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ParentGaf OT: Birth, Bib and Beyond

That was basically the method that worked for us. We kept him pantlesless all day. Before that he'd sit on the potty and do nothing and when we put the diaper back on he'd immediately wet it. He just associated diaper with where to pee. When he went on the potty we'd give him a sticker, dance, clap and say Yay! We learned he liked the yays and dancing more than the stickers so eventually dropped the stickers.

Good luck. Stay Strong.

What made him finally relieve himself on the potty? Ours I thought was holding it in, so I tried to tickle him him (he's ticklish). But still nothing.
 

malfcn

Member
Wife is about 12 weeks. She bought a $30 doppler thing that picks up the heart beat. It's very cool, and quite relaxing to hear.
 

zbarron

Member
What made him finally relieve himself on the potty? Ours I thought was holding it in, so I tried to tickle him him (he's ticklish). But still nothing.
I know it's not helpful but he did it pretty much instantly. As I said he didn't get it at all with the other methods but once we had him naked he just got it. Later getting him to stay dressed was it's own issue but we got him potty trained. How old is your child?
M&Ms did the trick for us. Not sure I'm proud of it, but one gets desperate :p.
Been there. No shame.
Wife is about 12 weeks. She bought a $30 doppler thing that picks up the heart beat. It's very cool, and quite relaxing to hear.
That's awesome. If we have a third we'll have to get one. Sometimes we worry and hearing the heartbeat would be very reassuring.
 

tbm24

Member
Hey all,

A few weeks ago during our anatomy scan, then technician scared my wife into an emotional coma for 7 days by suggesting because she couldn't see all parts of the brain due to the baby's position, that a part of her brain may be missing and she might have to terminate it. I was work at the time but I hit the roof. My focus went entirely in calming my wife down until our scheduled fetal MRI 7 days later. During that visit, they also saw some fluid in the child's intestine so they rushed her to a blood test to check for Down syndrome. Weeks later everything turned out to be fine, but we just checked the insurance and this blood test apparently costs 3 grand and was done out of insurance for reasons I can't comprehend given this was at the hospital she's suppose to deliver in. Naturally we're not paying but I have very little experience disputing a medical charge, let alone one under these circumstances. Hoping to get some advice on how to approach this. My wife is currently going nuclear on these doctors and her own doctor who didn't ask or recommend this test, which furthers my question why she was pushed to do this in a clearly distraught state given what she was told minutes before.
 

Crazylegs

Member
My daughter is 8 1/2 and she's been complaining about leg pains nearly every night in the past week. She's fine all day-but then at night her legs are sore and achey. From what I've read I think it's growing pains and nothing to be concerned about but it is really bothering her.

She woke up this morning and didn't want to go to school because she said it still bothered her. I have made a doctor's appointment for later this afternoon but just curious if anyone else has had experience with this.

This is almost certainly growing pains. Both of my kids got these and it's basically a situation where a kid is growing fast - with 'fast' being a completely subjective term. For my kids, the aches kind of came and went over the years, and pretty much disappeared in their early teens. YMMV.

I have to say... reading this thread is making me a little teary and nostalgic. My oldest kid, who is 24, just moved out of the house into her own place this past weekend. Not only that, she's in another city (for her job) a little over an hour away. I'm having a weird/hard time this week with her not around. It almost feels like maybe she's just away for a few days and will be home again. That's not the case, of course, but man do I need to do some adjusting to this phase of parenthood. *sigh*
 

JoeNut

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Hi folks, just checking in, Leo is 8 weeks old on thursday, he's gaining weight super well, and feeding every 3-4 hours on 5oz of formula milk.
Last week he smiled properly for the first time, which was really cool! and last night we put him on this roll thing to help him learn to crawl and he held his head up on his own for at least 1 minute, just looking around - it's crazy how quick he's growing !

