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[Blues1990]

Does Mei's Lunar costume do anything special? Like her Xmas one had a snowman ice regen.

Aside from the weird collision detection and skeleton issues with the Lunar skin, such as making her butt look like a table, it's pretty normal.

 

[Ghazi]

Wonder if you can do the Origins upgrade via this too

What Origins upgrade?

 

[Wimps]

Script kiddies didn't like the last patch?

I was booted from a match, we had a nice team going, damn...

I'm hoping they don't count that as a loss. Edit: They didn't.

Got kicked out of a match too. Didn't count as a loss.

 

[Jimnymebob]

First the For Honor beta crashes every time I try to start a match, and now this happens.

 

[Acquiescence]

Lol

This is ps4

Yep, I'm getting this too.

Hackers' revenge for D.Va nerf?

 

[Moon Presence]

Lol

Lol all you want, comp is terrible. From the matchmaking, to the enigmatic SR points, to the quitters, and so on. A shit show if I ever seen one.

 

[NeoRaider]

Got back on. What the hell happened?

Sombra testing new hacking methods, i heard...

 

[Vault Dweller 111]

Lol all you want, comp is terrible. From the matchmaking, to the enigmatic SR points, to the quitters, and so on. A shit show if I ever seen one.

Saying the game manufacturers losing streaks is lol worthy.

 

[GoaThief]

Came in here to see if anyone else had a disconnect and ...

Gah this timing is awful

... you don't say! Just uploaded this as soon as it happened, could the timing be much worse?

https://youtu.be/cCN11jBkgS0

Laughing about it now but daaaymn, competitive also.

 

[That Dude John]

Saying the game manufacturers losing streaks is lol worthy.

They could really stand to do something to encourage folks not to leave matches early. It would at least make me feel better about my losses lol.

 

[Data West]

ana's not going to stop being a problem until she can stop denying heals and be the only hero that can do that

 

[LiK]

Ana sleep dart triggers me

 

[Moon Presence]

Saying the game manufacturers losing streaks is lol worthy.

Directly it doesn't, that's not what I meant to say. But it's obvious that the system is completely oblivious on how to manage matchmaking and what will make a fair and competitive game. The only thing that they hold on to is a generic number that means nothing. What happens is "people on the same skill rating" getting obliterated by the other team. This can go both ways btw, I've won 5/6 consecutive games where matches didn't took more than 3 minutes each.

If you solo queue, it's like playing roulette.

 

[Grief.exe]

6-3 today, praise be

 

[Garrett Hawke]

It says $60.

Ah, that's a shame.

What Origins upgrade?

If you're logged in and own the base Overwatch game on B.Net it shows you a special tab to upgrade to the Origins edition. It's £15 normally in the UK, not sure about NA but I would assume $20.

 

[Vault Dweller 111]

We've talked ad nauseum about how solo and duo queue is the best way to level up, and the fallacy in saying that comp is totally random and no one player can change anything.

So I'll just let it go.

 

[LiK]

Let's all agree that 5-6 stack in Comp is just torture.

 

[antitrop]

Let's all agree that 5-6 stack in Comp is just torture.

3/4 stack is really the worst way to play, because matchmaking will still match you up against a 5/6, but without the advantage of being in a 5/6 yourselves.

Solo/duo is about the only way to consistently climb on ladder. 1/2 > 5/6 > 3/4

 

[Antiwhippy]

That is a much better looking meta report.

Keep in mind, that's how it always is at the beginning of the meta because people are experimenting to feel out what works and what doesn't. Hell, the beyblade meta was discovered pretty late into the patch. The only exception I could think of where the meta was established fairly early was the last one.

 

[Data West]

I've been playing much more Zen since he got the handsome squidward skin

 

[RockmanBN]

Found a new PS4 Slim bundle on Craigslist for 150 bucks. Got that for my brother and it's been a blast playing online with someone. Also I love the 20% xp for being in a party.

 

[Albino_Yeti]

I'm sure it's been said ad nauseum, but damn am I tired of seeing a soldier in every single game.

 

[MHWilliams]

Fuck Soldier 76. Every game is now counter the Soldier or die. Just nerf his stupid ass to the ground.

He's a mid-range character. At higher levels, skilled players simply choose McCree.

not hard to kill an S76 though.

Much better than trying to counter a pharah.

Ana, Widowmaker, McCree?

