It's awwwwwful. You can kill 3-4 of the defenders and still have no chance at getting the 2nd point because they respawn on top of it. If you don't win that map with the initial push after getting point A it's just a shitty mess that heavily favours defence. Same with Anubis but that one isn't quite as bad. I had to play attack on Hanamura, then attack on Anubis straight after, fuck that shit.
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It's awwwwwful. You can kill 3-4 of the defenders and still have no chance at getting the 2nd point because they respawn on top of it. If you don't win that map with the initial push after getting point A it's just a shitty mess that heavily favours defence. Same with Anubis but that one isn't quite as bad. I had to play attack on Hanamura, then attack on Anubis straight after, fuck that shit.
D.va and Reaper are both fine. They loop around from being terrible back to actually being great because of how ridiculous they both are (in two different ways of course).
I briefly thought they were attempting to play it straight with Reaper based on some of the earlier shorts, but after seeing his lines in-game and stuff like the pantomiming throat slit thing the guy is 100% purposefully over the top. Calling him edgy or cringey barely means anything because I think it's all on purpose. They walked a razors edge with him but they made it work quite well IMO.
"Heh, too easy"
I briefly thought they were attempting to play it straight with Reaper based on some of the earlier shorts, but after seeing his lines in-game and stuff like the pantomiming throat slit thing the guy is 100% purposefully over the top. Calling him edgy or cringey barely means anything because I think it's all on purpose. They walked a razors edge with him but they made it work quite well IMO.
"Heh, too easy"
The people who bitch the most are the worst players cuz they can't see how bad they are.
That's just the experience of two-point capture maps. The first point is just a test to see whether the attacking team is outmatched. The second point is the actual challenge, because you have to clear them and occupy the point in the 7-second kill timer.
The problem isn't that they favor defense necessarily, the problem is the feeling of progress. It isn't obvious that in a balanced game the first point should be lost, so people think that if you capture the first point quickly, you should be able to get the second one easily as well. That, plus the fact that there is no way to get progressive advantage on capturing a single point, makes the game feel like a slog.
Don't know if I'll ever be able to top this. Most eliminations I've ever had with any hero so far. 42 total and 17 objective. Never felt as in tune with my character as I did this round - I wasn't thinking about what I was doing, just doing it. Zipping in and out while blasting the opposition away. So much fun, so intense.
Anyone who uses those words is automatically 13 in my mind until I see proof otherwise
Never any love for Tracer in the voting at the end..
Massive Duck. C.M.
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Point B is easy to take when everyone decides to spread out, which happens a lot. No one likes to actually you know, defend
Nice. My max in a single match was 40
If you watch pro videos for most any team game they advise NEVER blame teammates. You worry about yourself and git gud.
Eventually, mmr will pair you with better teammates. But you must improve first!!!
I use a Steam controller and still body fools. No excuses lol
PrivateRyan
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And that basically never happens in group play.
Yeah I got robbed tbh. Only got 2 votes all said and done, and one was my own.
Just had my game crash on me and now there's a warning on the main screen about "repeatedly leaving matches" wtf.
Shake Appeal
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All the two-point maps are like this, though, and Anubis is arguably worse. I just like Hanamura because it's a Genji playground. And it's pretty. I enjoy moving through those spaces.
Dreams-Visions
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In retrospect, I agree it's the least impressive map by far.
It feels like a large portion of the map is just irrelevant and wasted design (the side, 2nd floor areas around point A...actually most 2nd floor areas on the map), functionally useless in the game itself as a consequence. Fighting doesn't naturally flow into or around those areas and never will.
I think it's fair to say the map needs to be recreated and I'd like to think that Blizzard has enough information to create heat maps to see where foot traffic is going to help them better understand this. They can do much better than this map in its current iteration.
When playing with groups, Hanamura and Anubis are no longer major issues with Point B if you all immediately rush it together. It totally fucks up the enemy teams if they're not ready.
I played with two different groups that did that and we beat both maps in literally less than 2 minutes. I was actually with a few Gaffers last night and we beat Anubis in 1 minute 16 seconds. I saved the clip. Fastest time I ever completed a map.
I played with two different groups that did that and we beat both maps in literally less than 2 minutes. I was actually with a few Gaffers last night and we beat Anubis in 1 minute 16 seconds. I saved the clip. Fastest time I ever completed a map.
Ghost is Bad
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honestly 2 point maps are all garbage
Good luck getting more than 2 as anything other than a tank and a healer. Even when the other team tells you that you carried your team.
I had a KoTH match last night as Lucio where I healed over 11k and had gold medals for Objective time and Objective Eliminations and healing and we still lost.
This is not a huge complaint though because we won the first round but then proceeded to lose the next two, albeit in overtime by slim margins. I'm just shocked at how much healing Lucio was able to put out.
