Someone thinks I owe an apology for Meta GAF because I am a troll.
you are only a troll if you post positive things about Xbox and/or post negative stuff about PlayStation.
Someone thinks I owe an apology for Meta GAF because I am a troll.
That would make half of GAF troll, since they do the reverse all the time.you are only a troll if you post positive things about Xbox and/or post negative stuff about PlayStation.
Make it stop please just make it stop
the lead graphics engine designer laughs at me for stopping every 30 seconds to just rotate the camera and look at the sights and listen to the sounds of their game world. "Everything in the game is PBR with multiple sources of volumetric lighting. All of the characters in this game are unique. You will never see the same character model more than once." As I am playing I realize how difficult this game is. I play several games competitively multiple genres (Smite,R6,SFV,CoD,BF,League) but I am getting my ass handed to me. I take the lead character out into a hallway and two enemies rush into the room shooting and moving in what appears to be a tactical pattern. "Is this fucking guy shooting at me while the other guy is trying to circle around to flank me?" he laughs again. "Yep, suppressive fire." As the enemy shoots at me I take note of the deformation of the geometry on display, chunks of cement give way revealing the metal pipes underneath that hold the structure together. Everything is based in reality including what happens when you shoot people or get shot. Its beautiful but it aint pretty.
I sit the controller down (I'm about to die again anyways) "The game is definitely running at 60fps" he shakes his head at me "No its running at 90fps locked. native 4k." dumb stare "On which machine?" he smiles "Both of them."
Two hours and several drinks later
When I asked about the performance of both consoles his response was "Both have the same target we will see if either of them hit that target. " I pushed further and asked what the target was and his response was simply."Above 12" That is not for the XseX or the PS5,from what I can gather internally both machines are targeting very high performance which lines up with hearing earlier that the machines would both be $499 with both companies Taking a loss.
Notes
The gdk they are working with is not the final kit for either machine and XseX is currently ahead in terms of sheer power. Sonys tool set is much more complete and refined.
The trailer is all actual game play. Not in engine but game play.
Every developer or engineer I have ever met day drinks.
The intro to drugs
There are some true cult members on this site. In the 'next gen' thread the PS5 has gone from being 'disappointing', to 'having features that might close the gap' to 'so far advanced that the others have been left in the dust'.
I mean, look at this amazing nonsense...
FeiRR
This is huge. He's just told the entire industry that Sony left them behind in a puddle of tears. PC hardware will catch up soon but Xbox... Please understand why our games smell of last gen. Please be excited for a mid-gen refresh in 3 years. Please use the cloud in the meanwhile.
No shit.
Rusco Da Vino
This statement leaves Microsoft and the Series X in a really bad position. Just imagine Phil Spencer reading this.
The backtracking, crow-eating (yet again), claims of press bias and lazy devs when this doesn't turn out to be true will be epic.
(Pardon the quote style, I'm reply banned in that thread. )
This is huge. He's just told the entire industry that Sony left them behind in a puddle of tears. PC hardware will catch up soon but Xbox... Please understand why our games smell of last gen. Please be excited for a mid-gen refresh in 3 years. Please use the cloud in the meanwhile.
A mid-gen refresh will not fix this
It's so advanced military and NASA will replace their supercomputers with just 1 PS5.So, the PS5 is so advanced, that even a mid-gen refresh in 3 years will be worse than PS5 in terms of graphical power. WTF are they smoking? Seriously?!
haha! everyone is reply banned in that thread. The reason the mod gave me for the reply ban was that they thought "I was a edgy teen". Funniest thing I've ever read.wait.. are these actual posts or just joke posts? Must be the latter. This can't be real.
Oh shit:
And the reply is:
Source: https://www.neogaf.com/threads/next...-analysis-leaks-thread.1480978/post-258484341
So, the PS5 is so advanced, that even a mid-gen refresh in 3 years will be worse than PS5 in terms of graphical power. WTF are they smoking? Seriously?!
Didn't take long for it to get closed.New Xbox SSD thread
And the mods closed it.Next Gen Phison NVMe SSD Controllers comparisons - Upto 7 GB/s
We know that the Xbox Series X SSD is based on the Phison PS5019-E19T. But how does it compare to other upcoming or existing Phison Controllers ? https://www.anandtech.com/show/14728/phison-previews-nextgen-ps5018e18-pcie-40-ssd-controller-up-to-7-gbs-nvme-14 At FMS 2019, Phison shared the...www.neogaf.com
Didn't take long for it to get closed.