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My dog says hi too :)

How are my fellow January birthdays doing?
 

mrkgoo

Member
This kind of thing can be extremely distressing and your wife is right to be upset. When my son was only a few months old we were told we urgently needed to have a colon test done on him because he might have Hirschsprung disease. We first had to administer an enema, which was traumatic and painful for him. He cried like he has never cried before. That kind of thing is terrible. He looks at you with utter confusion: why are you doing this? why are you hurting me? This child that trusts you implicitly. Now, over a year later, he still does not like even getting his diaper changed, and fights every time he needs to be wiped. After the enema he had to have a balloon inserted into his rectum and inflated to test for muscle weakness. He did not cry during this, but he gasped, and I held his hand and told him it would be okay, while he strained and whimpered. It turned out he was fine. That was a relief, but the guilt of forcing him through the pain stayed with me. Days later, at the followup, we met with a doctor we had not seen before. He laughed when we told him about our experience, and said the test was completely unnecessary.

Yeah the pain you inflict on your child is a tough one when you've been advised to do so or know it's a necessity for their wellbeing. Vaccination is another one kind of like it, but you know it's harmless and for the overall good.

I guess doctors can be in tough position, because some like to play it safe. Like what if something is wrong and you have he chance to find out early? Or you didn't do anything about it? The stresses and anxiety of parenthood.
 

theaface

Member
How are my fellow January birthdays doing?

Sully's doing good. His 6 week health check said that he's developing well (and currently in the 95th percentile for height, which definitely won't last!).

Sleep at night is generally pretty good, with him tending to wake only once or twice for the most part. The trickier thing is getting him asleep in the first place - he's quite clingy and tends to kick off if we put him down awake as opposed to waiting for him to fall asleep in our arms.

He'll be 8 weeks on Monday and has his jabs then, which we're dreading!
 
So we are having our first attempt at using a babysitter tonight. Pete is almost 13 months old and we have no family in the area. I've never used a babysitter before, anyone have any experience on etiquette? Should I provide a meal? How much to pay them? Tip?
 
So we are having our first attempt at using a babysitter tonight. Pete is almost 13 months old and we have no family in the area. I've never used a babysitter before, anyone have any experience on etiquette? Should I provide a meal? How much to pay them? Tip?

Late reply but... we provide sufficient food for the sitter if he/she will be serving dinner for our children (e.g. they're all having a meal). If it's going to be a late night we'll make sure he/she knows to help themselves to a snack. What you pay will be entirely dependent on where you live (cost of living) and the qualifications of the sitter (age, certified, CPR trained, etc.). We usually pay around $10/hr in a fairly wealthy part of our state. We don't tip, but we do round up hours generously.
 
Late reply but... we provide sufficient food for the sitter if he/she will be serving dinner for our children (e.g. they're all having a meal). If it's going to be a late night we'll make sure he/she knows to help themselves to a snack. What you pay will be entirely dependent on where you live (cost of living) and the qualifications of the sitter (age, certified, CPR trained, etc.). We usually pay around $10/hr in a fairly wealthy part of our state. We don't tip, but we do round up hours generously.
Thanks, appreciate the feedback!
 

ColdPizza

Banned
Anyone here have children with pyogenic granuloma? Sound scary, but it's just a blood vessel close to the surface of the skin that causes a small cherry red bubble. It bleeds easily and grows back.

Anyway, my son's doctor recommended us to a specialist for laser treatment, but at that appointment the doctor said laser isn't effective enough and opted for surgical excision. The problem is, my son is 18 months old and to do this they want to put him under general anesthesia. Right now, I just don't think it's worth the risk of putting my son under.

I'm a little perturbed at the doctor's "bedside manner" because he didn't even bother to lift the bandage to look at my son's granuloma. He literally talked to us for a total of like 5 minutes after we waited almost an hour.
 
How the hell do you keep 20 month olds occupied during winter?

Find indoor parks or gyms with childcare and take them out as often as you can. Go to an indoor pool... Buy a full body snowsuit and toss 'em outside for awhile. Puzzles, paints, playdoh, crayons... That's what I usually do and I watch them full time 5 days a week. If you have them all day, try to take them out in the first half of the day and wear them out and you'll have much calmer evenings usually.
 
