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[felipeko]

It's a minority thing to believe Wii third parties sell. This is why.

Because, you know, people only buy Nintendo consoles to buy Nintendo games...
(ok that was proved wrong)


Then people who buy Wii are only casuals, that will only buy minigames...
(ok that was proved wrong too)


So people who buy Wii will not buy yearly sports games...
(we will see )

 

[donny2112]

In the impossible case that Bioshock sells over a million can we put images in the official NPD thread?

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=7550082#post7550082

 

[Sharp]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=7550082#post7550082

Oh seriously? Awesome!

 

[titiklabingapat]

Re: Madden Wii

FWIW, I'm basing my prediction of Madden Wii as the worst selling version based on Amazon.com rankings. Wii never really kept up when the other three versions were neck and neck with the PS2 and 360 version always leading the pack.

The Wii version was always a good 10-20 ranks away whereas the three version were always tightly right after each other.

It's not an exact science but Amazon is usually very good at showing trends.

 

[KeithFranklin]

not saying there's no madden bump, but historically, there hasn't really ever been a madden bump. on the other hand, i predicted 300k for 360 in august in the july npd thread, and i'm not budging from it. if i were to revise it, i would say 270k, but we're committed. no turning back now. i'm a rock.

Also need to add the 360 may be higher as well simply because in August was the first time that I have seen Elite's readily available.

 

[Earthstrike]

my question too. i see more people in the monthly pick up threads posting PS3s or Xbox 360s then i do Wiis. how the F is Wii doubling their sales?

Cuz they all already own a wii?

 

[Xzbeat]

Re: Madden Wii

FWIW, I'm basing my prediction of Madden Wii as the worst selling version based on Amazon.com rankings. Wii never really kept up when the other three versions were neck and neck with the PS2 and 360 version always leading the pack.

The Wii version was always a good 10-20 ranks away whereas the three version were always tightly right after each other.

It's not an exact science but Amazon is usually very good at showing trends.

Just like when the PS3 was supposed to outsell the 360. :lol :lol

 

[DaSamba]

Re: Madden Wii

FWIW, I'm basing my prediction of Madden Wii as the worst selling version based on Amazon.com rankings. Wii never really kept up when the other three versions were neck and neck with the PS2 and 360 version always leading the pack.

The Wii version was always a good 10-20 ranks away whereas the three version were always tightly right after each other.

It's not an exact science but Amazon is usually very good at showing trends.

Oh come on. That may be true but Amazon is a terrible source.

 

[titiklabingapat]

Just like when the PS3 was supposed to outsell the 360. :lol :lol

It doubled up in sales.

I never claimed the PS3 would outsell the 360 using Amazon anyway. I'm just predicting the general trend of the Madden SKUs relative to each other.

 

[Lucky]

I can't believe he left Metroid Prime 3 off of his list. What a bastard.

 

[traveler]

I can't believe he left Metroid Prime 3 off of his list. What a bastard.

It only had 4 days...

 

[Tobor]

He overshot PS3 by about 30 thousand. Other than that, looks pretty good.

 

[fabs115]

i was in the nintendo world store today for 20 minutes playing prime 3 and saw 9 people purchase wii's

crazy

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

i was in the nintendo world store today for 20 minutes playing prime 3 and saw 9 people purchase wii's

crazy

I'm surprised they had nine left to sell. When I bought mine there I got there EARLY.

 

[Imperial Hot]

CONGRATULATIONS!

Ken and the Irrational Team need to give themselves a pat on the back, because they made an awesome game that is selling as much as it deserves!

 

[Parl]

i was in the nintendo world store today for 20 minutes playing prime 3 and saw 9 people purchase wii's

crazy

When will they get them by?

 

[P90]

look at it this way.

the PS3 can drop 250 dollars, still sell for 250.

the wii wouldn't be able to drop 250 dollars

For Sony's sake, it might be in their long term best interest to make the PS3 a pack-in for the Wii.

 

[MightyHedgehog]

Seems like Bioshock pretty much met my expectation of it doing 500k+ in its first month for NA. Should exceed what I thought it would do before December by going well over one million. I figure the X360 version Madden probably did more than the combined of PS2 and PS3 for the same period...cementing the idea that X360 is taking the traditional casual market. I mean, you don't get more casual than the American sports games genre (football) even despite it also representing some of the most hardcore players out there. Seems like Pachter is lowballing X360 for the month, IMO. I fully expect 300k+ for August's NPD. What will be most interesting, IMO, is the PS3 number and how sustained the sales boost is from last month's so-called price drop. Of course, it will be difficult to determine since August is usually the time when all platforms start receiving their holiday season boosts.

