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Oscar Nominations 2011 (Jan 25, 8:30am EST/5:30am PST)

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OrangeGrayBlue

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Just wanted to express my support for:

-The Social Network for best picture
-Eisenberg for best actor (haven't seen Firth)
-Natalie Portman for best actress
-Inception for best original score
-Christian Bale for best supporting actor
-Aronofsky as best director (I'd be happy with fincher too)
-The Social Network for best adapted screenplay
-Inception for best original screenplay
-cinematography could really go to anyone and I'll be happy
-Gift Shop for best documentary

any other awards don't concern me too much.
 
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EricHasNoPull

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OrangeGrayBlue said:
It actually won twice :p

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0065234/awards
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Sneaky little Michael Eisenzuckerberg!! you knew about this all this time and didn't bring it to my attention until now!!??

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big ander

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EricHasNoPull said:
I am saying it's obvious to it's viewers, I am merely talking about my own viewing experience, By the end of the film I walked out of the theater thinking that this was all a hoax that symbolized Bansky's Street Art Career and success through pop culture.

If only all movie going audience had to wait to hear what the filmmakers had to say about their film after watching it, the general public doesn't go see a movie for that reason, they go see a movie to be entertained and get something out of it for themselves. And what I got from ETGS was that it was designed to symbolize the general public's attitude towards contemporary "art" or simply question "what is art?" is it the execution of it? is it the artistic intention? among many other questions etc. etc.

The film definitely raised those questions for me after it was finished and coincidentally

I found those questions to be very reflective of Bansky's actual street art that he's been famous for for the past few years. Am I not allow to get that from this movie? "am I doing it wrong" or something? I'm sure I'm not alone in having this opinion about the movie so hence "the obvious".

Yes I think I know what can be categorized as a "documentary" and we can argue till the cows come home that most documentaries out there these days are merely just personal film projects.

I understand that every documentary doesn't have to be a CNN, live raw news footage. It's important that documentaries have a central message and most documentaries for better or worse are manipulated and fine tweaked by the fimmaker(s) to help get that message across to it's audience but... there's a fine line between all that and a work of fiction, scripted film.

The film is label as a "documentary" everywhere sure, but I seriously did not feel like it was one when I finished watching it, but hey!... that's just my personal take on it. take it or leave it.

It's just like a movie being categories as a psychological thriller, but once you done watching it, it maybe feel more like a shallow, horror slasher to you. (just to be clear this is just an example I am using detached from the film in discussion, not saying that I felt that ETGS was the "slasher of "documentaries")
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I never said anything about you not being able to have the opinions you had. If fact, I got the exact same message out of the film that you got. I understand the people who think it's a hoax. All I'm saying is that there is not proof right now to say it's a hoax, so there's no point trying to convince the other side that your side is correct.
The line between fiction and fact in film is certainly a fine one. But that's not a recent development at all. The first feature documentaries were personal film projects.
I get what you mean by films being a different genre than you expect them to be, but I don't think ETTGS can really be thought of like that. You can definitely get something else out of it, but objectively it's a documentary by all of the standards we hold documentaries to.
 
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Veidt

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How come Scores have to be original. While the films that usually in, are adaptations of books no one has read, or uninteresting source matter.
 
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SCULLIBUNDO

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Veidt said:
How come Scores have to be original. While the films that usually in, are adaptations of books no one has read, or uninteresting source matter.
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Erm. You mean like the best ADAPTED screenplay vs best ORIGINAL screenplay?
 
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C4Lukins

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Scullibundo said:
Erm. You mean like the best ADAPTED screenplay vs best ORIGINAL screenplay?
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I guess his argument would be that there is no adapted score equivalent if I understand correctly.

I would like to see a best soundtrack category. Even if many of the songs are licensed, Hollywood so rarely uses songs well in films, and when a movie gets it right it deserves recognition. Of course they are so terrible at even getting the original song category correct that it would probably be another dud category.
 