Today my daughter sang a song she made up to encourage me, in the fashion of her many many kids shows. She was trying to encourage me to throw her toy guitar against the wall.
 

Media

Member
Today my daughter sang a song she made up to encourage me, in the fashion of her many many kids shows. She was trying to encourage me to throw her toy guitar against the wall.

My 9 year old daughter does that constantly. I swear some.kids are just born with music in their souls
 
As far as potty training goes, we introduced the potty to both our son and daughter around age 6 months. We sat them on it, and read stories to them while on it for months. Did what we could to encourage fun time while on there, and never did candy tricks (although I know they do work). Our son was potty trained by about 14 months and our daughter 11 months. Never bought a single diaper after. Both my kids had kids in class around 4-5 still in "pull ups" (aka diapers). Seemingly diapers isn't the only area they were far ahead of classmates.

Don't make the potty scary guys, get your children on early and set the bar higher for your kids. Harder for you, easier life for them.
 

Silraru

Member
How the hell do you keep 20 month olds occupied during winter?

My place is open design so my son ran around with his walker, rode his toy jeep around and he still does. My hubby and I drew pictures and read books with him. Also have him take nap after lunch.

Just found out my wife has gestational diabetes. Any idea on some recipes that I can make for her? She's thinking of changing to a Paleo diet.

I was almost misdiagnosed with gestational diabetes. I got some tips from the nurses before my retest after one of the nurses was suspicious of My first set of results. From what I was told, eat small portions and have 3 small meals and 2 to 3 snacks instead of 3 bigger meals. Eat wholesome food like vegetables and fruit. (Not too much fruit though and cut down fruit juice since that's high in sugar). Cut down on sugar and carbs like rice and bread (fist size is what I remember for daily intake) and avoid processed food since many have added sugar. Will she be seeing a dietician? That might help since I would imagine the diet may need to change even more depending on how severe it is. The hospital was going to put me on insulin as well. Thankfully I did get retested and confirmed not to have gestational diabetes before I started taking insulin.

As far as potty training goes, we introduced the potty to both our son and daughter around age 6 months. We sat them on it, and read stories to them while on it for months. Did what we could to encourage fun time while on there, and never did candy tricks (although I know they do work). Our son was potty trained by about 14 months and our daughter 11 months. Never bought a single diaper after. Both my kids had kids in class around 4-5 still in "pull ups" (aka diapers). Seemingly diapers isn't the only area they were far ahead of classmates.

Don't make the potty scary guys, get your children on early and set the bar higher for your kids. Harder for you, easier life for them.

How did you make potty training fun? My toddler son is potty trained now but it was hard making it fun. (It was never fun for him.). I am looking for tips on making it easier when I start potty training my newborn.
 

mrkgoo

Member
We followed a guide for potty training that emphasised that the child learn the FEELING of needing to go, rather than the actual potty itself.
 

JoeNut

Member
Sully's doing good. His 6 week health check said that he's developing well (and currently in the 95th percentile for height, which definitely won't last!).

Sleep at night is generally pretty good, with him tending to wake only once or twice for the most part. The trickier thing is getting him asleep in the first place - he's quite clingy and tends to kick off if we put him down awake as opposed to waiting for him to fall asleep in our arms.

He'll be 8 weeks on Monday and has his jabs then, which we're dreading!

how did the jabs go? our experience wasn't great. His whole demeanor changed, suddenly he's super clingy, crying a lot, won't let us put him down, and didn't sleep.
Took about 3 days for him to get back to normal again.

He's really just on the cusp of laughing now when he smiles, he smiles a lot and makes a little noise, i'm so looking forward to hearing him laugh properly
 

NewFresh

Member
How the hell do you keep 20 month olds occupied during winter?

Have a 21 month old. Some of the activities have been:
-Lots of reading
-Drawing
-Water Beads
-Building lots of block towers
-Hide and go seek
-Just running around like idiots
-Crazy amounts of dancing
-Building forts and houses (out of cushions and boxes)
-I put a swing in our basement as well.

