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[Aenima]

Do we really believe physical copies will preserve games? That's what the internet is for.

Physical games preserve the original version of the game. At any time a digital game can be altered for some political or social reason. The physical version will be the only one where you can play that game with the vision of the creator intact.

Some recent cases of this happening with remasters that are changing some things that where presented in the original to something else or completely removing them. Dragon Quest and Dead Rising are 2 examples that come to mind. I have no doubt we gonna see much more cases of games being "adjusted" to fit modern day sensibilities in the future.

 

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people in this thread are literally defending publishers so that you can't resell the game yourself

UNBELIEVABLE USEFUL IDIOTS

Its like saying - LET THEM PISS ON US

 

[Insolent]

I expected that some people are into golden showers
Didn't expect there to be so many of you here

 

[Beechos]

You gotta prove these doubters wrong show them your vast game collection.

 

[Justin9mm]

Ok, they don't want my money, no problem

The problem is they don't care about you not giving them money because they already have enough consumers to bend over. There is no large collective boycotting Steam. At least on Steam you can gift/sell unlike console.

Side rant.. Businesses in general largely fuck consumers over because consumers are generally stupid. It's why prices for things like new iPhones and GPUs are insane, because people buy them anyway. People are addicted to hype, the rise of the internet communication and social media has attributed to this. People want what is popular/other people have!

 

[Beechos]

My guy trying to be on your side but you listed your pc components without listing a optical drive.

 

[bender]

Been gaming since the Mega-Drive.

Listen and make your own on Suno.

suno.com

Shoutout to Pejo for turning me onto Suno.

 

[kruis]

You are fucking blind
I am buying games, I HAVE MONEY

I DO NOT BUY DIGITAL

In other words: you've been pirating pc games for more than a decade and you've started this thread to justify this.

 

[mathello]

If people literally shopped in the number of games as they did in digital in retail, gaming would be seen as the greatest business of all time.

 

[Insolent]

Side rant.. Businesses in general largely fuck consumers over because consumers are generally stupid. It's why prices for things like new iPhones and GPUs are insane, because people buy them anyway. People are addicted to hype, the rise of the internet communication and social media has attributed to this. People want what is popular/other people have!

That doesn't mean consumers should obediently suck it up

My guy trying to be on your side but you listed your pc components without listing a optical drive.

I am ready to buy it

In other words: you've been pirating pc games for more than a decade and you've started this thread to justify this.

I always bought disks while they were available, including PC
Yes, I am pirating PC now and will pirate it forever until they bring back physical releases

 

[Insolent]

If people literally shopped in the number of games as they did in digital in retail, gaming would be seen as the greatest business of all time.

If people stopped buying crappy digital games and especially microtransactions, you'd be shocked at how many higher-quality games would appear

 

[Fess]

Sounds like you're just trying to justify pirating. It's not like you've been blindsided by the lack of physical copies. How much useless clutter do you want sitting around anyway? Modern physical copies don't even come with instruction booklets and many of them need you to download data anyway.

I gave up completely on physical games once I had to install the games on a harddrive to play them.

Physical media just felt like one extra step before the games were treated as digital copies anyway. Installs, patches, no manuals, sometimes just a code.

And today games are patched so much that a physical launch copy would be uninteresting.

 

[Insolent]

I gave up completely on physical games once I had to install the games on a harddrive to play them.

Physical media just felt like one extra step before the games were treated as digital copies anyway. Installs, patches, no manuals, sometimes just a code.

You can install a game from a full 100gb blu-ray disc in about 30-40 mins, its not much longer than downloading, especially if you don't have a fast internet

At the same time, you get:
1. The ability to add the game to your beautiful collection
2. The option to resell the game
3. True ownership of the game - no matter what happens, you'll have a real physical copy
4. No need to waste internet traffic or time downloading it

 

[Puscifer]

In the end I simply look at it this way:

If everyone pirated, we'd have no games to buy. It doesn't matter if it's not physically removing an item from a store or not.

Same as if you could "pirate a car." If everyone pirated cars, every car dealership on earth would close.

Every person committing "digital theft" is doing the same selfish act as someone committing "physical theft" as in they are assigning themselves to a group that for whatever reason shouldn't pay for shit. Using lame ass excuses like "well I didn't physically remove a product so it's not the same!" doesn't suddenly excuse the anti-social behavior.

Just to add, I can fully admit that when I pirate movies or TV shows I'm definitely stealing something regardless of who it's "hurting" or not. Hell, sometimes I'll pirate a copy of something I physically own just to not have to go through the process of ripping and converting and transferring to my NAS.... but realistically the honorable thing to do is do that myself vs adding a number to the people stealing things.

