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Overwatch |OT10| That'll do pig, that'll do

Was playing mercy and healing the shit out of my team when some guy was like omg thanks for keeping me alive! And I was like no problem man. Then another guy was like that's literally her job, to keep you alive. He was a hanzo. Later on DVa was behind the payload and he was bitching about how she was behind us, and I was like....fuckin kill her, that's your job. Lol.

Hate when people are ungrateful. Like I get stuck with mercy all the time and hardly complain but when you run into people like that it's like...dude.

I was done with that attitude a looong time ago. If we need a healer, I'm going Zen. Not enough healing? Pick another healer and play them alongside me. No more getting pushed into Lucio or Mercy and taking abuse all game. If that makes me an asshole, that is just fine with me.

Me having fun is not paramount, but it IS a factor.
 
Been doing solid as D.Va tonight, but I wanted to know if these are good stats for that character, in general:

I'd have to know what level you're playing at, but yeah, those stats'll do, as I'm sure you know.

ETA: Your career averages are very good as well. I'd say you have a decent handle on her abilities.
 

Ramirez

Member
Think we might get Doomfist on ps4 this Tuesday?

I wondered this, but with the Destiny 2 beta starting Tuesday, I'm cool if he doesn't drop, lol.

Up 2-0 in KOTH and our Mercy switches to RH and just starts walking up to the enemy, and letting them get ult charge. What the fuck...

I swear I have never played another MP game where people intentionally try to lose as often as they do in Overwatch, I truly don't get it. I guess a large part is if someone is throwing, there's really no way to offset it like you can in other shooters.
 
I was done with that attitude a looong time ago. If we need a healer, I'm going Zen. Not enough healing? Pick another healer and play them alongside me. No more getting pushed into Lucio or Mercy and taking abuse all game. If that makes me an asshole, that is just fine with me.

Me having fun is not paramount, but it IS a factor.


I love when this happens.

My old strategy was I'll just go Mercy and grin and bear it, my current season not giving a shit attitude is if you want to bitch and not contribute, I'll just go Torbjorn and have fun while the ship burns down. It helps that I have actually been using Torb seriously this season on Defense, so when people see my Top 5 Heroes has like 5-6 hours of Torbjorn they instantly panic and swap.

My favorite part is the same players who refuse to actively help contribute to winning by going Tank or Healer are instantly the same ones bitching at you for costing them the match. Its become music to my ears, especially when you can totally shut them down in an argument. My SR always ends up back where its supposed to be, so I just really stopped caring about the individual losses this season, theres way too much general trolling and fuckery anyway.
 
I really don't want Doomfist. It's gonna be two weeks of idiots instalocking him in comp without any experience. I might just take a break when he comes out.

I look forward to all of the "Don't worry, he's my main" or "I'll swap if it doesn't work" while they propel themselves into the enemy backlines and get instantly melted repeatedly
 

Blues1990

Member
I look forward to all of the "Don't worry, he's my main" or "I'll swap if it doesn't work" while they propel themselves into the enemy backlines and get instantly melted repeatedly

Don't forget muting other players and will only communicate to other players post-game, saying "You guys are trash. This is why we lose, due to horrible players such as you populating this rank."
 

Veelk

Banned
Eh. People have to get good with a character somehow, so people playing him when they're not good with him won't be too big of an issue for me. The enemy team is going to have a lot of Doomfist noobs themselves, so it should even out. And hey, it's a chance to get a lot of Sombra practice.

Also maybe Orisa. I don't know if this was done intentionally, but a lot of Orisa's abilities seem like they're made to counter Doomfist. But I haven't seen much of it since Orisa is not a popular tank atm. Fortify to laugh off his charge, Halt to mess up his mobility, her mobile shields can prevent his shotgun, her long range machine gun gives her an advantage in putting in damage....but I don't know if that works in practice. I kind of hope Orisa does work as a Doomfist counter since Efi designed her to be just that after Doomfist wrecked the other OR-15's.
 
Don't forget muting other players and will only communicate to other players post-game, saying "You guys are trash. This is why we lose, due to horrible players such as you populating this rank."