Also, we try to go out daily, even if it's realy cold, just for a few minutes. Walk to the mailbox, look at the birds, ect.
 

theaface

Member
how did the jabs go? our experience wasn't great. His whole demeanor changed, suddenly he's super clingy, crying a lot, won't let us put him down, and didn't sleep.
Took about 3 days for him to get back to normal again.

He's really just on the cusp of laughing now when he smiles, he smiles a lot and makes a little noise, i'm so looking forward to hearing him laugh properly

Really well. He yelped when they were done (as expected) and slept a lot the day after. Other than that, no change in his demeanor.

We've conceded to giving him a dummy at bedtime. We didn't really want to, but his fingers were finding his mouth and we didn't want him to become a thumb-sucker. Also, it is helping him settle down to sleep. It tends to fall out before long anyway. We've agreed that it's only for bed at night and not to be used in the day. To each their own, but we're both really averse to children being dummy-dependent and walking around with it hanging out their mouths.

We're working hard at instilling a bedtime routine and it's slowly but surely getting better. A war of attrition at times, but it's all for a good cause. We're also getting lots of lovely smiles and an increase in babble talk, which melts our hearts.
 
Random kid shit:

My youngest is turning 11 in a week. I always think of her as older than that, probably because she's always had this deep, authoritative voice. She's a pretty cool kid, and definitely smart, but she lets her emotions rule her every waking moment and it's a rough storm to weather at times. It also makes her very loving and forgiving at times too. I worry that the teenage years with her are going to be a nightmare.

My oldest will be 13 in a few months. She, unlike her sister, is pretty shy and is way too mature, or complex, or just weird for her age. I can see in her the kind of person who will finally be happy for real in college or beyond when she can more readily find people like her. The kids her age just don't really tolerate the kind of weird she is. At one point we worried she might have some kind of autism spectrum disorder, but a few talks with doctors and they think it's more social anxiety. She really seems to flourish in more physical, outdoorsy environments. They had an outdoor school thing for a week this year and all of her teachers said she was like a completely different kid. Next Summer, she's going away for more than a week to the Dominican Republic to work on some coral reef restoration project, which I think will be huge for her.

Sometimes people jokingly ask parents of more than one kid "Which one do you love the most?" I haven't found it to be the case that there's any difference in the love. Instead, I kind of feel bad because I can really relate to my oldest in a way I can't with her younger sister.

I think a lot of her trepidation and fear with socializing comes from a fear of rejection, which makes her act *more* weird intentionally. We've talked about it, and she's empathetic and socially aware enough to realize what she's doing, but she just can't work past it yet. She did make a friend this year (6th grade, so middle school now), and seems to be blossoming socially in a way I didn't expect, online.

She's gotten really into making YouTube videos and other social media-lite stuff for kids involving all of her various toys. All the back and forth with these online communities seems to have brought her out of her shell a lot. And being someone who grew up with the internet, needless to say I'm keeping a fairly close eye on things. It's fascinating to watch, because it's so very different from when I was 12 and just making my first steps online in the world of Prodigy and trying to play Doom online.

I know a lot of people here are either younger than me or started later, so you're all dealing with diapers and learning to talk and that shit. It's the same case with most of my friends IRL as well. Everyone has babies and there's nowhere to really talk about older kid stuff. I don't envy you though. The older kid stuff is way less stressful to me. I can't put my finger on why.

The three of us watched Train to Busan yesterday. It was a good pick for a father-daughters movie day. I highly recommend it if you're a fan of zombie movies have been bored with the genre.
 

JJH

Member
Any parents here with only one child? We have a four year old daughter and my wife and I have been going back and forth over the past year about having another child. There are plenty or pros and cons for both cases, but I feel this is probably the hardest decision I have ever made in my life. Even harder than deciding on having our first child. Anyone else in the same situation?
 

zbarron

Member
Any parents here with only one child? We have a four year old daughter and my wife and I have been going back and forth over the past year about having another child. There are plenty or pros and cons for both cases, but I feel this is probably the hardest decision I have ever made in my life. Even harder than deciding on having our first child. Anyone else in the same situation?
We had one child for almost 5 years. Now we have two and are deciding on a third. Let me know if you have any questions about the difference between one and two and I have a similar age gap as you'd have.
 