Winter Premiere + XTRA Cup Usage (from winstonslab.com)

                CRNT%   LAST%
Lucio         | 96.97 | 89.21 | 
Ana           | 89.45 | 94.08 |
Zarya         | 79.82 | 85.04 |
Reinhardt     | 77.81 | 89.88 |
Tracer        | 50.62 | 31.95 |
Roadhog       | 45.75 | 57.19 |
Genji         | 33.54 | 12.08 |
Winston       | 23.77 |  9.65 |
Soldier: 76   | 21.84 | 15.27 |
D.Va          | 20.86 | 77.03 |
Pharah        | 19.82 |  9.03 |
McCree        | 14.90 |  4.49 |
Zenyatta      | 10.24 | 11.62 |
Reaper        |  4.37 |  3.29 |
Mei           |  3.95 |  4.47 |
Sombra        |  1.87 |  1.03 |
Symmetra      |  1.85 |  2.95 |
Mercy         |  1.05 |  0.00 |
Widowmaker    |  0.56 |  0.67 |
Torbjorn      |  0.44 |  0.97 |
Junkrat       |  0.40 |  0.01 |
Hanzo         |  0.09 |  0.07 |    
Bastion       |  0.02 |  0.04 |

Is Zarya that high as an off-tank with Reinhardt?

 

[Oxn]

He's a mid-range character. At higher levels, skilled players simply choose McCree.



Ana, Widowmaker, McCree?



Is Zarya that high as an off-tank with Reinhardt?

At my level no one can aim.

 

[Data West]

He's a mid-range character. At higher levels, skilled players simply choose McCree.

76 is a constant in grandmaster games and tournaments now.

 

[Ghazi]

If you're logged in and own the base Overwatch game on B.Net it shows you a special tab to upgrade to the Origins edition. It's £15 normally in the UK, not sure about NA but I would assume $20.

NA isn't as lucky (I own base OW):

 

[Anne]

NA isn't as lucky:

That's a bug I think? I did it awhile ago when it was a 10 dollar upgrade, and when I got to check out it showed just the upgrade cost instead.

Is Zarya that high as an off-tank with Reinhardt?

Yeah, Zarya/Rein has been the staple tank duo since launch. The only reason it ever fell was due more to the extreme power spikes that meta teams were taking advantage of.

 

[Antiwhippy]

NGE finals got dominated by a mccree though.

It's so fucking good to see Mccree back. I don't really understand why people thought he was bad against tanks and the finals showed that he isn't bad against tanks.

 

[Grief.exe]

Winter Premiere + XTRA Cup Usage (from winstonslab.com)

                CRNT%   LAST%
Lucio         | 96.97 | 89.21 | 
Ana           | 89.45 | 94.08 |
Zarya         | 79.82 | 85.04 |
Reinhardt     | 77.81 | 89.88 |
Tracer        | 50.62 | 31.95 |
Roadhog       | 45.75 | 57.19 |
Genji         | 33.54 | 12.08 |
Winston       | 23.77 |  9.65 |
Soldier: 76   | 21.84 | 15.27 |
D.Va          | 20.86 | 77.03 |
Pharah        | 19.82 |  9.03 |
McCree        | 14.90 |  4.49 |
Zenyatta      | 10.24 | 11.62 |
Reaper        |  4.37 |  3.29 |
Mei           |  3.95 |  4.47 |
Sombra        |  1.87 |  1.03 |
Symmetra      |  1.85 |  2.95 |
Mercy         |  1.05 |  0.00 |
Widowmaker    |  0.56 |  0.67 |
Torbjorn      |  0.44 |  0.97 |
Junkrat       |  0.40 |  0.01 |
Hanzo         |  0.09 |  0.07 |    
Bastion       |  0.02 |  0.04 |

Time to start using Tracer?

 

[LeonSKennedy90]

Pharah rising, my queen

 

[Anne]

It's so fucking good to see Mccree back. I don't really understand why people thought he was bad against tanks and the finals showed that he isn't bad against tanks.

He was specifically bad against D.Va/Ana as they were last patch cycle. They were nerfed just enough so that you can run McCree without the huge risk attached anymore.

Time to start using Tracer?

Tracer has been one of the top DPS every patch cycle since beta. It's always been time to play Tracer :>

 

[Ghazi]

That's a bug I think? I did it awhile ago when it was a 10 dollar upgrade, and when I got to check out it showed just the upgrade cost instead.

Wow, you're right! That is so frustrating, I would've totally taken advantage of the discount during the sale but it listed full price then too.