Yes I love those guys. We go a full round desperately needing to swap something up or counter someone, but only 3 or 4 people are in the chat. Immediately after the round ends they join and start raging about the same shit we were all match, and could have fixed if they were in there but instead they blame us for not carrying.

Eh. People have to get good with a character somehow, so people playing him when they're not good with him won't be too big of an issue for me.

I don't really have an issue with people trying to learn a new character, but you should atleast be spending a few hours in Quick or Arcade before jumping right into Comp. Especially at Masters/GM, one player not knowing what they are doing could easily tank the entire match for their team. Especially a Offense character, if they aren't getting eliminations every team fight is gonna already be skewed to the team with 2 competent Offense characters.
 
T

thepotatoman

Unconfirmed Member
Been doing solid as D.Va tonight, but I wanted to know if these are good stats for that character, in general:

Honestly, isn't too much elims and damage that kinda a bad thing for D.Va? It could mean you're not spending much time shielding and being out of position to properly shield, and thus might as well just play a DPS. Also could mean you're abusing your mega survivability to stay around and boost stats after the teamfight is over while they use you as an ult battery. If you're winning, you're winning and ignore this warning, but DVa especially can mislead you on stats for games you lose.
 

Veelk

Banned
Honestly, isn't that kinda a bad thing for D.Va? It means you're not spending much time shielding, and thus might as well just play a DPS. Also could mean you're abusing your mega survivability to stay around and boost stats after the teamfight is over while they use you as an ult battery. If you're winning, you're winning, but DVa especially can mislead you on stats.

It's also hard to tell because D.Va can actually be pretty successful as a flanker and harasser. I've had a few games where I'm successful at doing bit damage from the side or back of the enemy. I swear, half the damage is psychological because the enemy doesn't want to ignore me since they can't win the war of attrition that way, but if they turn to attack me, then they are leaving themselves open to the real damage dealers.

D.Va's one of my favorite characters to play because the best tactic can change depending how the enemy plays. Sometimes the best thing you can do is be a frontline fighter along with another tank where you DM the worst of the enemy damage, other times you swoop in out of nowhere like an eagle and wreck their backline with your infinitely firing shotguns.
 
I feel like most of my time on D.va is spent running in peoples facings negating everything they do and pointing and laughing as they die helplessly. Also waiting for when I expect people to pop ults, especially Soldier/Pharah/Reaper/McCree

I have seen how scary a D.va is who can both shut down the enemies offense while getting picks as well, so I try to emulate it.

I have seen both Defensive and Offensive D.va do well, which is why she is such a cool character to me. Nothing is more rage inducing than when I'm on Soldier or McCree and I'm telling my teammates we need to de-mech her before we start popping ults, and nothing feels better than when you are playing as her and manage to swallow a Graviton Surge or body block a multi kill High Noon
 

Blues1990

Member
Do you guys know any useful guides for positioning Torbjorn's turrets on the maps? I've been using this video series, but with the inclusion of the new 3vs3 maps, I want to get a good short-hand on ideal turret positioning.

Honestly, isn't too much elims and damage that kinda a bad thing for D.Va? It could mean you're not spending much time shielding and being out of position to properly shield, and thus might as well just play a DPS. Also could mean you're abusing your mega survivability to stay around and boost stats after the teamfight is over while they use you as an ult battery. If you're winning, you're winning and ignore this warning, but DVa especially can mislead you on stats for games you lose.

Quite honestly, most of those kills were either to flankers that try to harass my healers or finishing off stragglers. I'm mostly on shielding duty and try to absorb as much bullet fire as I can, along with protecting my team from enemy Soldier's and the like.
 

Mutombo

Member
I've been trying something else. Not new, but something else. I gained quite a lot of SR this weekend. I'm on PS4.

First; I've played a bunch of solo matches this weekend. Normally I play with another gold, and sometimes a silver, but they still have the mindset of: "i don't want to heal, I've healed last match" or "we already have a healer", etc. Mind you: when I play below my rank because of the silver we pretty much ALWAYS have to tank/heal. I stopped caring but my friends didn't.