I actually had fun in that loss too. No Torbjorn and no Bastion's were present on either side. =)
This is not a huge complaint though because we won the first round but then proceeded to lose the next two, albeit in overtime by slim margins. I'm just shocked at how much healing Lucio was able to put out.
I actually had fun in that loss too. No Torbjorn and no Bastion's were present on either side. =)
Its also really nerve racking when you go on a rampage on defense games and as soon as you just die from one encounter or some ither thing. EVERYTHING falls apart.
buy teh haloz
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Very nearly lost to a team of all Genjis. Would have made me legit mad
THE WHIRLD KOULD ALWHEYS USE MOAR EEROES
Massive Duck. C.M.
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If you say so
I haven't had much success on Hanamura, but the mass rush strategy on Anubis is legit. That is why we learned to give up point A when they wipe out the entire team. Gives us a chance to set up our defense on point B in case they rush.
95% of my 70 hours playing Overwatch has been in group play and what you described never happens.
Is this PC? If I get PotG and show up on the cards I usually always get 5 votes.
Someone had been watching Mary Poppins the night before casting
Red Arremer
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Played Lucio the other day. Healed about 9k health.
Guess who got 7 commendations? The Widowmaker who got PotG with 2 kills and her card was 51% scope accuracy.
DurielBlack
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Level 80-something. I've been enjoying this game a lot. There are a few things that really started to piss me off last night.
I'm a bit of an older gamer. Approaching 40. The days of hyper-reflexes are over. The best I can do is aim center-mass and hope for the best, as well as utilize general gaming experience and strategy to out-think opponents.
The cool thing about this game, is it has lots of character options I can play. Torbjorn, the healers, Reinhart, the support classes all can be played well without having to have the reflexes of a 18 year old CoD player anymore.
The bad thing, is those classes that play to that crowd are really fucking pissing me off.
Playing as Mercy last night, which I seem to be pretty good at according to my buddies. But we got matched up against the same team of really good players like 4 matches in a row. We lost 3/4. I really felt like I wasn't able to pull my weight because they had a fucking good Tracer that would zip in, kill me, then zip out before anyone knew what was going on. My average healing is something around 6k I believe, but I was getting 1500-2000 because of this shit. I switched to Lucio and did better, but then the tracer switched to widowmaker and spent the whole match headshotting me.
If there are 3 things currently that ruin this game for me its;
1. Widowmaker - should only be able to 1-shot people with headshots that are fully charged and the charge time needs to be almost double what it is now, IMO. Reason being; when there is a really fucking good widowmaker on the enemy team and you are a old man like me you may as well leave the match. Also, those squirrels need to get of my lawn.
2. Mei's Ult is fucking BS. Mainly the area of effect seems too large. It fills most of the cap circles and there is very little time to react to it, assuming you can even see where its landing. Once again this could just be "old man ranting git gud m8". It's been less annoying since I started playing Mercy heavily, since sometimes I can manage to target an ally and fly out of the doom circle.
3. Final cap defense on some of the maps feels like the defending team has too much of an advantage. Maybe increase the spawn timers by 3-4 seconds would help alleviate this. However, knowing Blizzard and the way they did battlegrounds in WoW, they will probably never fix any of the existing maps, but instead leave them in the map pool to continue to piss us off for years to come.
4. The matchmaker needs work. Last night we lost 10 games in a row and it kept putting us up against people that were clearly not in the same league as us. 4 of those matches were against the SAME TEAM, we lost 3 out of 4 against them, and that was after the first game when it kicked us out for "re-balancing" twice and gave us the same team each time. Maybe we were the only two teams of 6 available but it seems unlikely. After the fourth match it gave us a super awful team we rolled over in record time. Maybe it was just random luck, as its the first time the MM has been that bad in consecutive matches.
Some of this is probably because I am currently unemployed and spend about 50% of my playtime with @#$@#$ randoms waiting for my buddies to get online. Some of it will probably be dealt with over time as my team gets better and develops team strats to deal with some of the BS defense maps.
*edit* one last thing I noticed, sometimes sounds aren't getting played, like peoples ultimates. Anyone else noticed this or is it just me?
I'm a bit of an older gamer. Approaching 40. The days of hyper-reflexes are over. The best I can do is aim center-mass and hope for the best, as well as utilize general gaming experience and strategy to out-think opponents.
The cool thing about this game, is it has lots of character options I can play. Torbjorn, the healers, Reinhart, the support classes all can be played well without having to have the reflexes of a 18 year old CoD player anymore.
The bad thing, is those classes that play to that crowd are really fucking pissing me off.
Playing as Mercy last night, which I seem to be pretty good at according to my buddies. But we got matched up against the same team of really good players like 4 matches in a row. We lost 3/4. I really felt like I wasn't able to pull my weight because they had a fucking good Tracer that would zip in, kill me, then zip out before anyone knew what was going on. My average healing is something around 6k I believe, but I was getting 1500-2000 because of this shit. I switched to Lucio and did better, but then the tracer switched to widowmaker and spent the whole match headshotting me.