Silraru

Member
Any parents here with only one child? We have a four year old daughter and my wife and I have been going back and forth over the past year about having another child. There are plenty or pros and cons for both cases, but I feel this is probably the hardest decision I have ever made in my life. Even harder than deciding on having our first child. Anyone else in the same situation?

My son was 3 years old before we considered having a 2nd. We chose to have a 2nd because we wanted our toddler son to at least have one sibling. Both my hubby and I have good relationships with our own siblings and it is a gift we want our kids to have. The downside is two kids is way more work than one when both are young. We look forward to when our oldest can play and entertain the younger one so we don't have to. It is hard to really foresee all the pros and cons but we went with what we feel is best for our kids and it is to have siblings to rely on especially later in life (hopefully)
 
Wife is about 12 weeks. She bought a $30 doppler thing that picks up the heart beat. It's very cool, and quite relaxing to hear.

i feel you. We did that too. In the beginning we were always worried, despite the fact that there was literally no reason to be worried at all (baby way fine everytime we got to the doctor)... hearing the heartbeat of the baby just gives you that reassurance though. its nerves i guess
 

RetroMG

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Any parents here with only one child? We have a four year old daughter and my wife and I have been going back and forth over the past year about having another child. There are plenty or pros and cons for both cases, but I feel this is probably the hardest decision I have ever made in my life. Even harder than deciding on having our first child. Anyone else in the same situation?

We just had our first. WifeMG wants to have more eventually, but not for a little while. It took us a long time to have the first one, so I maintain that if we don't get another, I will just be happy with our little girl.
 
Any parents here with only one child? We have a four year old daughter and my wife and I have been going back and forth over the past year about having another child. There are plenty or pros and cons for both cases, but I feel this is probably the hardest decision I have ever made in my life. Even harder than deciding on having our first child. Anyone else in the same situation?

We have one and would like one more, but I have no idea how we can hope to provide for another child when we've been stretched so thin by the first. And it's getting close to now or never time biologically.
 

Media

Member
My eldest (13) is getting bullied in school for being openly bi and calling himself genderfluid. (Which I never encouraged or discouraged he came to these conclusions on his own) He says it doesn't bother him, but they've been calling him everything from fag to abomination.

Apparently the worst one called this other girl a Nigger, and my son told him to never do it again.

And the kid said 'Or what, faggit?' And my son calmly replied that he'd fucking kill him.

....

So the police came to our house and my son served a week of ISS and has to go to counseling. They won't tell me if the bullies got in trouble.

I hate this fucking school.

He'd never hurt a fly btw, and is even trying very hard to be a vegetarian lol. Any advice parents with older kids?
 
My eldest (13) is getting bullied in school for being openly bi and calling himself genderfluid. (Which I never encouraged or discouraged he came to these conclusions on his own) He says it doesn't bother him, but they've been calling him everything from fag to abomination.

Apparently the worst one called this other girl a Nigger, and my son told him to never do it again.

And the kid said 'Or what, faggit?' And my son calmly replied that he'd fucking kill him.

....

So the police came to our house and my son served a week of ISS and has to go to counseling. They won't tell me if the bullies got in trouble.

I hate this fucking school.

He'd never hurt a fly btw, and is even trying very hard to be a vegetarian lol. Any advice parents with older kids?

That sucks dude. I don't know what to do other than keep in constant contact with the school to make sure bullying isn't going unaddressed. Yeah, your kid shouldn't have said that, and I'm sure he knows, but it never should have come to that either.
 