Second; I've tried rolling with it/filling gaps. I'm a pretty good winston/lucio/symmetra and okay zenyatta/reinhardt, so there's always a gap I can fill. My aim is shit with DPS. Have a sniper on offense? Fuck it; let's see if we can make it work with a Reinhardt. Etc.

Third: every time I get saved by anyone, or when I see an ultimate kill a bunch of folks, I say: Thank you. Because I know whenever I do something and someone says thank you (when it's probably not even for me) it's a teeny tiny boost of confidence and I feel appreciated. This sounds... well, pretty childish maybe. But if it works for me, hey, it might work for others and promote better teamplay. And after seeing and hearing some of the toxicity on PC, I suppose PS4 players are lucky with the lack of communication.

Then again, I've noticed I climb up quickly after dropping when I played with my friends, so I probably could've been platinum before this if I had solo-qued more often.
 

dhlt25

Member
has this happened to anyone? I'm playing comp and the game instantly kicked me out as soon as the match start. Try to open the game again and I'm suspended, can't even rejoin. No crash report thing either
 
has this happened to anyone? I'm playing comp and the game instantly kicked me out as soon as the match start. Try to open the game again and I'm suspended, can't even rejoin. No crash report thing either

Had it happen twice like two weeks ago. No lag, had been playing fine all day, game just randomly booted me back to the title screen mid match and even though I rejoined before the matches ended I got stuck with the 50 SR loss and Penalty.
 

Veelk

Banned
Do you guys know any useful guides for positioning Torbjorn's turrets on the maps? I've been using this video series, but with the inclusion of the new 3vs3 maps, I want to get a good short-hand on ideal turret positioning.

His anubis video: Torb's turrets use healthpacks. If you place one over a healthpack, it will repair itself

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_Legacy_

Member
I didn't even know about the Torb turrent auto heal on a healthpack, although I can't think of many places where it would be useful.
 

Anne

Member
Strongly considering uninstalling for the time being. Only reason I haven't is that I have friends that like to QP sometimes. Kinda sucks cause I obv would rather the game be as fun as it could be :<
 

Azoor

Member
Strongly considering uninstalling for the time being. Only reason I haven't is that I have friends that like to QP sometimes. Kinda sucks cause I obv would rather the game be as fun as it could be :<

This season sucks, nothing prevents dive comp teams from wining and Mercy main gain an unfair advantage, and I'm saying this as a Mercy main.
 

Anne

Member
This season sucks, nothing prevents dive comp teams from wining and Mercy main gain an unfair advantage, and I'm saying this as a Mercy main.

You can stop dive comp. It's far from impossible. The game isn't even that unbalanced in that regard. It's just not fun how you have to go about it.

Mercy also is far from broken or unfair. She's still pretty ass. She is also just not very fun to deal with either.

As a DPS player I feel like a glorified support unless I pick Tracer. Shit's really bad when I gotta feel that way.
 

LiK

Member
I wondered this, but with the Destiny 2 beta starting Tuesday, I'm cool if he doesn't drop, lol.

Oh shit, is it this Tuesday? I have it preloaded. I'm not in a rush to play Doomfist when he goes live. Already played him in PTR and he was fun but gonna totally avoid having to deal with people instalocking him in the first week.
 

-MD-

Member
Every round we play I either get the enemy team claiming I'm hacking or someone on my team telling me how bad I am.

This community lmao.
 

PatjuhR

Member
I'm just going to say it again;

Pick whatever hero you are good with/have fun with. Forced team comp isn't winning you games.
 

LiK

Member
I'm just going to say it again;

Pick whatever hero you are good with/have fun with. Forced team comp isn't winning you games.

Hah, I've been saying this from the start. I've noticed some YouTubers have started the same mantra as well considering how shit S5 has been going for them.
 

Azoor

Member
You can stop dive comp. It's far from impossible. The game isn't even that unbalanced in that regard. It's just not fun how you have to go about it.

Mercy also is far from broken or unfair. She's still pretty ass. She is also just not very fun to deal with either.

As a DPS player I feel like a glorified support unless I pick Tracer. Shit's really bad when I gotta feel that way.

I agree, I hope the PTR changes make the game more fun.
 

