Is Winghaven as bad as he looks?
Nah, he played on Reunited and was one of the premier Reins in EU for awhile. Just bad coordination between him and the team atm.
Is Winghaven as bad as he looks?
Just tuned in an both teams running Rein, Zarya, Pharah, Tracer, Lucio and Ana.
Tank meta over?
I think the point of a tournament is to win.I don't like tournaments because no one picks Mercy.
They should pick their conscience.I think the point of a tournament is to win.
a good tracer wouldn't be dumb enough to engage a symmetra where her nest isbut anyway, how does any of this work vs. Pharah, or Symm for that matter, who would be melting Tracer while Tracer is trying to take out the mini turrets, or her mini turrets would be lasering Tracer while Tracer's trying to take Symm out...
Just tuned in an both teams running Rein, Zarya, Pharah, Tracer, Lucio and Ana.
Tank meta over?
RIP Complexity
EDIT: lol, they're going triple support to try to defend against the full hold.
Guess it was a weird mistake, because after the Pause, they came back with just Ana/Symmetra.I think they're just using Lucio speed boost to get Sym up to the front quickly.
RIP Complexity
EDIT: lol, they're going triple support to try to defend against the full hold.
a good tracer wouldn't be dumb enough to engage a symmetra where her nest is
I only like her on Attack, since you can aggressively use the rez to maintain pressure.I don't like tournaments because no one picks Mercy.
and Symm can literally set her "nest" up wherever she wants, now that all 6 turrets are @ the ready. So, that's Tracer countered, I guess? ;P
A good Tracer won't engage into tight places and her turrets don't work as well out in the open.
Not really, it still takes her time to set up, and the tracer can choose when and where to engage symmetra because of her superior mobility. If the symm is setting up, she (symmetry) doesn't really have that optionand Symm can literally set her "nest" up wherever she wants, now that all 6 turrets are @ the ready. So, that's Tracer countered, I guess? ;P
Not really, it still takes her time to set up, and the tracer can choose when and where to engage symmetra. If the symm is setting up, she (symmetry) doesn't really have that option
Symmetra doesn't counter Tracer. You can't melt her with your beam because she can blink around it, same thing with your turrets, and Tracer can just spray in their general direction to take them out even out of their effective range.
why do peeps keep saying "good Tracer" like it matters? You would be facing a "good Symm" too, and they're not exactly stupid?
and LBR an AVERAGE Tracer would be eaten alive by even a bad Symm.
Symmetra doesn't counter Tracer. You can't melt her with your beam because she can blink around it, same thing with your turrets, and Tracer can just spray in their general direction to take them out even out of their effective range.
It's more complex than that. Hypothetically, If you had someone who's played 5 hours on Symmetra vs someone who's played 5 hours on Tracer, the Symmetra would probably win because Tracer has a much higher skill ceiling. But the more each person plays of those 2 characters, the match up starts to swing in the Tracer player's favour. That's why at diamond or above a Tracer main would decimate a Symmetra main as the Tracer main would have a lot of time on Tracer and clearly understands how to use her.
again - you are saying a higher skilled Tracer vs. a lower skilled Symm would win and sure, I agree w/ that. But a highly skilled Symm vs. a highly skilled Tracer? Tracer's dead. And if she's not it's because she was smart enough not to engage the enemy Symm, which makes her soundly countered.
why do peeps keep saying "good Tracer" like it matters? You would be facing a "good Symm" too, and they're not exactly stupid?
and LBR an AVERAGE Tracer would be eaten alive by even a bad Symm.
Symm has a much lower skill ceiling. A great Tracer will headshot kill Symm in 0.5 seconds.
So now you bring in the symmetra's team? Does the tracer not also have a team to back her up?is this before or after Symm's team kills the Tracer? Is Tracer a sniper, now? And would she be shooting THROUGH Symm's shield? Y'all are tew much.
is this before or after Symm's team kills the Tracer? Is Tracer a sniper, now? And would she be shooting THROUGH Symm's shield? Y'all are tew much.
So now you bring in the symmetra's team? Does the tracer not also have a team to back her up?
LOL what. Way to move the goalposts.
The team comment is pointless because that completely depends on the specific context. We're talking 1 on 1 here. Tracer blinks through the shield and headshots Symm in 0.5 seconds.
and while she's "spraying in the general direction" of the turrets Symm will be melting her. Symm handles Tracer just fine.
i'm guessing y'all ain't played much Symm after the rework?
Symmetra is usually sitting on the point or hanging in the backline - where Tracer has to come to engage Symm? What is happening in this dream scenario where Tracer is completely decimating Symm and Symm's team is afk?
i think this poor Symm has bigger problems than the godly Tracer at this point! xD
again - you are saying a higher skilled Tracer vs. a lower skilled Symm would win and sure, I agree w/ that. But a highly skilled Symm vs. a highly skilled Tracer? Tracer's dead. And if she's not it's because she was smart enough not to engage the enemy Symm, which makes her soundly countered.
Good fucking luck headshotting Symmetra through her millions of shield hp before Symmetra just holds down M1 and jumps around like a spaz.
No, I'm saying that a highly skilled Tracer vs a highly skilled Symmetra means that Tracer will win all the time because Tracer has a far higher skill ceiling.
With predictable blinks or during the cooldown Symmetra can melt her in one second tho. As Symmetra i usually have no problem killing Tracers. 1 or 2 turrets + M1 = Bye Tracer.
Likely scenerio: Team fight at the front going on, Tracer blinks behind or flanks around, headshots Symm before she or her team has time to react.
Taking the team out of it, the only chance Symm has is if she's in a small room with her 6 turrets up.
No, I'm saying that a highly skilled Tracer vs a highly skilled Symmetra means that Tracer will win all the time because Tracer has a far higher skill ceiling.
a true fantasy scenario. xD