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Overwatch |OT4| You Want A Good Genji, But You Need The Bad Hanzo
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Spinosaurus
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So unless Overbuff is lying to me, I'm not as bad as I thought.
That's actually good to know, I'm hella self conscious when I play this game online lol.
That's actually good to know, I'm hella self conscious when I play this game online lol.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Jackal >>> all.
...yes...
how did you know?
It's just probability.
Bad Hanzo players = ignore everything on team chat, sits in a corner doing jack shit, might get POTG even if the team loses, but no one likes them.
Bad Genji players = talks shit on the chat, plays like crap, aggro to their own team over chat but a pussy in the actual game facing the enemy team.
toastyToast
Member
Truth
That's how I play DVA too. I tried to tank up the middle and that didn't work at all. Taking the flanking routes (and clearing them out) then sneak around behind the other team.
optimus8936
Banned
Trust me, the last thing you want in this game is another coin toss.
xaosslug
Member
it's hard to say, because the flow of a game can be so different w/ any given player. But what I like to do (on any capture point, tbh) is when I'm D.Va (you can also do this with Tracer, Reaper, Winston, etc) is just fly in there and constantly break their deffence. Sure, it's likely a suicide mission but the other team will never get a chance to relax and are always on alert, so when the rest of your team goes in for a big push they're never really ready.
Garrett Hawke
Member
Sounds about right tbh
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Thing is that's how she used to be, except she was the flanker. This time I'm talking about tanking for your flankers. The DM is kind of super good for that.
Paired up with reaper and she can cause havoc.
Hell, even in the frontlines I'll follow a 76 or mccree once we break from our rein and just let them mow people down. She's better at that than rein because her movement isn't hindered by her shield.
neurochasm
Banned
Some of the stats on Overbuff are pretty revealing. I love playing Tracer but my damage with her is pretty damn low. On the other hand I have a great objective time and super low deaths. Just wish I was better at, you know, actually killing stuff. I suppose I should be flanking more but I play solo a lot and can't help but be near the point/payload. My Roadhog is super low damage, great death rate, and a decent winrate. Wonder if I need to be more aggressive? Or maybe I just have shit aim.
I think right now one of the biggest differences between Dva and Reinhardt is that a nanoboosted Reinhardt is a monster while a nanoboosted Dva is a "WHY DID YOU CHOOSE ME" move.
I really hope Ana players start to figure out the quirks of using her ult. When I get nanoboosted incorrectly for no reason, it actually hurts morale because a) it makes me feel useless, b) it makes me wonder what my teammate was thinking. I was defending on Hanamura yesterday as a Soldier and our Ana would randomly nanoboost me sometimes when there were no enemies attacking at all and it just felt like a total waste.
I really hope Ana players start to figure out the quirks of using her ult. When I get nanoboosted incorrectly for no reason, it actually hurts morale because a) it makes me feel useless, b) it makes me wonder what my teammate was thinking. I was defending on Hanamura yesterday as a Soldier and our Ana would randomly nanoboost me sometimes when there were no enemies attacking at all and it just felt like a total waste.
Huh, now that you mention it, Jackal & Anubis look great. I kinda just wanted to buy a legendary for the sake of it since I'm at 975 credits or whatever the currency is called and I am yet to own a legendary I actually like (the only one I have is Chopper for Torb... eugh). One of those two would make a good alternative. Now I need a 4 sided coin to flip!
I got nanoboosted once last night, and it was about half a second before I ulti'd as Dva. It was totally wasted and I felt kinda bad since I was on half HP at the time and could've fought, but I did get a triple kill with the ulti so oh well! Her ultimate is amazing now. Any nearby hero without an escape like Hanzo, Ana or Zenyatta is pretty much a free kill.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
No, I still don't think she can frontline tank like reinhardt unless your team works by following Dva single file. Rein is still better at that just because his shield is a great big rectangle.
But yeah, I find it funny when I nano boost someone because they're all like "oh shit oh shit I gotta do something".
I feel you. Took me 40 loot boxes (leveling from 1 to 40) to earn enough credits to be able to outright purchase a legendary skin. I dunno I'll probably just sit on my funds for awhile longer. I do think the raindancer skin is less common then the Mechaqueen. Granted, I've probably only seen like 2 Mecha skins ever so....
Oh I wasn't suggesting she can. Reinhardt and Dva tank very differently. Dva is more versatile, but she can't cover the team as well. Obviously meant for sneak attacks, along with Genjis and Tracers. Dva is the diversion tank to draw fire so others can rekt with the opening. Reinhardt is the cover tank so others can fire while behind him. But they're both very good at their intended jobs now. But Dva should probably never be nanoboosted ever, even if she's charging in!
Dead Prince
Banned
What does everyone think about the direction Blizzard are taking with McCree? The OW subreddit doesn't seem too pleased; he seems to be a mid-range sniper now, like Hanzo in a way. I've tried to play him before & after the patch and I just do not like his kit, I find him really boring which is strange because I LOVE pistols & revolvers and will always choose to use a pistol if I can.
The Yo Tornado
Member
Ahh yes, the Lucio who feels himself with 15 eliminations and 200 damage. The best kind of teammate to have.
neurochasm
Banned
High level players seem to think he does too much damage from midrange now and renders 76 obsolete. As an average player I'll still pick 76 over him every time because his kit affords me more leeway to make mistakes: Good mobility, self healing, and helix help make up for my crappy aim. With McCree I feel like a slow piece of crap that occasionally gets lucky shots. Also, FTH feels really junky.
The Yo Tornado
Member
McCree is confusing because they can't decide what role they want him to play. Even now with his vastly increased damage and range half of his abilities are still essentially useless. Of course before his nerf he was too strong as the duelist. It feels like they don't know whether they want him as the anti-flanker (though really I don't think he's as good at that role as they think he is) or a mid-range sniper. I like McCree as a character but his relatively vanilla playstyle seems like it makes him really hard to balance. He feels like a more efficient Hanzo atm.