PatjuhR

Member
Hah, I've been saying this from the start. I've noticed some YouTubers have started the same mantra as well considering how shit S5 has been going for them.

Haha, I guess I keep posting it to remind myself. I still tend to pick what the team wants me to pick and it doesn't help.
 

LiK

Member
Haha, I guess I keep posting it to remind myself. I still tend to pick what the team wants me to pick and it doesn't help.

As an off-meta hero main in the first 3 seasons, I know it all too well. I did well overall even in solo q.

Also, Sty just released another video about Comp. This time, he's suggesting fixes to make Comp better. I like his list.
 

Liamc723

Member
I feel like just giving up on this game now.

-Loss after loss after loss in comp. I'll always seem to do pretty decently on defence, and then the team can't move past the first point on attack. Utterly useless.

-People spamming the likes of Reinhardt, Zarya, and Mercy in the character select screen and then they themselves selecting useless characters like Junkrat. What the absolute fuck are you doing!?

None of this is fun anymore. Terrible losses with terrible players.
 

_Legacy_

Member
As an off-meta hero main in the first 3 seasons, I know it all too well. I did well overall even in solo q.

Also, Sty just released another video about Comp. This time, he's suggesting fixes to make Comp better. I like his list.

I agree with all of his points except no.2, I think people need to learn at least 3 characters, I don't agree with only playing one character for the whole season. I still can't believe comp points are used for gold guns, it really should be currency and comp points used for something else entirely.

His low prio suggestion is good, it's crazy top believe they haven't implemented that in yet.
 

JHall

Member
Strongly considering uninstalling for the time being. Only reason I haven't is that I have friends that like to QP sometimes. Kinda sucks cause I obv would rather the game be as fun as it could be :<

I went back to CSGO three weeks ago, best decision I made. I love this game but as of right now it just isn't fun.
 

Anne

Member
I went back to CSGO three weeks ago, best decision I made. I love this game but as of right now it just isn't fun.

I've been playing LoL and feel like I'm more influential as an ADC than as a DPS in Overwatch rn. I've seriously been playing Tekken 7 since that launched and might drop OW hard body to get back into GG/BB. I love this game too, but if it's going to keep going into states like this I can't keep doing it.
 
I keep checking back in to see if things have gotten better, and everyone still seems miserable.

I guess if I want to play I'll just stick to QP or arcade
 
Dude picks Widow. His first shot is deflected by Genji and he's dead. This happened in the first second of the match...FUCKING LOL. Ofc he stayed on Widow the whole time. Luckily, we had a good D.Va and Winston, so we won.
 
Played against two throwers who kept jumping off the map, playing widowmaker, and hanzo.

The fact that blizzard allows this makes me so mad and since Im on console, I dont expect them to do a damn thing about it
 

finalflame

Banned
That Bronze Junkrat, lol.

I don't get what it is about Junkrat that makes him appealing to trash/beginner players. Literally every time I meet someone new in real life that plays Overwatch, their main is Junkrat, and when I ask them their competitive rank, it's somewhere in bronze/silver/maybe low gold.
 
Just got accused of throwing for playing as DVa on Temple of Anibus attack because "she doesn't match our team comp". We had 3 dps, 2 tanks and Mercy.

Sometimes your teammates are complete fucking idiots, can't do much about that.

D.VA is as close to being the omni-compatible / universal donor for any comp you want to run as you can find in the game. (Along with Lucio, Tracer, Soldier??) The only trouble you really get into is if your team is severely lacking support/DPS and nobody else will switch (even though it ~shouldn't be you).
 

LiK

Member
I don't get what it is about Junkrat that makes him appealing to trash/beginner players. Literally every time I meet someone new in real life that plays Overwatch, their main is Junkrat, and when I ask them their competitive rank, it's somewhere in bronze/silver/maybe low gold.

They think he's easy cuz no aiming. But positioning and enemy priority is so important with him. Most people play him terribly. They aren't aggressive enough with him or they dunno how to use his abilities correctly. I saw a huge jump in Junk usage after non self-damage was patched in and the extra amount of bad Junks skyrocketed.
 
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