I was almost misdiagnosed with gestational diabetes. I got some tips from the nurses before my retest after one of the nurses was suspicious of My first set of results. From what I was told, eat small portions and have 3 small meals and 2 to 3 snacks instead of 3 bigger meals. Eat wholesome food like vegetables and fruit. (Not too much fruit though and cut down fruit juice since that's high in sugar). Cut down on sugar and carbs like rice and bread (fist size is what I remember for daily intake) and avoid processed food since many have added sugar. Will she be seeing a dietician? That might help since I would imagine the diet may need to change even more depending on how severe it is. The hospital was going to put me on insulin as well. Thankfully I did get retested and confirmed not to have gestational diabetes before I started taking insulin.

The guess right now is that she'll see a nutritionist at her appointment next week. But she's been going crazy with trying to find out what to eat in the meantime. So far, it's been meat, fruit, and veggies with like a little piece of bread maybe once a week.
 

Wood Man

Member
My eldest (13) is getting bullied in school for being openly bi and calling himself genderfluid. (Which I never encouraged or discouraged he came to these conclusions on his own) He says it doesn't bother him, but they've been calling him everything from fag to abomination.

Apparently the worst one called this other girl a Nigger, and my son told him to never do it again.

And the kid said 'Or what, faggit?' And my son calmly replied that he'd fucking kill him.

....

So the police came to our house and my son served a week of ISS and has to go to counseling. They won't tell me if the bullies got in trouble.

I hate this fucking school.

He'd never hurt a fly btw, and is even trying very hard to be a vegetarian lol. Any advice parents with older kids?

I have no advice but I am sorry to hear that. It must be frustrating as a parent to have your child in such a bully heavy school. I applaud your son for sicking up for others. I'm sure your son said what he did in the heat of the moment. Bullies suck.

My girl is only 6 and we haven't had to deal with bullies yet, but it's a fear of mine. I'm also teaching her not to be a bully. Educating her that everyone is different and that's a good thing. I think it's easier for her since my wife and myself are an interracial couple.
 
Prolonged fevers with no obvious cause are not fun. Especially when the kid refuses to take any medicine orally. Anyone know if you can mix Motrin with vanilla ice cream? Otherwise I gotta go find another drug store and buy out the stock of suppositories again...
 

Red

Member
Logan is 20 months old now. Anyone else have kids this young that enjoy flash cards or maps? He's got like half the US state map memorized. He knows more presidents by portrait than I do. It's sometimes a hassle to get him to play physical games or build blocks, things like that. But he loves to do flash cards, play spelling games on iPad, match shapes, and go through lists and images. I am wondering if and how unusual this is. He does not seem to interact with others like other children his age, and I'm wondering if this is something we should look out for in the future. There were some questions we answered affirmatively on an an early autism signs questionnaire at 18 months. He makes strange hand and finger motions close to his eyes, and he gets so absorbed in certain activities that he will not respond when called. Hearing tests are all good. I don't know if these behaviors indicate anything, and the pediatrician didn't really give much feedback on them.
 
With both of our kids we've had interesting little episodes. Our first had a very spacey staring phase when she was younger, enough that we had a consult with a neurologist and looked into whether there was any family history around petit mal seizures, etc. Ultimately nothing came of it and other than being your usual self-absorbed preteen WHO WONT CLOSE THE GODDAMN DOOR EVEN THOUGH IVE ASKED THIRTY TIMES NOW she seems pretty normal.

Our youngest had intimations of what could be described as "sensory integration" issues--she would lay on her stomach in a sandbox and just make angels and squeeze her fingers through the sand, etc. We spoke to our pediatrician about it and it was something we watched but again nothing came of it.

Both of them are sitting on the couch watching Pod People MST3K with us right now, guffawing loudly, so my work as a parent is pretty much done.
 

emag

Member
Quick story, my 6 month old plays with my Apple Watch on my wrist. He likes to take his chubby finger and flick the screen and make stuff move. Well my cousin was holding him yesterday, she has a normal watch on, he was flicking her watch with his finger and getting frustrated it didn't do anything. What have I done? lol

Kids intuitively get touchscreens.

It's a little different from that scene in Back to the Future II. "You mean you have to use physical buttons?" "That's like an old-folks' toy!"
 
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