RAM : 16 GB DDR 4
STOCARE: SSD 1 TB NVME
Power: 700 W
Case: Thermaltake


Either one is 400€
What is you opinion guys?

The goal is close to ps5 graphics (medium settings?) at 1080, 30/60 fps.

 

[Gaiff]

They’re old really old systems with old components. That 5600X is decent, but the 2060S is a piece or crap. Can’t you get the RTX 2070S in there?

 

[hemo memo]

Option 3

 

[RaduN]

They’re old really old systems with old components. That 5600X is decent, but the 2060S is a piece or crap. Can’t you get the RTX 2070S in there?

That would be ideal, but it's from different buyers, can't mix the pieces. I saw in benches that there's not that much of a difference between 2060S and 2070. Maybe 3 - 5 %.

 

[RaduN]

Option 3

That was my thought too.

Do you think that CPU would drag down the performance too much?

 

[SaturnSaturn]

Option 2 or 3

3600 will run everything 1080p, its fine wine. like the old 2500k intels.

bottom line, you cant go wrong with either 2 or 3.

 

[Xyphie]

With the details provided I'd get #1 if these are your options. Zen 2 is not aging that well, and if you upgrade the GPU a 5600X will do much better. 2060 Super is like 85-90% the perf of a 2070 Super, so it's not too much of a downgrade there. RM850X is a very nice PSU you can reuse down the line too and should be enough for everything except 600W GPUs.

 

[squidilix]

Option 1

Better CPU for better higher framerate (Ryzen 5 and 5th gen) and 2060 S have 8 GB, still enough for 1080p, it have also almost same raw power than 2070 Classic.

 

[baphomet]

The 2070 Super is the only correct option

 

[Senua]

They’re old really old systems with old components. That 5600X is decent, but the 2060S is a piece or crap. Can’t you get the RTX 2070S in there?

2060 super is still ok at 1080p, especially if you use DLSS

 

[squidilix]

They’re old really old systems with old components. That 5600X is decent, but the 2060S is a piece or crap. Can’t you get the RTX 2070S in there?

2060S still okay, unless you consider the classic 2070 as shit too.


People recommand Option 3 with this old CPU Muh Nvidia power...

 

[hououinkyouma00]

The 2070 Super system for sure.

I still rock a 3600 to this day and in most games it's completely fine (I did buy a 5700x3d but returned it). I will NEED to upgrade soon but outside of Stalker 2 I haven't run into any issues with it paired to my 4070S.

 

[chakadave]

Whichever one has the best mobo. Upgrades to CPU to max that out then get a newer GPU down the line.

 

[RaduN]

Wow...so many opposing views. I'm...still in doubt

I'm definitelly looking to not invest more in this system for a couple of years at least.
I know it's nothing amazing here, but i'm looking for an enjoyable experience, smooth med details 30 fps (vanilla ps5 level hopefuly), not necessarily ray tracing or some other cutting edge effects.

 

[RaduN]

Last 2 contenders (same ~ 400€ price):

Option4:
Ryzen 5 5500 4.2Ghz,
16 GB ram DDR4,
ssd 1TB,
AMD Radeon RX 6600 8 GB GDDR6,
Case: gaming RGB

Option5:
i7 9700k
asus prime B365-plus.
Ssd M2 intel 760p257gb
Ssd M2 kingston 1tb
ddr4 - 32 gb (4x8gb 2660MHz)
Power: energon esp-750w.


I know nothing about Radeon GPUs. Can they use Riva Tunner will all those great options? (different fps caps, per game tweaks etc)

Thank you very much guys, you are really helpful to me

 

[hououinkyouma00]

Wow...so many opposing views. I'm...still in doubt

I'm definitelly looking to not invest more in this system for a couple of years at least.
I know it's nothing amazing here, but i'm looking for an enjoyable experience, smooth med details 30 fps (vanilla ps5 level hopefuly), not necessarily ray tracing or some other cutting edge effects.

What resolution do you/will you play at, and what games do you want to play?

Here's the thing about CPUs. Go look at any benchmark for CPUs and it's almost always 1080p because it's less GPU bound. If you watch CPU benchmarks at 1440p/or 4K you'll notice that the difference is sometimes 0-2 frames between lets say a 3600 and a 5600x.

That was at least my reasoning for choosing the 2070S build.

 

[SaturnSaturn]

Get option 4, the 6600 is a good 1080p card. its honestly the best option. you will run everything on that thing 1080p

 

[FalconPunch]

The only one to purchase out of that list is option 1. You can sell the gpu and upgrade as the 5600x should still last a while. The 3700x and 3600 are a waste of money at this point.

 

[Mr Moose]

3.

 

[AJUMP23]

Either one is 400€

fake currency.

 

[T4keD0wN]

3 seems to be the best, only other acceptable would be 2 if you add an extra ssd to it (RAM seems meh, but i assume 3 has similar timings and frequency too)

4 and 1 are terrible, also overpriced by comparison, avoid those

 

[RaduN]

Forgot to write, Option 5 has also has 2070 as well.


I'm leaning towards Option3.