 

[Parl]

For Sony's sake, it might be in their long term best interest to make the PS3 a pack-in for the Wii.

Or maybe Sony can buy this October's shipment of about 1.2 million Wii's for about $300 million and put them as pack ins. So many possibilities, Sony! Get to it!

 

[HylianTom]

I'm watching the PS3 as well.. how much of a pricedropbump will it have leftover?

And will the Wii really do over 400k again..?

 

[jetjevons]

Or maybe Sony can buy this October's shipment of about 1.2 million Wii's for about $300 million and put them as pack ins. So many possibilities, Sony! Get to it!

Now that's just being mean.

 

[LM4sure]

600k seems way too high for Bioshock. I dunno. guess we'll have to wait and see

 

[AniHawk]

600k for Bioshock seems about right. It may be more in the 500k-600k range, but it's a pretty hot seller.

Sticking with 125k-150k (or lower) for MP3. I can see the NPD thread already:

-Bioshock vs. MP3
-FPS/core games don't sell on the Wii
-More games should come to the 360 because third party games actually sell there
-nuh uh those games should come to the Wii because it sells the most

 

[Parl]

600k for Bioshock seems about right. It may be more in the 500k-600k range, but it's a pretty hot seller.

Sticking with 125k-150k (or lower) for MP3. I can see the NPD thread already:

-Bioshock vs. MP3
-FPS/core games don't sell on the Wii
-More games should come to the 360 because third party games actually sell there
-nuh uh those games should come to the Wii because it sells the most

Metroid Prime 3 Sixty confirmed?

 

[HocusPocus]

Low on 360, but about right on everything else.

 

[Cubsfan23]

Why are people doubting Bioshock sold 600k :lol :lol :lol

seems like some people never learn.

 

[JaY P.]

Why are people doubting Bioshock sold 600k :lol :lol :lol

Maybe because the mainstream does not know about Bioshock.

I work at a major retailer and every time I recommend Bioshock everyone scratches their head and say, "I've never heard of that!" Some mentioned on this thread that Bioshock got a huge push from M$, but I haven't seen much promotional stuff in my store. Maybe those working at game shops have a different perspective.

But based on quality alone, I would be Bioshocked if it didn't hit 600k.


PEACE

Off topic: First post!

 

[evilromero]

I'm very curious to see how software sales fair more than hardware.

 

[legend166]

Madden Wii > Madden PS3
I can hope, can't i?

If Madden 08 Wii was any good like 07, I might agree with you. But, Madden 08 on Wii is an absolutely buggy piece of crap. My brother bought it yesterday. Lucky for EBs 7 day return policy.

 

[legend166]

Maybe because the mainstream does not know about Bioshock.

I work at a major retailer and every time I recommend Bioshock everyone scratches their head and say, "I've never heard of that!" Some mentioned on this thread that Bioshock got a huge push from M$, but I haven't seen much promotional stuff in my store. Maybe those working at game shops have a different perspective.

But based on quality alone, I would be Bioshocked if it didn't hit 600k.


PEACE

Off topic: First post!

That's nice, but I very much suggest you don't continue to post PEACE after every post.

 

[VultureDude]

no numbers for Metroid prime 3? I guess he's playing the wait and see approach for Wii software... can't blame him, this is the first big name "hardcore" release since Zelda (which isn't all that hardcore to begin with), so sales will be enlightening.

 

[VultureDude]

on second thought, will Metroid even make it in the top 10 with Madden no doubt spamming the top 10 chart?

 

[duk]

Bioshock - 530k
Wii - 400k
360 - 270k
PS3 - 140k

 

[Gigglepoo]

on second thought, will Metroid even make it in the top 10 with Madden no doubt spamming the top 10 chart?

That's been brought up a few times. The correct answer? No.

 

[First Children]

· Ubisoft -- $22 million, +90% y-o-y.

What did Ubisoft release in August?

 

[underfooter]

I'll be shocked and disappointed if Boogie actually did that well. 150,000 disappointed wii owners

 

[titiklabingapat]

no numbers for Metroid prime 3? I guess he's playing the wait and see approach for Wii software... can't blame him, this is the first big name "hardcore" release since Zelda (which isn't all that hardcore to begin with), so sales will be enlightening.

