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Overwatch Mafia |OT| Keep Your Vote On The Payload

*Splinter

Member
Allow me to assist you, because I was already checking your posts.











I think I got everything, but I'm not... quote convinced? Just the way it flows from Ezekel being a "late bloomer if he's town" to suddenly voting for him doesn't sit right with me, Ouro. :

You also have fairly few posts on him too...
Thanks Soph.

The odd thing here is that Ouro seems to add Zeke as a new read about three times. He's in the first list, then hes mentioned as being a replacement for Xam in the next lost, then he's Ouro's "newest read" in another post.

It's like 50 first dates but scumreads

Probably. I haven't seen 50 first dates.
 

Sophia

Member
Understandable. He's probably tied with Burb as my "least likely to be scum" out of that list. I've said that I'd rather go for Verelios or Ty, but if that's not going to happen today I'll move down the list.

So.... he's least likely to be scum, but you still think he's scum so you're voting for him?

Does this sound off to anyone else? I've had a bad feeling about Ouro, but Ezekel is a hard read too for me.
 

franconp

Member
I want to everyone notice that we have a tie right now between Mazre and ezekel. Let's try to vote early to avoid problems. I'm thinking of switching my vote to ezekel as he is also a part in my big conspiracy theory #thetruthisoutthere
 

Ourobolus

Banned
Thanks Soph.

The odd thing here is that Ouro seems to add Zeke as a new read about three times. He's in the first list, then hes mentioned as being a replacement for Xam in the next lost, then he's Ouro's "newest read" in another post.

It's like 50 first dates but scumreads

Probably. I haven't seen 50 first dates.
The first list was just a list of quiet players I wanted to hear more from.
The second list is where I added him to my scum list.
The third list was reiterating my reads for Ty because you guys can't remember anything :p
 
:O

This is an outrage.

I'm speechless.

Unbelievable.

Bro is completely out of line. I feel you.

Ouro and Cabot are discussion leaders, and while it wouldn't be a first for scum to take discussion leads, I do not really get a scum vibe from either of them just yet. Ty4on is up there as well I suppose, but I honestly blur his and melonrabbit's posts together because for whatever reason their avatars blur together for me. It's weird. Honestly not sure which is pulling the other down.

The hell is this?

You can't recognize the iconic Sony character Delsin Rowe?
 

Ourobolus

Banned
So.... he's least likely to be scum, but you still think he's scum so you're voting for him?

Does this sound off to anyone else? I've had a bad feeling about Ouro, but Ezekel is a hard read too for me.
"Least likely to be scum out of my scum candidates." Meaning that the people NOT on that list are even less likely to be scum. Consider he and Burb tied for 4th for my top scum - does that make more sense?
 

nin1000

Banned
i will follow my gut this time.

VOTE: Ynnek7

the way you play is faar to similar to the last time, you seem to love to coast and i dont like that at all
 

Ty4on

Member
Ty4on also asked (someone) about Fran which isn't explicitly negative but definitely keeps him in the conversation.

It's just a possibility, with so many people on 1 vote it doesn't take much for anyone to become a lynch candidate.

Melon posted why she found fran scummy, cabot disagreed with melon so I wanted his side.
 

Sophia

Member
"Least likely to be scum out of my scum candidates." Meaning that the people NOT on that list are even less likely to be scum. Consider he and Burb tied for 4th for my top scum - does that make more sense?

Vaguely makes more sense, yeah. But you still think he's scum, then?

I mean, Ezekel's posting style combined with his switcharoo on his opinion of Fran gives me pause. It reminds me of how he was in Gods, where he was scum (or scum god, rather, but...)

At the same time, I'm not entirely sold on you. So pardon me if I ask you more questions. In the last post I quoted, what were you referring to by "giving the same old D1 excuse everyone gives" ? Because you didn't mention that until that post.
 

Ourobolus

Banned
Vaguely makes more sense, yeah. But you still think he's scum, then?

I mean, Ezekel's posting style combined with his switcharoo on his opinion of Fran gives me pause. It reminds me of how he was in Gods, where he was scum (or scum god, rather, but...)

At the same time, I'm not entirely sold on you. So pardon me if I ask you more questions. In the last post I quoted, what were you referring to by "giving the same old D1 excuse everyone gives" ? Because you didn't mention that until that post.
Yes, I'm still leaning that way.

As for D1 excuses - "it's D1, nothing to go on, etc. etc.," without presenting an opinion.
 
Now it's a party.

Is... Is that the guy in your avatar or Ty's?

I will vote for you, good sir. If you push this anymore.

i will follow my gut this time.

VOTE: Ynnek7

the way you play is faar to similar to the last time, you seem to love to coast and i dont like that at all

This actually makes a lot of sense to me. I am ware that Ynnek is once again coasting. I would be down for a Ynnek vote, since there is little traction with Bronx or Fran from people.
 

Sophia

Member
Yes, I'm still leaning that way.

As for D1 excuses - "it's D1, nothing to go on, etc. etc.," without presenting an opinion.

Hmm... okay. Looking back, I do see the post of this from him, and where you questioned him now.

I'm not entirely sold that Ezekel is scum, but I'm leaning that way because of meta behaviour. I do, however, have a better town read of you so that's confidence inspiring seeing as you're leading conversations.
 
So.... he's least likely to be scum, but you still think he's scum so you're voting for him?

Does this sound off to anyone else? I've had a bad feeling about Ouro, but Ezekel is a hard read too for me.
"Least likely" doesn't mean "not scum". Frankly, until we see proof otherwise, every player should consider every other player to be scum.

Bro is completely out of line. I feel you.
The hell is this?
You can't recognize the iconic Sony character Delsin Rowe?
I... have no idea who that is. Google says the inFamous games, which I have never played.