I feel like GAF wants to ban the mention of E18 now, since its faster than the PS5 SSD. Also, they changed my user tag but not these guys.disingenuous, deliberately misrepresenting material, burying it amongst technical data
The intro to drugs
It seems to me that Sony/Cerny chose higher quality accessories/console design over a higher Teraflops count. (A Risky Move)
Hear me out. Ever since the reveal of the luxurious looking DualSense controller and the state-of-the-art SSD, I began to realize Sony and Cerny's approach to focus their budget on other components instead of putting every egg into the basket that is the GPU. While 10.2 Teraflops is a...www.neogaf.comDo you think PlayStation 5's exclusives will develop more quickly because of the SSD/System Architecture? (< 1 month development triangle)
I have a feeling that First Party titles for the PS5 will be developed at a much quicker pace compared to the PS4's generation because of the new innovations in the console architecture. The fact that Spiderman 2 and God of War 2 are rumored to come out next year tells me something's really...www.neogaf.comThe PlayStation 5 will dictate Future tech tendencies when It comes to hardware
The Sony's new console have taken a New step forward when offering developers not Just an easy and pleasureable platform to develope for all around, but also a platform that removes old barriers of creation for giving instant data transfer and access with almost unlimited amount of data thanks...www.neogaf.comThe PlayStation 5 GPU Will Be Supported By Better Hardware Solutions, In Depth Analysis Suggests
The PlayStation 5 will feature a weaker GPU, compared to the Xbox Series X, but developers continue to praise the console. The raw specs are definitely not painting the whole picture about the new consoles, and a recent in-depth analysis suggests that the Sony next-gen console's GPU will have a...www.neogaf.com
Didn't they give you any reason? I got a warning for posting one of GAFs own website advertisements for a g**f game, they said it's a TLOU2 spoiler. Somethimes they are a bit thin-skinned here.I feel like GAF wants to ban the mention of E18 now, since its faster than the PS5 SSD. Also, they changed my user tag but not these guys.
Seems like we're going in the direction of the old NeoGAF....
I feel like GAF wants to ban the mention of E18 now, since its faster than the PS5 SSD. Also, they changed my user tag but not these guys.
Still better than Bish’s bullshit. And they do at least make an effort at moderating everybody now. It doesn’t always feel equitable but it’s a hell of a lot better than back in the day IMO
Didn't take long for it to get closed.
Meh... If we don't watch out we'll end up there again. I don't know how many moderators there are, but, right now in terms of ratios, it seems that 1 favors the Xbox, 2 or 3 are neutral, and 15 favor PS.Still better than Bish’s bullshit. And they do at least make an effort at moderating everybody now. It doesn’t always feel equitable but it’s a hell of a lot better than back in the day IMO
Fuck off. Saying my Cerny thread was an intro to drug is insulting.The intro to drugs
It seems to me that Sony/Cerny chose higher quality accessories/console design over a higher Teraflops count. (A Risky Move)
Hear me out. Ever since the reveal of the luxurious looking DualSense controller and the state-of-the-art SSD, I began to realize Sony and Cerny's approach to focus their budget on other components instead of putting every egg into the basket that is the GPU. While 10.2 Teraflops is a...www.neogaf.comDo you think PlayStation 5's exclusives will develop more quickly because of the SSD/System Architecture? (< 1 month development triangle)
I have a feeling that First Party titles for the PS5 will be developed at a much quicker pace compared to the PS4's generation because of the new innovations in the console architecture. The fact that Spiderman 2 and God of War 2 are rumored to come out next year tells me something's really...www.neogaf.comThe PlayStation 5 will dictate Future tech tendencies when It comes to hardware
The Sony's new console have taken a New step forward when offering developers not Just an easy and pleasureable platform to develope for all around, but also a platform that removes old barriers of creation for giving instant data transfer and access with almost unlimited amount of data thanks...www.neogaf.comThe PlayStation 5 GPU Will Be Supported By Better Hardware Solutions, In Depth Analysis Suggests
The PlayStation 5 will feature a weaker GPU, compared to the Xbox Series X, but developers continue to praise the console. The raw specs are definitely not painting the whole picture about the new consoles, and a recent in-depth analysis suggests that the Sony next-gen console's GPU will have a...www.neogaf.com
I've wondered if it's inevitable over time, at least to some degree. After the big bust up this place was reasonably even handed for awhile and certainly more open generally. However the other place is very heavy on the ban-hammer and as posters get weeded out over there, some are likely to drift back to Gaf, adding to the slow degredation in tone.Seems like we're going in the direction of the old NeoGAF....
No thread on this forum is a bigger embarrassment than the next-gen speculation thread.Xbox fans keep seething lol
Why don't you guys join hands with your fellow GAFers instead of looking for a devil under every rock? This thread is an embarrassment to the Xbox fanbase and to the forum.
Yeah but speculation is a hotbed for embarrassment anyway, what's new?No thread on this forum is a bigger embarrassment than the next-gen speculation thread.
100,000+ posts and endorsed by the Mods themselves.No thread on this forum is a bigger embarrassment than the next-gen speculation thread.
You want memes? Here's one;100,000+ posts and endorsed by the Mods themselves.
Consider yourselves lucky that everyone else see you guys as the Emos of GAF, so enjoy gossiping and bitching about other GAFFers like a bunch of school girls.
This was the best you can do?You want memes? Here's one;
This was the best you can do?