That was Super Paper Mario.

 

[bdoughty]

Madden 1.9M


Broken down for your viewing pleasure.

360 - 600K
PS2 - 450K
PS3 - 250K
Wii - 150K

The difference is spread out to the the rest of the consoles, handhelds, PC ...



felipeko

Well you have less then 5 months left here at GAF, use that time wisely, not solely on your pipe dreams.

 

[Rat Salad]

If Madden 08 Wii was any good like 07, I might agree with you. But, Madden 08 on Wii is an absolutely buggy piece of crap. My brother bought it yesterday. Lucky for EBs 7 day return policy.

EB now has a 7 day return policy once again?
I thought they only allowed returns if the software was defective?
If they infact reinstated a return policy and offered full instore credit on the return then holy shit I'm off to buy a few games I've been sitting on the fence over.

What is the deal here?

 

[VultureDude]

That was Super Paper Mario.

IMO, not so much. My friend's non-gamer sister has loved paper mario since the N64 days. I think the fact that it has the word "mario" in the title gives it an edge.

 

[donny2112]

Madden 1.9M


Broken down for your viewing pleasure.

360 - 600K
PS2 - 450K
PS3 - 250K
Wii - 150K

Is that actually how Pachter broke them down?

PS2 Madden 06 did > 1.4 million in 3 weeks in 2005. ~1.8 million in its first 8 weeks.
PS2 Madden 07 did > 800K in 1 week in 2006. ~1.4 million in its first 6 weeks.
PS2 Madden 08 had 3 weeks in 2007.

Hmmm...

Spoiler

 

[ZealousD]

It's a minority thing to believe Wii third parties sell. This is why.

Userbase is not everything. Even though the SNES/Genesis userbases were about the same in size, the Genesis versions of Madden and other sports games completed knocked the shit out of the SNES versions. I think we're going to be seeing a similar situation here in this generation. The Madden crowd is drawn to the 360/PS3, not the Wii. The sales of Madden on the PS3 are probably going to double the Wii sales in August.

 

[bdoughty]

No I was just guessing out my ass using the figure he came up with. :lol

Though I do stand by my order, really could care less how many are sold. Only got into the pissing match with Wii owners because they are so delusional it is hard not to. The only copy that matters to me is the one I play on my 360.

No offense to Sales Age, I like numbers and all, just don't live and die by them.

 

[Rat Salad]

Userbase is not everything. Even though the SNES/Genesis userbases were about the same, the Genesis versions of Madden and other sports games completed knocked the shit out of the SNES versions. I think we're going to be seeing a similar situation here in this generation. The Madden crowd is drawn to the 360/PS3, not the Wii. The sales of Madden on the PS3 are probably going to double the Wii sales in August.

Thats what I'm thinking. The mindeset of the typical PS3/360 gamer is that of a Madden fan. Wii is more like a machine for either the younger/soccer mom crowd. The ones who don't care if the game plays better on other consoles,Madden fans will go the extra mile though,PS3/360 is where I think they will go.

 

[bdoughty]

Userbase is not everything. Even though the SNES/Genesis userbases were about the same, the Genesis versions of Madden and other sports games completed knocked the shit out of the SNES versions. I think we're going to be seeing a similar situation here in this generation. The Madden crowd is drawn to the 360/PS3, not the Wii. The sales of Madden on the PS3 are probably going to double the Wii sales in August.

And thus he creates a 50 page thread of wii owners explaining how "Nintendo has garnered a whole new userbase" and thus will take over the sports game genre. That the wiimote version can be the superior version.

rabble rabble rabble

 

[-COOLIO-]

i predict mp3 will be a sales beast.

exceeded expectations for sure with that game

 

[donny2112]

And thus he creates a 50 page thread of wii owners explaining how "Nintendo has garnered a whole new userbase"

A whole new userbase for a Nintendo console. That being the PS2 casuals who bought a fair amount of Madden copies over the years.

Spoiler

It's only in the process of doing it now, so I expect Madden to increase on Wii as the years go by. It will never match the PS2 Madden sales, though.

and thus will take over the sports game genre.

Not at all. We definitely won't see a concentrated portion of the overall sales on a single platform like we did with the PS2, though.