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OUYA - A new $99 console powered by Android [Kickstarter ended, $8.5 million funded]
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Dreams-Visions
Member
in4$100
Nah, Mali 400 is quite a bit faster than the Tegra 3 GPU. 1.5x to 2x.
No problem. It's a great SoC for anything other than playing 3D games.
There are tons of devices like that, many of them running Android. Some of them are even cheaper than the Ouya.
pcostabel
Gold Member
It's actually a good thing that the hardware is underpowered. The whole point of this platform is to give indie developers an opportunity to create games that don't have to compete with AAA budgeted heavyweights. If the Ouya were as powerful as a PS3, it would attract the big guys resulting in a similar situation as the one in the console market, where mid tier games have all but disappeared.
I don't want Ouya developers to waste their time with COD clones, I want new, fresh, quirky games that I can't play on my PS3. Hardware limitations are a springboard for creativity and daring projects. Please Ouya people, keep the hardware specs as they are.
I don't want Ouya developers to waste their time with COD clones, I want new, fresh, quirky games that I can't play on my PS3. Hardware limitations are a springboard for creativity and daring projects. Please Ouya people, keep the hardware specs as they are.
I don't get the demand for stretch goals. They also have to pay the parts for the additional backers. Sure they will make more bucks, but I wouldn't hold my breath that they will upgrade the specs.
Also why spend now money on this a 3/4 year before release, if it seems to be also released for 99$? It doesn't make sense IMO now after funding is already succesfull.
Maybe there will be (better) alternatives next year?!
Also why spend now money on this a 3/4 year before release, if it seems to be also released for 99$? It doesn't make sense IMO now after funding is already succesfull.
Maybe there will be (better) alternatives next year?!
The 440+ MHz clock rates reached by the 32nm Mali-400 MP4 found in the Exynos 4412 can achieve that kind of performance advantage over a Tegra 3, but the 45nm versions of the GPU typically clocked to 267 MHz and are edged out by Tegra 3 in graphics performance.
Of course, 45nm Mali based devices launched several months ahead of any Tegra 3.
As for Ouya, a highly clocked APE5R should've been used for performance/cost.
Of course, 45nm Mali based devices launched several months ahead of any Tegra 3.
As for Ouya, a highly clocked APE5R should've been used for performance/cost.
dancrane212
Member
It went up from 20.000 devices to 80.000. They'll keep doing this to raise more money and to garner how many are interested in the product.
SquiddyCracker
Banned
Love this concept but will just wait and see what teh games for it are and it's media playing capabilities on the TV.
Would be a great little streaming box, with the games just being a bonus.
Wish they did go that little bit extra with the controller, just to make even more games possible.
Throw in an accelerometer in there!
Would be a great little streaming box, with the games just being a bonus.
Wish they did go that little bit extra with the controller, just to make even more games possible.
Throw in an accelerometer in there!
Sounds very promising.
I just like to see the whole controller. Is there a digi-pad? Does it have 4 shoulder buttons? Important to me for emulation.
And hopefully there will be a spotify-app for this thing. I'd love to hear Musik without having to hook up a pc to my TV. (Have a work/gaming TV, can't write on the TV, find it cumbersome to change rooms with the tower all the time).
I just like to see the whole controller. Is there a digi-pad? Does it have 4 shoulder buttons? Important to me for emulation.
And hopefully there will be a spotify-app for this thing. I'd love to hear Musik without having to hook up a pc to my TV. (Have a work/gaming TV, can't write on the TV, find it cumbersome to change rooms with the tower all the time).
This worries me, as I'm not entirely confident that can build and ship these for $99. I hope they've worked out their costs well. I guess it's good for developer support though and I wouldn't be surprised if they sell out that 80k. Anyone hoping reaching stretch goals is going to result in better specs is in for disappointment. Even with the cost of components coming down by the time they hit production margins are going to be super-thin.
All the prototypes in the video seem to include a digi-pad. Four shoulder buttons is confirmed. As for Spotify, I guess it's just a matter of convincing Spotify to port their Android app to it, which would be a relatively small amount of work.
They ask you to add 20 for shipping don't they? Or is that just out of the US?
Minsc
Gold Member
The more they can sell, the better deal they can get on component pricing. You're allowed to raise the amount of items available in a tier on Kickstarter at any time, a lot of campaigns do it. It's just trickier when you raise a limited edition item, as you're decreasing its worth by making more of them, but even that is done (I think Wasteland 2 did this).