 

[Lord Panda]

To all the losers in this thread:

YOU ARE DEFENDING PUBLISHERS
1. FROM YOUR OWN RIGHT TO RESELL THE GAME
2. NOT HAVING THE GAME ON PHYSICAL MEDIA 100GB DISC (BUT INSTEAD DOWNLOADING IT FROM THE INTERNET)
3. THE ABILITY FOR YOU TO ADD IT TO A BEAUTIFUL PHYSICAL COLLECTION

Absolute useful dumb mules

I mean you're not wrong ...

... but you're kinda being a twat about it.

Also a serious request and no snark: post pics of your physical collections please, as I'm sure it's epic.

 

[Puscifer]

You can install a game from a full 100gb blu-ray disc in about 30-40 mins, its not much longer than downloading, especially if you don't have a fast internet

At the same time, you get:
1. The ability to add the game to your beautiful collection
2. The option to resell the game
3. True ownership of the game - no matter what happens, you'll have a real physical copy
4. No need to waste internet traffic or time downloading it

With my 1gbps connection a game like cyberpunk would be 15 minutes tops to download and install. If you want to back it up, get it from gog and burn your own disc. This is a 20 year argument against progress, we've kinda admitted that for PC full digital makes sense with the flexibility you get for backing up. I can't understand console owners going full digital, it's just admitting you want to get screwed.

 

[cinnamonandgravy]

stay strong OP
still have my HL1, ut99, solider of fortune1, BF2, r6, etc discs and a usb disc drive
no physical option for pc sucks

having games backed up to an HDD (and backing that up too) isnt the same.
just feels like a big ol dump of roms.

steam is a rental service and has been a huge enabler of developer patch-addition
physical for life

 

[Insolent]

Also a serious request and no snark: post pics of your physical collections please

I am recently relocated from another country
Unfortunately, I was forced to leave behind my beautiful discs from the '90s and '00s

Currently I have ps5 exclusives (not all of them, some sold, some planning to keep)

Its not about what I have now, It's about what I want to have

 

[Draugoth]

I WANT TO BUY GAMES ON PC ON PHYSICAL MEDIA

I miss PC Physical Media, my last one was Cyberpunk 2077

 

[TexMex]

 

[Goalus]

i dont like steam since its drm.

GOG isn't DRM.

 

[Come On Tars]

I miss physical media as much as the next guy and im so glad I grew up with it. Growing up in the 90s we were spoiled. Boxes and manuals, the smell oh my. The Diablo 2 battle chest, Warcraft 3 LITHOGRAPHS goodness I STARED at those for afternoons. I just don't care anymore. I'll keep my retro collection with the games that game out physically, that makes sense, that's how they were meant to be enjoyed. New games don't exist in the physical world to me, they are icons in a launcher. It's been like that ever since I switched to pc gaming mainly like 15 years ago. In fact when I first pirated games in pc that was the allure of it, you mean I don't have to put in a stupid disc? Nice….. just click the pretty little icon, sweet.

I agree the feeling of real value is lost. It's just content now to adult me. I'm at the point that if steam, ea, Ubisoft all go under and all my digital licenses are dead, I wouldn't care haha. Thanks for the good times, new hobby.

 

[Paasei]

I bet your wife is digital too.

lnstalling it from a dozen, if not more, disc drives given the size or something.

 

[Justin9mm]

That doesn't mean consumers should obediently suck it up

You're preaching to the choir.. And my point is that they do! That's the problem!

 

[Ozriel]

I am recently relocated from another country
Unfortunately, I was forced to leave behind my beautiful discs from the '90s and '00s

 

[Grizzled Ghost]

I am recently relocated from another country
Unfortunately, I was forced to leave behind my beautiful discs from the '90s and '00s

Currently I have ps5 exclusives (not all of them, some sold, some planning to keep)

Its not about what I have now, It's about what I want to have

So this "beautiful collection" you keep going on about is what, a dozen games?

Was your wife forced to leave her big tits and ass in your former country as well?

 

[Insolent]

Was your wife forced to leave her big tits and ass in your former country as well?

Glad I burned so much asses today

Nope, not gonna post a pic of my wife

And if I had posted, the salt levels would've broken records, that would've been painful for your fragile ego

 

[Grizzled Ghost]

Glad I burned so much asses today

Nope, not gonna post a pic of my wife

And if I had posted, the salt levels would've broken records, that would've been painful for your fragile ego

How about just a pic of the collection then? Do you have a wide-angle lens so you can get the whole thing in frame?

 

[Insolent]

How about just a pic of the collection then? Do you have a wide-angle lens so you can get the whole thing in frame?

