It's not that you are hiding behind someone, it's that you have been only responding to questions, and not given any real insight in terms of hunting scum.
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Overwatch Mafia |OT| Keep Your Vote On The Payload
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It's not that you are hiding behind someone, it's that you have been only responding to questions, and not given any real insight in terms of hunting scum.
I've been busy today. Just been reading the newest posts while sitting in a bookstore.
ok, sure. Please try to put down your thoughts before the day ends
Can I get a tl;Dr on verelious. He's been one of those players flying completely under my radar, which is worrying.
You really need me to spell out how claming there isn't a cop in a role madness game is a red flag? I withdrew my vote on Mazre because I explicitly said that I would withdraw it if Mazre could come back and explain his thoughts. I only voted him to prod him to into responding.
I'll answer this one at least. I like Day 1. Seemingly Inconsequential banter and how people react to things are actually decent indicators of alignment, IMO.
Barry has been pretty much non-existent this game, and even his "peeking" summary is something I tried to pull in Heist to seem more contributive than I actually was being. Obviously that just happened, but before that post it just felt like something was off.
I explained Verelios earlier. Fluff and jumping on my clarification. Low-hanging fruit.
Ty I explained too. Entirely too agreeable and seems to discuss very safe topics.
Burb I have my eye on, cause I know others don't agree, but he seems a bit more aggressive than usual.
Zeke is my newest suspect, giving the same old D1 excuse everyone gives, and I'm confident if he was Town he'd be trying a bit harder.
Apologies for not posting last night, by time I got home GAF was down for maintenance.
Nin and Bronx just brought something up (at least, this is what took away from their comments)
Would it be a good idea to do a no lynch today? We're all power roles, so if we take out town accidentally with our lynch that's a possibly two town roles gone by Day 2. Well, more or less than two, depending on if there's a Vig/Sk/really lucky Doctor
Would the info gained from today's lynch outweigh the cost of those roles?
I know No Lynch's aren't that popular, but is this a situation where it might be helpful? Also, is that just like a normal vote where majority goes through? (I'd assume so, just want to make sure I understand it correctly).
And for the record, count me as on board with the peeking if we decide to do it.
Nin and Bronx just brought something up (at least, this is what took away from their comments)
Would it be a good idea to do a no lynch today? We're all power roles, so if we take out town accidentally with our lynch that's a possibly two town roles gone by Day 2. Well, more or less than two, depending on if there's a Vig/Sk/really lucky Doctor
Would the info gained from today's lynch outweigh the cost of those roles?
I know No Lynch's aren't that popular, but is this a situation where it might be helpful? Also, is that just like a normal vote where majority goes through? (I'd assume so, just want to make sure I understand it correctly).
And for the record, count me as on board with the peeking if we decide to do it.
Tl:dr:
Mass claims ( not cool idead from my pov )
Peeking idea ( i dont really know how that would turn out on GAF)
kyan claiming to be vanilla tow
you putting down a vote on Verelios and removing it shortly later just to come back now after looking at the potential damage you have done and putting it back on him.
C'MON SON
I don't know what is odd about my Verelios vote. I just moved down my list. It's D1 so I'm looking for reactions and whatnot. I'm back on Verelios now since it seems more likely a lynch than any of my other suspects.
melonrabbit
Member
On mobile. Sorry.
Fran - Flew under the radar until the peeking discussion came up and still hasn't been able to let that go. Quick to latched onto ideas as he followed Marze "no cop" and later attacking (misidentifying) originator of the idea. Weakly linking people together, throws a lot out there but does ltitle to back it up. Hates D1 bullshit but still pushes for an inactive lynch. Ends up with a vote on Stan of all people because a he wanted the cop to claim? Which is a strange back and forth anyhow. Magically appear as soon as I mention I may likely vote for him.
Fran - Flew under the radar until the peeking discussion came up and still hasn't been able to let that go. Quick to latched onto ideas as he followed Marze "no cop" and later attacking (misidentifying) originator of the idea. Weakly linking people together, throws a lot out there but does ltitle to back it up. Hates D1 bullshit but still pushes for an inactive lynch. Ends up with a vote on Stan of all people because a he wanted the cop to claim? Which is a strange back and forth anyhow. Magically appear as soon as I mention I may likely vote for him.
at least thats more than you did. Sorry but for now you are doing the same as last game. Coasting and trying not to be offensive to anyone.
Not a fan. As we will gain information from the player that will be lynched. Ofc it will hurt and in the end there will be several people who will say "i told you not to lynch" him but its in order to gather information. Especially with a game like this were it is filled with roles.
It stood out to me Ouro. Nothing more , as you have said its Day uno hermano.
I just hope there won't be a domino effect today with everyone in the lynch zone claiming their role. We might end up with lots of roles claimed.
In this kind of setup its very likely to happen lol
melonrabbit
Member
This isn't what you said orginally. You said it was a little odd but not a scum tell.
Only after Sophia called you and you added that stipulation. You first said that his absence was suspicious enough for you. The post were you mention your unvote you say half the reason you are doing so is because Cabot called it an easy lynch, despite the fact you didn't understand Marze's response to your supposed prodding.
There are some inconsistencies here.
I would just be very careful with the role claims. With 22 players and 22 heroes, it's going to come down to what the ability is that is being claimed. If a scum claims to be a doctor, we don't want the real doctor to come forward and say "that's BS, because I am the doctor!"
Granted I'm not sure what the alternative is to calling out a fake claim here, but just something to consider.
Which is disappointing. Since I would like to get in contact with him before the day ends.
It's also possible that the scum have abilities that are also plausible for town. Or even fake claims, you never know with Sorian.