Genuinely sad. Continue what you Emos like to do, I'll be joining other threads where actual discussions are taking place.
No thread on this forum is a bigger embarrassment than the next-gen speculation thread.
Nope if you believe the XSX with its virtualisation and bloated apis / file systems and slow IO will come close to ps5 for streaming high quality assets its you who has been duped.
I will predict we will see NOTHING close to equivalent image quality on XSX for years, just current gen at higher resolutions and frame rates (You will win DF on those, you will have victories on Jaguar games ), but we will have high quality asset gaming on Ps5 shown in about a week or 2, not long now. You KNOW whats coming dont you.
Also you understand pipeline, faster I/O and assets speeds up part of the pipeline..that 15 % starter has to deal with slower abstraction layers and slower caches (Ghz) .....mmm..
Unreal demo that was shown says the opposite, I predict we wont see anything close to that image quality on XSX for a long time.
XSX will come out ahead for current gen games (made for jaguar and HDD)
For true next gen high asset streaming, made of zen2 and fast SSD games, Ps5 will win comfortably.
Where is your funny XBOX power meme bro? It has the be the reason you popped in here right?Yeah but speculation is a hotbed for embarrassment anyway, what's new?
This is supposed to be about sharing funny memes. The thread isn't supposed to become a meme about how Xbox fans are as paranoid and bitter as the Chad Wardens and Sony Ponies of the internet sphere paint them to be.
No I was making fun of all you serious tryhards getting butthurt about a console instead of reveling in your brand superiority and making funny memes.Where is your funny XBOX power meme bro? It has the be the reason you popped in here right?
And yet, what you react to is exactly what you claim not to visit the thread for, rather than actually reacting to the memes that were posted, and there were a ton of them. So maybe, rather than whining, react to one of those instead, and bring the thread back on-topic? Just an idea, if that is what you are really actually truly here for.No I was making fun of all you serious tryhards getting butthurt about a console instead of reveling in your brand superiority and making funny memes.
When I visit a thread about Xbox power king memes, I'm not visiting to read clandestine, paranoid screeds about Xbox oppression and hidden agendas.
I stoped visiting GAF because of this.Fuck you are right.
I was banned for this post:
Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD
Dude why? What am I supposed to do now? Get creative? I mean it's a PS3 controller, so you can take a trip down memory lane, or think of possible backwards compatibility on PS5 or... you know?www.neogaf.com
So, saying:
XBOX SERIES S WILL HOLD BACK XBOX SERIES X!!! is ok.
But saying that for multiplatform games the ssd won’t make that much of difference, because devs won’t optimize their games based on a SSD of a single platform will result in a ban.
yeah right.
I'll close the door on my way out. Sorry for interrupting, conspirators I mean hilarious meme makers.And yet, what you react to is exactly what you claim not to visit the thread for, rather than actually reacting to the memes that were posted, and there were a ton of them. So maybe, rather than whining, react to one of those instead, and bring the thread back on-topic? Just an idea, if that is what you are really actually truly here for.
I'll close the door on my way out. Sorry for interrupting, conspirators I mean hilarious meme makers.
Yeah but speculation is a hotbed for embarrassment anyway, what's new?
This is supposed to be about sharing funny memes. The thread isn't supposed to become a meme about how Xbox fans are as paranoid and bitter as the Chad Wardens and Sony Ponies of the internet sphere paint them to be.
I stoped visiting GAF because of this.
you see rarely a Sony ban.. and if, then it's only for a couple of day, like 3-7 days max. with xbox its at least 14 days or straight perm.
Absolute gold. Well done sir.The SSD makes it quicker.
I guess we're just waiting until the PS5 and Series X have their official events. Who knows? There may be plenty of memes after that. I'm collecting train crash clips just in case. I have a feeling that I'm going to need them.No I was making fun of all you serious tryhards getting butthurt about a console instead of reveling in your brand superiority and making funny memes.
When I visit a thread about Xbox power king memes, I'm not visiting to read clandestine, paranoid screeds about Xbox oppression and hidden agendas.
Just having a quick laugh here at the memes, doesn't hurt, and it is concentrated in this single thread ? Does not look so bad in my opinionXbox fans keep seething lol
Why don't you guys join hands with your fellow GAFers instead of looking for a devil under every rock? This thread is an embarrassment to the Xbox fanbase and to the forum.
I really thought it was a joke thread at first, but I think people there are serious.
BTW, did you guys get the memo?
apparently, PS5 games will all look way better, and XSX games will look like current gen games, all due to the magical power of the SSD. XSX games will only look better for "jaguar" games. Only true nextgen games on PS5, XSX will still deliver only currentgen games lol
Well you're annoying sure, but I hope you don't get banned.This thread has become a cesspool of bitching and gossiping from soon-to-be-banned members.
UE% demo already looks better than anything that will be possible on XSX, its tough but it is what it is.
There is no way of knowing of that right now.