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big ander

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I'm sticking with my "The Social Network" call. I think it's gonna happen.
"The King's Speech" has gained so much momentum so quickly in the past few weeks that I could even see the momentum swinging back to TSN.
 
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Koodo

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Totally OT, but I love how Modern Family has swept all these Guild awards after losing out the Golden Globe to that other thing.

Back on-topic: I have 4 weeks to see The Social Network, King's Speech, True Grit, and The Kids Are All Right (listed in order of importance).
 
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itxaka

Defeatist
How isn't Tron nominated for special effects while Iron man 2 is? I don't think Iranman was really better than Tron. (Bias here of course :p)

When are the Oscar's ceremony?
 
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TekkenMaster

Banned
Just want to say that I hope Social Network wins. As others have said King's Speech just seems like it was planned as Oscar Bait from the start.

But I'm pretty worried since the DGA almost always picks the Best Picture winner.
 
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BowieZ

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TekkenMaster said:
Just want to say that I hope Social Network wins. As others have said King's Speech just seems like it was planned as Oscar Bait from the start.
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Fair enough, although it's the complete opposite: it's well recorded that it was for much of its life intended to be a light hearted Hugh Grant romp, but Colin Firth's inspiring auditions led the crew to manipulate the script into a slightly more serious period piece.
 
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Solo

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OrangeGrayBlue said:
King's Speech winning would be a real bummer, to me. It's such a vanilla choice.
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Who cares if its vanilla when its so much better than The Social Network (which is the "clearcut" favorite)?
 
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Count of Monte Sawed-Off

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Haven't seen the King's Speech, and while I hear it's an awesome movie, I imagine that it's one of those films no one will think about in a couple of years. I could totally be wrong though.
 
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WrikaWrek

Banned
The Social Network - Good, but why would anybody give it an award? Films like this one are a dime a dozen.

The Kings Speech - Two great characters make the movie, but the movie itself is about as average as bios come.

Inception - Summer blockbuster with brains, but very little balls.

Black Swan - Here's the best movie of the year. People go to the theater and they leave with their brains rocked out, you leave shakin' because it's like you were just ran over by a rollercoaster of emotions. Your blood was pumping, and it felt like it had more action than Inception...yet no gun was fired.

Darren Aranofski totally deserves it, the movie totally deserves it.
 
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jett

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Count of Monte Sawed-Off said:
Haven't seen the King's Speech, and while I hear it's an awesome movie, I imagine that it's one of those films no one will think about in a couple of years. I could totally be wrong though.
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You're pretty much right.
 
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BertramCooper

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jett said:
You're pretty much right.
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Personally, I won't soon forget the performances of Colin Firth and Geoffrey Rush. I don't give a rat's ass if the public forgets about it or not.

It's quite simply a better film than The Social Network, and deserves to win the Oscar over it.
 
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jett

D-Member
BertramCooper said:
Personally, I won't soon forget the performances of Colin Firth and Geoffrey Rush. I don't give a rat's ass if the public forgets about it or not.

It's quite simply a better film than The Social Network, and deserves to win the Oscar over it.
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Geoffrey Rush, really? The guy's on autopilot.
 
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Solo

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jett said:
Geoffrey Rush, really? The guy's on autopilot.
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Fuck NeoGAF for removing smileys, because frankly there isn't a :lol big enough for this pure and utter horseshit. Oh, jett, you really did make me laugh.
 
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jett

D-Member
Solo said:
Fuck NeoGAF for removing smileys, because frankly there isn't a :lol big enough for this pure and utter horseshit. Oh, jett, you really did make me laugh.
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*shrug*

There's absolutely nothing great or interesting about his performance. Next thing you'll be telling me you were also impressed by Helena Bonham Carter. The King's Speech is Collin Firth's one-man show.
 
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Snowman Prophet of Doom

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I'm somewhere in the middle. Geoffrey Rush is certainly very good in The King's Speech, but I wouldn't call it a memorable performance, certainly not in the same ballpark as Firth's.

Jett's also dead on about Helena Bonham Carter, who could just not be in that movie to no real detriment.
 
