Not when they have a good Pharah to shutdown the Meis.
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Overwatch |OT4| You Want A Good Genji, But You Need The Bad Hanzo
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The problem here is the dvas are defense and reacting to the near overtime, the attacking team can't back off and swap to double mei without a long run back, and the stall is just to stagger their point cap.
It's kinda similar to why the overtime coinflip is so favored for attackers. They can react to the defense team and have the freedom to change and counter it, win one team fight and win the game.
This Bastion strat is pretty sick though, no lie. It's the kind of thing I've been waiting for in Overwatch, instead of just teams spamming balanced lineups.
Nepal Shrine is, unfortunately, very bad for Bastion. Sanctum and Village are okay.
Nepal Shrine is, unfortunately, very bad for Bastion. Sanctum and Village are okay.
Everything about that was insane.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Man I hope there's an archive of it when I'm done with work. I'd guess bastion would be pretty viable against double winstons.
But yeah, I really hope blizzard change the ruleset because longass overtime and hero stacking is just not fun to watch.
But yeah, I really hope blizzard change the ruleset because longass overtime and hero stacking is just not fun to watch.
You'll be able to watch the VOD on their Twitch channel.
Dead Prince
Banned
lol entered a game in progress on King's row and it was just two people on the team arguing. one was mei the other was torb. mei was griefing and block torb's turrent. and they were just going at it in chat lol. terrible
Orochinagis
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Maybe longer respawn time if the sudden death reachs 1 min for both teams or a three hero limit stack
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Torb really needs to learn to back off on her little robot.
My friends who have high ranks all said that the 50s and 60s are much easier to level ranks in.
TurboLibre
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Man I'm hating competitive. Something is wrong if I'm losing every match but getting golds and silvers across the board.
Yeah, I wasn't against it at first, but it just doesn't seem to bring anything actually good to the game.
That's just relative to your own team though. Doesn't really mean much.
I consider hero stacking to be a cheap tactic now.
Dead Prince
Banned
seagod
Wait until you get a 50 minute match on Volskaya
dude what. That is not ok.
If the goal of competitive is to match you with similarly skilled players, then as an individual or party approaches their appropriate bracket/rank then more stalemates are bound to happen. If that turns out to be the case, then I feel that competitive mode could really compromise the feedback loop that makes playing Overwatch for an hour or more a fun experience.
I guess time will tell.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
2CP in ranked is just a garbage design. I don't mind 2cp in quick play but being able to spend upwards to an hour on just 1 freaking map is terrible.
Shake Appeal
Member
My suspicion is they've made it slightly viable to grind, just so people feel like there's some measure of progress if they put the hours in. Just, like, a tiny tweak to how much you gain on average versus how much you lose.
Even in the mid 60s, people are still kind of trash at this game. At that rank, they're familiar with the basics of what characters do and team comps, but you still may as well sit a toddler down in front of controller and play with them. Just lost a close match only to see I did 31% of the team's damage. How is that possible? R2 is shoot, guys.
Also, seeing Symmetra as a sudden death attacker feels like an instant loss. Having to deal with her stupid little turrets and inevitable teleporter right before time expiration just feels terrible.
Also, seeing Symmetra as a sudden death attacker feels like an instant loss. Having to deal with her stupid little turrets and inevitable teleporter right before time expiration just feels terrible.
TurboLibre
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I don't know. I think it's a good indicator that I'm being matched up poorly. If I'm often the top player but my team is constantly losing, it's hard not to feel forced down my team.
36% win rate. I'd get it if I was playing badly.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Hmm, depending on the character 31% of damage done doesn't seem like some out there anomaly.
Placement matches were exhausting. So much work put in and I ended up winning just 3 times out of 10. Most randoms don't want to switch or full time hanzo/widow and do crap throughout the match. I had one hanzo blame us for losing and he said he did so much work at 40 Elim when I had 61 as Zarya.
All this work when I bothered to take a screenshot while also getting steamrolled in some a couple of those matches and what I get is rank 43. I don't know why I even bothered tbh.
/rant off.
All this work when I bothered to take a screenshot while also getting steamrolled in some a couple of those matches and what I get is rank 43. I don't know why I even bothered tbh.
/rant off.
It's a horrible system and the system they've outlined for season 2 isn't any better. For some reason Blizzard are being incredibly stubborn about changing to a stopwatch mode instead, maybe because they want to try and differentiate themselves from other, similar games, but by doing so they make their game worse than what it should be.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
What did they outline?
God if every pug Hanzo was half as good as these guys, I really would need one every game.
You don't like 5m discussion about pooping?
All map types apart from KotH will use the "time bank" system.
Time bank would be more bearable if rounds cycled faster. A big problem is that the time it takes for a side swap and a new round to start is sometimes as long as the round itself. All that nonsense with animations and pre-game and whatnot really pad the match way more than it needs to be.
Kayo Police
Member
No hero limits is pure cancer in Pro Play.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Hmmmmm.
Well, I can't really imagine how it would work on payload right now, but I do hope they overhaul that system for 2CP.
User 85168
Banned
OT is clearly too long
Shake Appeal
Member
They actually need to lengthen it!
(And then make it so contesting pauses it, not resets it.)
Codeblew
Member
That just happen? Blizzard posted it was fixed now but others are saying it is not.
ElephantShell
Banned
Had the longest fucking competitive KOTH match ever. Sat at 99 to 99 in OT for like 5-10 mins on two capture points. Ended up doing more than 30,000 healing as Lucio just because of the length of the match.
Sucks to play for that long and still lose.
Finally did win a competitive match outside of my placements though which was a huge relief.
Sucks to play for that long and still lose.
Finally did win a competitive match outside of my placements though which was a huge relief.
Yeah, just finished that game 10 minutes ago. It's infuriating. I lose half a rank when I lose and that's all I get when I win.
Best of 5, but no stop watch and no hero limit. So if both teams cap after 5 years of tracers it is just a tie and they go another match.
The teams are taking forever inbetween matches to choose/get ready too.
Codeblew
Member
Trust me, I feel you. I went from 44 down to 40 on the 4th of July because I always had leavers on my wins and losses. How are you supposed to rank up with that? I am waiting until it is confirmed fixed on PS4 before playing ranked again. I know I am not good at the game but I am not that bad.
Whichever team cheeses the hardest seems to be the winner.
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