I'm hoping upcoming game like Death Stranding and already released FF16, FFRemake2 would run decently and look nice (1080 is quite enough for me).


If anyone has more insights, please share.

 

[DoubleClutch]

Option 1

Better CPU for better higher framerate (Ryzen 5 and 5th gen) and 2060 S have 8 GB, still enough for 1080p, it have also almost same raw power than 2070 Classic.

Agree with this. Also the PSU looks better on paper than the others.

 

[Cakeboxer]

Option 1. Sell sell the GPU and get a better one.

 

[Dusktildawn48]

Just bought my daughter a PC with a 5600x3d and an RTX 4060 off marketplace for $500. If you wait you'll find a good deal.

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

option 1
newer cpu
newer mobo that supports upgrading to a 9 5950X iirc
really nice psu
-mid storage space
-mid gpu

option 2
decent cpu
decent gpu
-trash psu
-trash storage space

option 3
good gpu
good storage space
decent psu
-older and mid cpu

option 4
newer cpu, but mid
good storage
-psu?
-weakest gpu

option 5
good cpu
decent gpu
good storage
good ram
mid psu

 

[MikeM]

Option 3 if you don’t want to upgrade anything. Option 1 if you want to upgrade the GPU and SSD space.

 

[TNT Sheep]

2070 Super is around 15% stronger than the 2060 Super according to Tech Powerup.

Ryzen 5 5600x is around 24% better than a Ryzen 5 3600 at 1080P in single thread rating according to Passmark, so I think option 1 would be slightly better performance wise. Though you would have less storage for games.

 

[chakadave]

If it was me I'd only be looking at the motherboard and power supply. The rest is swappable down the line and you can upgrade it in a few years or sooner,.
What is the mother board for the missing ones? For me it is option 1. I'd stick with AMD. Everything else doesn't matter. You just temper expectations to the rest of the rig. When you are ready you upgrade Ram and GPU. Then last the CPU to the max of the board.

Grok says

Conclusion:Given these new options:

• Option 1 (Gigabyte B450 AORUS ELITE V2) remains the best choice for AMD platforms, offering modern features and compatibility with Ryzen 5000 series CPUs.
• Option 5 (ASUS PRIME B365-PLUS) is functional for the i7 9700K but lacks in future-proofing and overclocking, which might be a limitation depending on your needs. However, it's adequate for the components listed, especially with the dual M.2 slots.
• Option 4's unspecified motherboard would need to be a B550 or X570 model to be considered competitive with Option 1 for AMD systems, but without knowing specifics, it's hard to rank.

Therefore, if you're looking at pure motherboard quality, features, and future-proofing:

• Option 1 (Gigabyte B450 AORUS ELITE V2) is still the best choice for an AMD setup due to its comprehensive feature set and support for newer Ryzen CPUs.
• Option 5 (ASUS PRIME B365-PLUS) would be the best for an Intel setup based on your list, albeit with the caveat of no overclocking support.

 

[Lootlord]

Get Option 3 and replace the shit CPU with a 5700X3D.
Especially if you want to play very CPU-limited games (singlethreaded) like World of Warcraft
2070S is still fine besides the 8GB VRAM.

 

[ssringo]

I actually upgraded from a PC similar to option 3 (had a 3700 and 2080S) early last year. It ran most stuff decently at 1080p but there was a lot of turning down options on newer games and some stuff it struggled to even maintain 30fps.

You'd be better served putting that money into savings and buying a PC closer to $1k or just a PS5 Pro.

 

[GHG]

The option where you continue to save your money instead of putting your money in to a dead-end old system that will be in immediate need of upgrading.

 

[SHA]

The 1st one, no question, you're gonna upgrade the gpu anyway and with that psu it makes sense. You could get smart when you decide to upgrade your gpu, I'm not telling you to spend $1000+, but from my own experience, the more youtubers you know the better like

Techyescity
Jayz2cent
Thegoodoldgamer

These guys unlike Linus cares about how they spend their money on pc.

 

[RaduN]

Thing is, as my all purpose laptop died, i figured i'd replace it with a PC and put a little extra cash into a configuration that can aslo handle modern games.

Looking at all these youtube vids with similar configs to my options, i had high hopes, as their games seem to run very well and playable, even graphical showcases like Cyberpunk, Hellblade 2, Horizon, etc.

I'm undecided on what to do.

 

[CrustyBritches]

Option #1. 2060 Super is a good card, it’s basically a 2070. I only glanced, but it looks like that mobo supports the higher end 5000x3D cpus, so you have a decent upgrade path. Same for the PSU, which looks like it’s 80 plus gold and fully modular.

 

[Gonzito]

all options are bad my man, better save and buy something worth it

 

[Lux R7]

all options are bad my man, better save and buy something worth it

yeah, this or option 3.

 

[peish]

option 1 easily.

400€ is not really cheap though. Make sure the PC is in good condition

 

[RoboFu]

NO

 

[Astray]

Honestly? Save up and get a better one.

You will end up regretting buying any of the three.

 

[Lokaum D+]

option 3 and you ll run everything on the market.

 

[mèx]

Save your money and use them for something better.