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Blader

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I wouldn't say there's nothing great about Rush's performance, but it certainly wasn't a difficult one. I'd say the same about Tom Hooper's work as the director -- nothing bad about the work he did, obviously, but nothing wholly memorable about it either.

I disagree that The King's Speech is a one-man show by Firth, but I'd say he was the only one on that film who did anything award-worthy.
 
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Ikael

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The Social Network - A good movie on the technical side, I think it was ultimately, empty and generic, as if the director didn't knew what to say with it, other than wanting to narrate the history of Facebook and get done with it. It strikes me as if it would have worked better as a documentary than a movie. And boy, does it reek of Oscar - bait, even more so than the King's speech.

The Kings Speech - Great movie with terrific performances, the only thing that I can critisize was how it left some character archs uncompleted and a couple of moments when it dragged on for a bit too much for my tastes.

Inception -I love, love Christopher Nolan, but this is not one of his best movies. Intelligent and polished as hell, but way too much flash over little substance.

Toy Story 3 - This is the stuff of the legend guys. Fuck the academy and their allergy to all things animated, and fuck their "best animated movie" ghetto. This have been the best movie on this year, bar none, and one of the best movies in the history of animation. Outstanding script, plot, characterization, camera usage and hell, even the dubbed performance was great.

I have yet to see Black Swan, thought.
 
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jett

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I think I've decided on Black Swan being my favorite movie of 2010. It'd totally love it if it swept the Oscars, but it's looking like a longshot.

I wonder how will win best ensemble cast tonight at the SAGs, I guess the awards competition is a bit more open now with the momentum King's Speech has amassed.
 
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Discotheque

Banned
King's Speech is this year's fucking Frost/Nixon. Average movie with some entertaining true-to-life performances.

Many people are baffled by Social Network's popularity but I'm still scratching my head over King's Speech. uuuh wut?

Scullibundo said:
Look at Nolan. He looks like a happy fan whilst the others are putting on their 'posing with a fan' face.

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Where's the picture of Nolan with Michael Mann. There's another one that fits the description
 
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DMczaf

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Discotheque said:
Where's the picture of Nolan with Michael Mann. There's another one that fits the description
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Nolan is trying to build a time machine so he can get that photo, not with the hack that replaced him.
 
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Discotheque

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My sources tell me he already built a time machine and after some deep investigation it was found out that Kubrick was actually...Nolan
 
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big ander

Member
Just watched The King's Speech. Enjoyed it a lot, and I can see why it's frontrunner. Wasn't my personal favorite even of the BP nominations, but the cinematography and music and acting were great.

I'm still calling a Social Network win, however.
I think the only other movies I'm going to watch before making my full predictions are Dogtooth and Restrepo. I just don't think I'll have the time to see Biutiful, Blue Valentine, or The Illusionist.
 
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Deleted member 30609

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nice to see Helen get a nod for The King's Speech.
 
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Deleted member 30609

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The King's Speech, while a film I found to be really, really endearing and a class-act through and through, is a little more broad in its appeal than TSN, in that in ten years I feel like I'll be able to watch it and it will almost certainly still be a great film. In ten years, The Social Network might not make for the same viewing experience as it does today, for better or worse. It reeks of what's fashionable in 2010 and what will undoubtedly fall out of favour in coming years, and that's why it deserves the best picture award right now. It is a product of the year 2010, not a product that was incidentally released in 2010. It's an odd criteria for awards, but I think it's appropriate.

I can't wait to go watch Black Swan in a few days.
 
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XMonkey

lacks enthusiasm.
Ikael said:
The Social Network - A good movie on the technical side, I think it was ultimately, empty and generic, as if the director didn't knew what to say with it, other than wanting to narrate the history of Facebook and get done with it. It strikes me as if it would have worked better as a documentary than a movie. And boy, does it reek of Oscar - bait, even more so than the King's speech.
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WTF is this? I hate how fashionable it is to use the term oscar-bait lately. Neither films are oscar-bait.
 
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