I think he's one of those people who doesn't go into Gaming-side
Oddly I have gone into gaming a lot more lately, but as I have relapsed to WoW since Legion came out, my already glacial pace for purchasing and playing games has slowed even more.
 

Ty4on

Member
I will vote for you, good sir. If you push this anymore.



This actually makes a lot of sense to me. I am ware that Ynnek is once again coasting. I would be down for a Ynnek vote, since there is little traction with Bronx or Fran from people.

I actually thought your avatar was a girl...

Anyhow, I don't quite follow your accusations of fran. He's townie for me for being quite proactive.
 
"Least likely" doesn't mean "not scum". Frankly, until we see proof otherwise, every player should consider every other player to be scum.


I... have no idea who that is. Google says the inFamous games, which I have never played.


Oddly I have gone into gaming a lot more lately, but as I have relapsed to WoW since Legion came out, my already glacial pace for purchasing and playing games has slowed even more.

I'm just giving you shit. I don't care.

I actually thought your avatar was a girl...

On Outgaf, I use Fetch just to switch things up. So you'd be right half of the time.

Both, really.

Both make me a bit nervous.

I think ER has a cool name and no really presence in this game. Found it weird and still do that he has resigned his fate. And I'm a little apprehensive about that after how things ended with Blarg last game. Hubris bomb and all. I would expect a town player to fight a bit more or ... care?

I can see why he is on people's radar but he also seems likely an easy target, like Marze.
 

Sophia

Member
Both make me a bit nervous.

I think ER has a cool name and no really presence in this game. Found it weird and still do that he has resigned his fate. And I'm a little apprehensive about that after how things ended with Blarg last game. Hubris bomb and all. I would expect a town player to fight a bit more or ... care?

I can see why he is on people's radar but he also seems likely an easy target, like Marze.

Yeah, I was feeling the easy lynch too. It makes me a little bit suspcious of the shifting narrative from Mazre to Ezekel, but there doesn't seem to be a direct link between voters? I'd need to look over AbsolutBro right now because he's the wild card I don't know about.

I don't even know where to put my vote, to be honest. I'm not actually feeling any lynch.
 
Ok, cool. Your thoughts on what town should do if the person that is going to feel the axe claims doc or any other thing ?

I know this post was not directed at me and I know I have been advocating for no mass claim, but I feel as though this would be one of the positives to doing it. But it is more useful when it gets down to the wire, and there is less to claim.

Chances are, each role is unique. Two claims on, say, a doctor would indicate that one is scum and one is town. If one can be checked somehow, then we ultimately end up with dead scum and a confirmed town, which is a huge win.

I don't want to do it now, though.

Also, nin. There's something about your posts that feels very dismissive. Like you're just contributing and prodding for the sake of appearing active. Can you elaborate on some other ideas you may have had?


Also, I have played with Kyan in 3 of his four scum games. I was scum with him in Gods and Bar. His play now is very indicative of his scum patterns. I don't like it. He tends to rely on the safety of the scum chat and only posts in the game thread when he has thought it through. In my opinion, that's not town play. I will be keeping an eye on him.

I do not want to vote for him at the moment because I also realize I may be biased, but my gut is telling me something is up.
 

Sophia

Member
Uhh... I'm seeing no train of thought as to how AbsolutBro got to his vote on Ezekel. :\

And his reasons for voting him could easily be directed at AB himself, if I'm not mistaken?
 

Bronx-Man

Banned
Yeah, I was feeling the easy lynch too. It makes me a little bit suspcious of the shifting narrative from Mazre to Ezekel, but there doesn't seem to be a direct link between voters? I'd need to look over AbsolutBro right now because he's the wild card I don't know about.

I don't even know where to put my vote, to be honest. I'm not actually feeling any lynch.

This goes back to my idea that no-lynches are almost always the best thing to do in D1's.
 

Ynnek7

Member
One of my first few posts in this game was saying how my busiest days were Tuesdays and Wednesdays and that I'd be posting late when I could, and then one of those nights I can't post due to maintenance. I know I have a lower post count, but I'm gonna fight against the coasting claim.

I've given my opinion on three different ideas (mass claim, peeking, no lynch). The no lynch thought wasn't even me trying to push the idea, I legitimately wanted to know if this was a situation where that would be useful.

Ouro and Cabot make sense, though. I hadn't considered the other side of the coin where in a game where we're all power roles, the danger of hitting one isn't as important.

I still don't know who to vote for today, and will be reading back through again. Hopefully I'll get a better idea before day end.
 

nin1000

Banned
I still don't know who to vote for today, and will be reading back through again. Hopefully I'll get a better idea before day end.

Somehow I think that you will cast a Vote 10 minutes before day end. And maybe without even saying why.
 

nin1000

Banned
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Also, nin. There's something about your posts that feels very dismissive. Like you're just contributing and prodding for the sake of appearing active. Can you elaborate on some other ideas you may have had?

Well. The thing is that I was there at the beginning of the game. Not much discussion was going in those Early hours and then I was busy and just today i had time to catch up. Do of course I was reacting to the past and still am since I did not even get to have the chance to talk to everyone or react. I get the criticism since I wanted some thoughts on the game by nearly everyone.
 
Do you town read him? I read back at his posts and I'm not seeing a townie who cares which way things go.

Are you really asking me to give a coherent read on Splinter? Well...

He is consistent, so far with his town persona. His detachment and general disinterest as scum usually come late game and since I just pointed it out to him in Pokemon as one of his tells, I doubt he'd make it obvious if he is scum now.

He's probably neutral and everyone is screwed.
 
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