Outside of the US.
Hunter-Zero
Member
Just for the people out of the US
yes
Five rolls of duct tape Gamecubed together.
It's 3-6 Wiis duct-taped together.
JosephManderley
Member
Wow!
Sega should kickstart a new Dreamcast!
I'd be interested in this, but I am concerned they wont supply the required power brick and stuff for the UK?
Sega should kickstart a new Dreamcast!
I'd be interested in this, but I am concerned they wont supply the required power brick and stuff for the UK?
I'm thinking of pulling out of my pledging of $149 for Ouya.
Having slept on it, I probably don't have a NEED for this. I backed it because of the Android games on my HDTV with a dedicated controller to play games like Canabalt, Another World, Broken Sword and all those 2D games as well as card games.
But I won't use it as a media box. I got a Mac Mini, Apple TV, iOS devices and Airplay, PS3, Wii and Xbox 360 as well as a stationary Windows PC all hooked up to the TV already.
And I won't play with emulators. I'm only interested in the Mario games, Snatcher and MGS1, which all should be able to run on my mobile iOS and Android devices someday.
If I decide to withdraw, how do I do it before it's too late?
But really, the primary reason if I pull out would be, so that I can spent the money on the rumored iPad Mini.
Having slept on it, I probably don't have a NEED for this. I backed it because of the Android games on my HDTV with a dedicated controller to play games like Canabalt, Another World, Broken Sword and all those 2D games as well as card games.
But I won't use it as a media box. I got a Mac Mini, Apple TV, iOS devices and Airplay, PS3, Wii and Xbox 360 as well as a stationary Windows PC all hooked up to the TV already.
And I won't play with emulators. I'm only interested in the Mario games, Snatcher and MGS1, which all should be able to run on my mobile iOS and Android devices someday.
If I decide to withdraw, how do I do it before it's too late?
But really, the primary reason if I pull out would be, so that I can spent the money on the rumored iPad Mini.
Mithos
Member
It's the lack of pure plug-and-play...
Having to find the correct input-port on the TV that supports/are pre-set for PC-signal, and/or find it in the menu to assigning the port on TV to accept PC-input signal, and THEN maybe even find some setting on the computer to send the signal correct so its not bigger then the TV or smaller, not talking resolution, but getting the images to FILL the entire screen and not being bigger or smaller then FULLSCREEN (1:1 pixelmapping).
And on top of this the way do fix all of this, is different between different brands on TV's AND graphics-cards, aka lack of pure plug-and-play.
Actually considering the same myself. Just bought a WDTV Live Streaming player last night, waiting for a Nexus 7 to arrive and got a pretty good PC for gaming so all of my bases are covered really.
That said, I'm still curious what can be done with this box. 28 days left to decide though.
mclaren777
Member
$450k to $2.5m in roughly 16 hours. 
Fantastical
Death Prophet
This is what that crazy Bob Game buy should have done the nD, even though that thing never had a chance.
Ehh? You're never going to get to play those on those platforms without emulators.
Exactly, and emulators are available on my Android and iOS devices.
BruiserBear
Banned
The people working on this have worked on similar projects before. I'm sure they know their costs.
But I agree, margins will be very thin. Specs are very unlikely to change for that price.
I wonder how this will pan out in the long run. In a way their embracing of hacking makes me think they're going to have a lot of trouble selling software. If I bought one my main use would be as an emulator box. I'm assuming Sega Naomi ports wouldn't be possible on this hardware?
Isn't it more of a lack of barriers to entry that promotes indie games than outdated hardware which forces indie games to be designed?
Optimistic Gamer
Member
I might get one to emulate my SNES games on it. Pretty neat machine for this kind of experiments even though i could easily do that on my PC. I just guess this will be way less power consuming and subtile.
I doubt it. There was a vapourware Dreamcast emulator for Android a while ago, but I can't imagine you'd be able to emulate that class of hardware at full-speed.
Bomber Bob
Banned
SHENMUE III for BOOYA
Hero_of_the_Day
Member
I'm just worried about how quickly they'll be able to get them out. I doubt they can get 80k made and shipped as quickly as they can get 20k out. But yeah, anyone thinking they are going to add more ram or something now that they have more money are very wrong. I would have liked another gig of ram and SD card slot though.
EDIT: Holy shit at how much it's raised so far. Thinking we'll easily get to 3.5 million today.