Its not about what I have now, It's about what I want to have

I will make sure to make a thread about my full beautiful collection

 

[Insolent]

I miss physical media as much as the next guy and im so glad I grew up with it. Growing up in the 90s we were spoiled. Boxes and manuals, the smell oh my. The Diablo 2 battle chest, Warcraft 3 LITHOGRAPHS goodness I STARED at those for afternoons.

That's another point
I still care

 

[adamsapple]

Sometimes the greatest clues are hidden in plain sight.

Fuckin' Light theme?

 

[hemo memo]

Look, nobody's making you pirate stuff. Piracy is against the law. It's not about "sucking up to corporations"; it's the government's law. If you go live in a country where piracy is legal, then maybe you'd have a point.

 

[DenchDeckard]

It's 2025. PC has been digital for fucking years.

What year is it?

Just stick to consoles, please. For the love of all things that require common sense. PC doesn't want you.

 

[ReasonBeing]

Justify your theft however you like. I've sailed the seas before, but I'm not going to dilute myself into believing I "deserve" to have a copy without paying.

 

[HRK69]

 

[Insolent]

Just stick to consoles, please. For the love of all things that require common sense. PC doesn't want you.

PC too good

No true 4k on consoles with high fps
No 120-240 fps on consoles
No 21:9 on consoles
No custom patches like HUD delete or other mods on consoles

I am only playing exclusives on consoles

 

[Grizzled Ghost]

PC too good

No true 4k on consoles with high fps
No 120-240 fps on consoles
No 21:9 on consoles
No custom patches like HUD delete or other mods on consoles

I am only playing exclusives on consoles

You already admit to pirating Switch games. Something tells me that if PS5 was currently emulatable, you wouldn't be too concerned about your physical collection on that platform either.

 

[consoul]

So why are they forcing me to pirate games?

I want money, but I don't want to work on anyone else's terms. Why are they forcing me to rob convenience stores?

 

[Soodanim]

I am recently relocated from another country
Unfortunately, I was forced to leave behind my beautiful discs from the '90s and '00s

Currently I have ps5 exclusives (not all of them, some sold, some planning to keep)

Its not about what I have now, It's about what I want to have

So what you're saying is that you no longer have access to your collection because there is no worldwide means of access to them.

If only you had bought your games on some sort of non-physical service that would have allowed you to circumvent this unfortunate issue.

Any ideas, GAF?

 

[Insolent]

You already admit to pirating Switch games. Something tells me that if PS5 was currently emulatable, you wouldn't be too concerned about your physical collection on that platform either.

You can speculate all you want
This topic isn't about that

Switch? One word
Nintendo

I've given my money to SEGA, Microsoft, Sony - but not to Nintendo

 

[Insolent]

If only you had bought your games on some sort of non-physical service that would have allowed you to circumvent this unfortunate issue.

Bought? You mean rent

 

[Grizzled Ghost]

You can speculate all you want
This topic isn't about that

Switch? One word
Nintendo

I've given my money to SEGA, Microsoft, Sony - but not to Nintendo

How many Microsoft games are in your current glorious collection? You didn't mention any. Guess you don't have to buy them now that their first party games are all "free" on PC.

 

[Insolent]

Are we actually buying games on Steam, or just renting them?

Legally, when you "buy" a game on Steam, you're not purchasing the game itself. You're getting a non-transferable license to use it. This means:

• You don't own the game — Valve can revoke access anytime (e.g., if you break rules or if the game is delisted).
• You can't resell, gift, or inherit the game.
• If your account is banned, you lose all access to your games.

In short: it's not true ownership, it's lifetime rental with conditions.

Do we own games from Nintendo, Sony, EA, Ubisoft online services?

No — just like Steam, you're not actually buying the games. You're buying a license to use them under their terms.

Crazy that many people are not aware of that

 

[Grizzled Ghost]

Do we own games from Nintendo, Sony, EA, Ubisoft online services?

No — just like Steam, you're not actually buying the games. You're buying a license to use them under their terms.

Crazy that many people are not aware of that

You understand that that's how discs work too, right? Why do you think you need to insert the game every time you play, even though all the data is downloaded on your system? If you no longer have the disc, you no longer have the license to play the game.

 

[Insolent]

How many Microsoft games are in your current glorious collection? You didn't mention any. Guess you don't have to buy them now that their first party games are all "free" on PC.

I am planning to buy some soon
Gunvalkyrie, Jet Set Radio Future, Crimson Skies, Ninja Gaiden Black, Panzer Dragoon Orta are first on my list
Because of my relocation I had some more important stuff to do lately

If you no longer have the disc, you no longer have the license to play the game.

I am okay with that