If there are 3 things currently that ruin this game for me its;
1. Widowmaker - should only be able to 1-shot people with headshots that are fully charged and the charge time needs to be almost double what it is now, IMO. Reason being; when there is a really fucking good widowmaker on the enemy team and you are a old man like me you may as well leave the match. Also, those squirrels need to get of my lawn.
2. Mei's Ult is fucking BS. Mainly the area of effect seems too large. It fills most of the cap circles and there is very little time to react to it, assuming you can even see where its landing. Once again this could just be "old man ranting git gud m8". It's been less annoying since I started playing Mercy heavily, since sometimes I can manage to target an ally and fly out of the doom circle.
3. Final cap defense on some of the maps feels like the defending team has too much of an advantage. Maybe increase the spawn timers by 3-4 seconds would help alleviate this. However, knowing Blizzard and the way they did battlegrounds in WoW, they will probably never fix any of the existing maps, but instead leave them in the map pool to continue to piss us off for years to come.
4. The matchmaker needs work. Last night we lost 10 games in a row and it kept putting us up against people that were clearly not in the same league as us. 4 of those matches were against the SAME TEAM, we lost 3 out of 4 against them, and that was after the first game when it kicked us out for "re-balancing" twice and gave us the same team each time. Maybe we were the only two teams of 6 available but it seems unlikely. After the fourth match it gave us a super awful team we rolled over in record time. Maybe it was just random luck, as its the first time the MM has been that bad in consecutive matches.
Some of this is probably because I am currently unemployed and spend about 50% of my playtime with @#$@#$ randoms waiting for my buddies to get online. Some of it will probably be dealt with over time as my team gets better and develops team strats to deal with some of the BS defense maps.
*edit* one last thing I noticed, sometimes sounds aren't getting played, like peoples ultimates. Anyone else noticed this or is it just me?
I think the problem is not really just the maps, people want these epic battles. I'm the type of player who skip past the choke point and go for the objective.
Hmm I find if you get potg just for an ultimate people refuse to vote for you. Genji reflect damage seems to be automatic votes even if you don't have a great game
Unfortunately you would need your own Tracer or a McCree/Winston to hang back with you or constantly hunt down the Tracer. Even when I did that myself the Tracer would not stop despite how bad I would mess up their Mercy harassing, they would give up a bit and come back later when I would be helping with objectives on the frontlines.
There's like a full second and a half after she calls out that she's throwing it before it starts freezing and any escape/movement options let you get out of it. If you're on the edge you don't even need one, you can just get out.
Weakest ult along with Tracer's imo.
A good Mei can use that Ult effectively. Got fucking destroyed by a Mei in a KOTH who kept timing it when we were close together capturing and let her teammates finish us off. So annoying.
Sorry Widowmaker, no matter how many times you kill me you're still fucking useless on KoTH maps. Love how people who play her refuse to change even when their team needs to make a push to capture the objective. Hilarious.
Edit: Well shit, now that person is on my team. Guess who they chose?
Edit: Well shit, now that person is on my team. Guess who they chose?
Depends on the card, the way you use the ult the type of ult and if it was a game changer. If its just a Random Junkrat or Bastion play you will most likely not get it, if its a last 10 second game changing ult you nost likely will.
Tracer becoming the Mercy harasser is why I don't play her anymore, unless there is a sniper in the team so I can fly away.
I love this game, and I KNOW wins don't matter, but there's something simply enraging when you see your team doing dumb shit, like 3 people picking widow when we are escorting. Argh.
I did almost get all the gold medals in a game though. Just didn't get healing. I'm starting to think that 76's ultimate is the best. When used at the right time, there's just nothing ppl can do to stop the killing. Flank then activate, boom, clear objective.
I did almost get all the gold medals in a game though. Just didn't get healing. I'm starting to think that 76's ultimate is the best. When used at the right time, there's just nothing ppl can do to stop the killing. Flank then activate, boom, clear objective.
Just got 3 weak wins. Two of them were in Hanamura and Dorado with Torbjorn where everybody reacted slowly to my turret. The other one in Gibraltar where I play Reinhart basically alone in the payload while everyone else (both my team and enemies') are doing whatever.
Well victory's a victory I guess!
Well victory's a victory I guess!
...then went on a seven game win streak playing with great random teams. It seems like I was a little too quick to judge.
Switching to her gun on ocassion can throw some people off even Tracer who most probably think it will be an effortless kill, a lot of people have been conditioned to not view her as a threat. I think one time an Mercy killed me when I was going to high noon their team, granted I was already a bit damaged.
With support, they will most likely run away.
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