- I'm throwing a lot out there to look for reactions, as a lot of people here. As we all should be doing.
- I voted for TheGoddamn because he made 3 bad post. All he talked about was the mass roleclaim. I didn't liked that. In the first day it seemed enought to me.
- I have already said why Stan idea to let cop keep the info was bad. But voted for Stan because if he turns put to be it gives a different look on several players, including you as he was in the center of mayor matter (peek talk). That's a lot more that we can gain if we lynch someone else.
- I magically appeared? I have been here all morning. Boss took the day of so I have time. And I didn't responded to your post, Cabot did.
Xamtheking
Member
Oh don't you worry Nin. I'll have plenty of scars to leave you when I'm done.
Just woke up, so I'm still reading stuff. There were a lot of posts since I went to bed. I'm against Ynnek's idea to no lynch, of course, but I'm not certain where to put my vote yet.
Red flag =/= scumtell
I thought his absence was suspicious, which is why I voted him to prod him into coming back. Mazre's response isn't exactly what I wanted, but I still said I would unvote if he could give some type of response. Everything he's posted is too sloppy to be from scum, and I've seen first hand that the whole "THIS DOESN'T MAKE SENSE, HE'S SCUM" line of attack hardly ever works for capturing scum and pretty much causes town to lose nearly every game.
You think so? I mean I'm not exactly town reading him either, but I'm not seeing the "scum" so to speak.
Maybe this is why I do manual vote counts. People can't spell.
Had to get you back for the snark earlier Barry
Vote count in a sec, I'm caught up now.
Could you elaborate on the off or is it just gut?
What are your feelings on fran? I don't remember seeing any from you.
It feels like a really big coincidence that Xam just happens to arrive the moment people start to question where he is. There was just a few minutes delay.
Which would point to him keeping close tabs on the thread, but not posting. Why?
That is something to consider.
Sorry, didn't refresh and see this.
Hmm... it's hard to get a read on Xam just off that. I agree with the sentiment that it sounds like he's checking the thread more often than he's posting tho.
Waiting for a vote count to see who else besides Ouro is on Verelios.
That's the thing thought. If that person claims doc. How should town react to that ? Since almost every time town did not believe that and called bs. In the end killing doc on day1. But I would be one of those that would call out BS since I am sceptical about every claim that is done near the end of the day.
Ok, cool. Your thoughts on what town should do if the person that is going to feel the axe claims doc or any other thing ?
The way you deal with any claim at that point, given the evidence, make a decision if you trust the claim or not.
Xamtheking
Member
I have a class that gets out at 10:45, normally I would be posting during said class but today we took a midterm so I couldn't browse during it
Vote Count:
Mazre (3)
Xamtheking
Bronx-Man
Haly
StanleyPalmetree
Verelios (1)
Ouro
cabot
Ouro
Barrylocke (1)
Ouro
Ty4on
Ty4on (1)
Mazre
*Splinter
Ouro
melonrabbit (1)
Mazre
AbsolutBro (1)
Burbeting
EzekelRAGE
WhereAreMahDragonz (1)
cabot
EzekelRAGE (1)
Barrylocke
StanleyPalmtree (1)
franconp
franconp (1)
EzekelRAGE
Kyanrute (0)
Burbeting
*Splinter (0)
nin1000
nin1000 (0)
Haly
melonrabbit
Ynnek7 (0)
cabot
Haly (0)
Ty4on
cabot
TheGoddamn (0)
cabot
franconp
12 votes needed for majority
Mazre (3)
Xamtheking
Haly
StanleyPalmetree
Verelios (1)
Ouro
Barrylocke (1)
Ty4on
Ty4on (1)
*Splinter
melonrabbit (1)
Mazre
AbsolutBro (1)
Burbeting
WhereAreMahDragonz (1)
cabot
EzekelRAGE (1)
Barrylocke
StanleyPalmtree (1)
franconp
franconp (1)
EzekelRAGE
Kyanrute (0)
*Splinter (0)
nin1000 (0)
Ynnek7 (0)
Haly (0)
TheGoddamn (0)
12 votes needed for majority
It was his first post. I don't know why, but this stuck out for me, like trying to distance himself from Kyan at the outset. (And if Barry flips scum, I'll have to consider Kyan scum for now).
Eh, that's a bit of a stretch, IMO
This is why I heavily, heavily disagree with mass claiming. If this is anything like WWE Mafia, scum could easily fake claim and start strategize on which of the most important PRs to take out.
melonrabbit
Member
1. I agree with your first point but I think your method of doing so has been fairly weak and half-hearted.
2. It was mainly the jump from TheG to Stan that was surprising. Why not prod another inactive?
3. I'm fine if you think Stan is scum but your reasoning for lynching him seems to suggest you aren't and would rather sacrifice someone for the greater good. You really stuck on the peeking thing as though it was a very enlightening talk for you.
4. You don't need to get defensive. I was simply curious that you said you had to go and immediately popped back into the conversation when I posted my suspicions and tried to link a connection between Rage and me. Felt strange.
How do you feel about Sophia?
As long as he tries to react or engage with us in the following minutes or hours I don't see that as scummy as you are seeing atm. If that however is his last post for the day, then yes it will have a scummy taste on my beautiful mouth.
Xamtheking
Member
That's a tough question
Normally, I would be for not axing a potential doc, but with every single townie (and scum) being a PR, potentially losing a doctor might not be as bad
Just me :'(
melonrabbit
Member
Sorry to let you down, doc.
What if we did hit a doc claim?
nin you seem to lean to moving onwards, but if we hit a doc, switch to a new target and he claims cop for instance, and they are both telling the truth then we have given scum two targets?
Is that a better solution than just lynching a doc in a game full of PRs?