 

[Data West]

At this point after all his nerfs, I feel like I can keep people alive more with Zen than Lucio

 

[Antiwhippy]

He was specifically bad against D.Va/Ana as they were last patch cycle. They were nerfed just enough so that you can run McCree without the huge risk attached anymore.



Tracer has been one of the top DPS every patch cycle since beta. It's always been time to play Tracer :>

Ah yeah, that's fair enough, though I was surprised by the amount of DVas still being played. Seems like she can still do work, it's just that it's more of a preference/map specific thing than a mandatory pick.

 

[Karsticles]

Winter Premiere + XTRA Cup Usage (from winstonslab.com)

                CRNT%   LAST%
Lucio         | 96.97 | 89.21 | 
Ana           | 89.45 | 94.08 |
Zarya         | 79.82 | 85.04 |
Reinhardt     | 77.81 | 89.88 |
Tracer        | 50.62 | 31.95 |
Roadhog       | 45.75 | 57.19 |
Genji         | 33.54 | 12.08 |
Winston       | 23.77 |  9.65 |
Soldier: 76   | 21.84 | 15.27 |
D.Va          | 20.86 | 77.03 |
Pharah        | 19.82 |  9.03 |
McCree        | 14.90 |  4.49 |
Zenyatta      | 10.24 | 11.62 |
Reaper        |  4.37 |  3.29 |
Mei           |  3.95 |  4.47 |
Sombra        |  1.87 |  1.03 |
Symmetra      |  1.85 |  2.95 |
Mercy         |  1.05 |  0.00 |
Widowmaker    |  0.56 |  0.67 |
Torbjorn      |  0.44 |  0.97 |
Junkrat       |  0.40 |  0.01 |
Hanzo         |  0.09 |  0.07 |    
Bastion       |  0.02 |  0.04 |

This reads like "Defense" heroes are a failed archetype.

 

[Ghost is Bad]

well yeah. why play those heroes when you could play any of the offense heroes instead at the pro level

 

[Ghazi]

At this point after all his nerfs, I feel like I can keep people alive more with Zen than Lucio

The last time they nerfed Lucio's healing was in November. He's fine, his biggest boon is supposed to be the speed boost.

 

[Oxn]

This reads like "Defense" heroes are a failed archetype.

Im wishing they just remove them all.

Maybe Junkrat can stay. Hanzo too.

 

[LeonSKennedy90]

This reads like "Defense" heroes are a failed archetype.

thats been the modus operandi since forever lol

Either pick the actually good DPS classes or go tank/heal, dont waste a role on fuckin Hanzo or Bastion

 

[Antiwhippy]

thats been the modus operandi since forever lol

Either pick the actually good DPS classes or go tank/heal, dont waste a role on fuckin Hanzo or Bastion

No, that's not true at all. Hanzo is a beast on attack, mei is still pretty on quite a number of maps, symm for intent and purposes is a defense character, and widow has been seeing increased use.

Again, people need to get out of their mind that out-of-meta doesn't mean bad.

 

[cyborg009]

We don't really have game modes where defense heroes shine. KOTH, payload, and hybrid. The recent CTF did make some of them shine.

 

[LiK]

We don't really have game modes where defense heroes shine. KOTH, payload, and hybrid. The recent CTF did make some of them shine.

The only mode where I can use Torb and Symm without a second thought.

 

[Roubjon]

Feels good

Spoiler

even though it's baby ps4 version.

 

[Data West]

stop*trying*to*counter*widowmaker*with*widowmaker*when*you're*a*worse*widowmaker

 

[AbaFadi]

Is Zarya that high as an off-tank with Reinhardt?

Zarya has always been good. Even with her nerfs, Zarya can still carry games if she's always high charged and getting good ults off.

 

[Jellie]

Zarya has always been good. Even with her nerfs, Zarya can still carry games if she's always high charged and getting good ults off.

How can you forget her most important role of saving stupid teammates?

 

[Fancolors]

15 boxes in and the only skin I got was the creepy Ana one.

I'm still looking for the hanbok. The thirst for loot is real.

 

[ohkay]

Time to start using Tracer?

This is my plan. I've only been using her on KOTH but she may become my go-to DPS on attack since she holds my highest non-troll character quick play win rate (Torb has a slightly better win rate)

 

[AbaFadi]

How can you forget her most important role of saving stupid teammates?

Very true, how silly of me to not mention this.

 

[Jellie]

Very true, how silly of me to not mention this.

You probably don't get many due to higher rank?