What exactly is the counter to a stupidly strong assault point at the end of the Numbani check point?
They had like 2 junk rats (FUCK STACKING), a pharah, a Soldier, one other I can't remember, and a Lucio. And there was basically nothing we seemed able to do because no one could get close, and because of all the kills they were getting, they were just racking up ults after ults after ults. We had a Zarya that managed to get them in a grav bomb not once, but twice. Nothing, because Lucio just ulted and they were basically unkillable for the duration.
The only thing I can think would work is a Hanzo, maybe, but hoenstly, anyone who was poking their head out was going to get wrecked, so even then.
They had like 2 junk rats (FUCK STACKING), a pharah, a Soldier, one other I can't remember, and a Lucio. And there was basically nothing we seemed able to do because no one could get close, and because of all the kills they were getting, they were just racking up ults after ults after ults. We had a Zarya that managed to get them in a grav bomb not once, but twice. Nothing, because Lucio just ulted and they were basically unkillable for the duration.
The only thing I can think would work is a Hanzo, maybe, but hoenstly, anyone who was poking their head out was going to get wrecked, so even then.
Dead Prince
Banned
lol just in QP attack on temple of anubis. i picked hanzo. then i hear team mate on voice saying hanzo and symmetra on attack. the one playing symm changed but i didn't lulz.
we only captured the first point because people left when the game was about to start. but second they held it well. so i ended up just changing to junkrat because they didn't really do much damage. got POTG with Junkrat. would have preferred a hanzo POTG just to shut the dude up in the beginning.
we only captured the first point because people left when the game was about to start. but second they held it well. so i ended up just changing to junkrat because they didn't really do much damage. got POTG with Junkrat. would have preferred a hanzo POTG just to shut the dude up in the beginning.
Dead Prince
Banned
but it's just Quick play. it's not like i would pick hanzo in competitive lol.
but if someone picks lucio. then RIP.
but if someone picks lucio. then RIP.
PalaceBrother
Member
I agree 100%
I can't predict when my kids will wake up and come running downstairs & I hate the fact that I contribute to a tallying penalty when I invariably quit because of it.
Forerunner
Member
I think it's time to hide chat also. These are the types of idiots I've been getting lately. Ending the day at wonderful 1-6. I wonder how low I can go tomorrow!
This sounds no different from annoying ass defensive pushbacks with 2 Bastions (one on the payload!!!), and/or Torb(s), with Pharah and Soldier covering the flanks. If your team is just trying to get to the payload one by one or two by two, there's no way to counter that. What you need is something to scatter them from behind so the rest can move forward and sandwich them. Tracers and Dvas would work in a case of Junkrats creating a bomb trench essentially blocking the team out. Just go in from behind or the sides and get them quick. Then when the Soldier and Pharah react to that, the rest of the team should already be on the payload and countering that. Never underestimate the effectiveness of a Tracer for scattering a well organized defense.
I'd like to see Tracer be able to withstand more splash damage but less bullet damage. She shouldn't be able to absorb so much damage when she gets stuck in a room with Reaper. She also shouldn't go down because a Pharah or Junkrat was just spamming explosives when she zips by.
toastyToast
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Is there still a way to defense matrix while boosting with D.Va?
Hellsing321
Member
I dont know what it is about this week's brawl but it really agrees with me. Maybe it's because I've won every game I've played of it.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Just like normal?
Dead Prince
Banned
just hanzo it up on defense on king's row and they didn't even capture the first point (Y)
Not much luck for me tonight. Comp games were full of double Genjis and no one wanted to heal. Didn't lose a lot of rank.
Quick Play wasn't much better because I kept getting dropped into half full games and matches that were right at the end. Also, I don't know if anyone has experienced this on the PS4 but lately it seems like quick play is play whatever you want to play so no one was healing there either.
But I love this game.
Quick Play wasn't much better because I kept getting dropped into half full games and matches that were right at the end. Also, I don't know if anyone has experienced this on the PS4 but lately it seems like quick play is play whatever you want to play so no one was healing there either.
But I love this game.
divisionbyzorro
Member
To the Lucio who kept booping Mei off of the side of the map, I wish I could buy you a beer.
It was Numbani. We didn't play Hollywood at all.There was a funny moment with an Ana player yesterday on my team. We were pushing the payload on Hollywood. Getting to the second last checkpoint, suddenly heard "IT'S HIGH NOON!" and none of us reacted in time and we all got wasted. Then in the killcam replay, I saw that he got the drop on us from behind on a ledge, but right AFTER he killed all of us, he was put to sleep. So obviously our Ana player watched the Ana gameplay trailer too many times, but didn't react in time to save our ass either.
No I'm 100% sure that was Hollywood. I was playing Zenyatta, and I didn't trigger my ult in time. He was on the roof of one of the houses behind. On all the Numbani games I remember playing Soldier.
i hadn't played him much at all, even pre-nerf, but im really enjoying him since the patch, just classic hitscan glory with a cute little stun and roll to mix in - ive gone 9-2 with him since the patch, about to hit 70 skill rating - i guess i could see the boring argument, but i at least find him more exciting to play than soldier 76
Kayo Police
Member
Exactly when I see someone brag about their elims in a match I just roll my eyes.
Or did you mistaken for Route 66. I seriously don't recall we play Hollywood.
Bear Force One
Banned
Ummm ok.
optimus8936
Banned
Yeah, McCree can be boring at times, but he feels sooo good when you are able to consistently land your shots, even more so if you can consistently land head shots.
optimus8936
Banned
you saw nothing.
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