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[adamsapple]

You can willfully miss the point, it's not going to change the fact that Indy isn't going to be a nominee at the Game Awards and it probably still wouldn't have won if it was.

What was the point to miss? The other active discussion going on was about how Indy isn't in the top 10 reviewed Xbox games of the year so it doesn't deserve a nomination.

You coming in saying that you've had more fun with 6's than 9's is only supporting my side. Thanks.

 

[Killjoy-NL]

What was the point to miss? The other active discussion going on was about how Indy isn't in the top 10 reviewed Xbox games of the year so it doesn't deserve a nomination.

You coming in saying that you've had more fun with 6's than 9's is only supporting my side. Thanks.

Except you said this:

Many of those juries gave the game in question (BM: W) low 8's or high 7's, which makes its inclusion over so many other nominees even more sus.

It doesn't matter what scores they get, because opinions change, experiences are different, etc.

Hence my analogy of having more fun with some 6's than some 9's.

It's not that complicated, really.

 

[adamsapple]

Except you said this:

It's almost like you completely ignored the part where I specifically pointed out BM W's 'low' scores as a counter to the argument of high scoring being games being worthy nominees and Indy's exclusion because of that.

It doesn't matter what scores they get, because opinions change, experiences are different, etc.

Ok, you would've been better off replying this to some other posts in the topic, not mine, since I'm somewhat in agreement with this point.

 

[RetroGamingUK]

Exactly this

What planet are Variety on?

 

[Killjoy-NL]

It's almost like you completely ignored the part where I specifically pointed out BM W's 'low' scores as a counter to the argument of high scoring being games being worthy nominees and Indy's exclusion because of that.

You do question that certain reviewers nominated BMW while they might 'only' gave it a high 7/low 8.

I think this is the point where people can get too hung up on the actual number.

Ok, you would've been better off replying this to some other posts in the topic, not mine, since I'm somewhat in agreement with this point.

Well, guess it's nice to somewhat agree on something for once.

 

[MAX PAYMENT]

Oh no. Anything pro xbox is going to put this place into a violent siezure. I hope no one gets hurt.

 

[Buggy Loop]

Microsoft got to be a $3T company by doing what they have been unable to do in the video game market, EEE.

And peoples are still not computing why they've made these kind of moves in past years? They're about to pull the same formula as all of their software suite on videogames. They don't give a fuck where you install them, sometimes even for peanuts.

In fact, their next "xbox" is a PC, 100%, you can bet on this. You'll be able to install Steam on it if you want. So why? Because they make more money from your data analystics and ecosystems intertwined than plastic boxes.

There's a much bigger markets to reach when you eliminate costly first world plastic boxes, streaming will only get better. More than ever games in the future will call for AI. It might even disrupt the whole way we render games. What's the point of spending $1500 on path tracing top of the line GPU when AI knows exactly how it lighting should look like in a scene at whatever time of day? Do you really wonder why they invest so much in openAI?

 

[Klayzer]

Microsoft got to be a $3T company by doing what they have been unable to do in the video game market, EEE.

I love when Xfans name drops Microsoft's market cap, as if Xbox had anything to do with that number.

 

[Syphon Filter]

For console only gamers Indiana Jones is exclusively only available on Xbox this holiday.

that is a dumb and delusional way of thinking, reality is that its not only on xbox, including day 1.

 

[Klayzer]

Oh no. Anything pro xbox is going to put this place into a violent siezure. I hope no one gets hurt.

Hey man, sorry you can't tell the difference between propaganda/shilling compared to real opinions.

 

[Negotiator101]

that is a dumb and delusional way of thinking, reality is that its not only on xbox, including day 1.

It's factually correct nothing he said was wrong.

 

[reinking]

They're about to pull the same formula as all of their software suite on videogames.

Sure they are, but this is a pivot from their original goals when it comes to the video game market. Microsoft being a publisher in the PC space is nothing new. It is more like what is old is new again. Personally, I am glad they are going back to their PC roots and appear to be focused on becoming a third-party publisher. However, this is a win for Microsoft, not Xbox. The Xbox brand has been neutered and their latest marketing campaign completely missed the mark.


edit to add- I like Xbox hardware. I do not think MS failed in creating interesting consoles. It has been their messaging and (lack of) accountability that has (most likely) killed it.

 

[MAX PAYMENT]

Hey man, sorry you can't tell the difference between propaganda/shilling compared to real opinions.

I didn't bother reading it. But my point is firmly intact. Thank you

 

[Bernardougf]

LoL reviews from Clowns... Articles by clowns ... and a Clown brand ... the circle is complete

 

[Bloody Crow of Cainhurst]

I would love to know the first person who came up with the term "plastic boxes"

It seems like as soon as Xbox began its downward spiral, consoles became "plastic boxes," while real men of culture stream their games from server farms (via plastic Fire Sticks)

 

[duck_sauce]

Yeah. How exactly? They are both on PS5 lol.

Software sales > Hardware sales

 

[Buggy Loop]

Hey man, sorry you can't tell the difference between propaganda/shilling compared to real opinions.

With the way any news about these games have been filled with trolls all regurgitating the same lines and "concerns", this is peak irony. See :

LoL reviews from Clowns... Articles by clowns ... and a Clown brand ... the circle is complete

 

[Killjoy-NL]

Software sales > Hardware sales

Software sales with the game being on GP?

 

[CLW]

Well EVERYTHING is XBox so it’s hard to beat everything on planet Earth

 

[jm89]

Keep saying it in hopes it becomes true.

 

[Insanemaelstrom]

I would pay good money to see you and Ass of Can Whooping in a cage match.

Are we sure it's not Ass of Can Whooping 's alt?

I bet it sells decently on PS5

Not sure we can take anything from what little data is out there right now as far as how popular it actually is on Xbox since its only in early access atm

I agree. It seems to capture the feeling of exploratio, adventure and mystery that uncharted games had. Most people will look at it being similar to uncharted and give it a go, ignoring the whole first person vs third person thing, imo.

 

[Topher]

Are we sure it's not Ass of Can Whooping 's alt?

 

[Heisenberg007]

I'm not in the habit of fucking video games, but no kink shaming.

But I digress, a 6 wouldn't even be in the discussion for GoTY and if it was, you know some goooooood money had exchanged hands.

Seriously?

What do you think this hole used to be for in CDs and DVDs?

 

[poppabk]

Yep. All the GOTY talk is delusional.

Indiana Jones is currently the 13th best game on Xbox Series X|S this year. And the 41st best game overall.

Now they are all pretending as if it would have been GOTY if not for the cut-off date. llmao.

Black Myth Wukong is sitting at an 81 for PC and 76 for PS5.

 

[adamsapple]

Seriously?

What do you think this hole used to be for in CDs and DVDs?

You're able to fit through that little opening?

 

[Fess]

that is a dumb and delusional way of thinking, reality is that its not only on xbox, including day 1.

The article is talking about Xbox versus PlayStation and Nintendo consoles over the holidays with no next gen consoles out so how else would you look at it?

 

[semiconscious]

Microsoft has pivoted away from fighting the console wars “after a multi-decade history of slugging it out,” says Griffin. As the analyst puts it: Xbox’s strategy of “moving up in the gaming value chain” as with marquee content like the new Indy game, alongside advancing Game Pass and cloud gaming, is better than trying to “out-console Nintendo or Sony.”...

ah, but of course: if you can't out-console them, then out- 'gaming value chain' them!...

 

[playbignbox]

It's so funny how people are shitting on Xbox while this year-end it's my most played console, I'm playing CoD BO6, Stalker 2 and soon Indiana Jones via GamePass. It's really ahead of Sony in terms of content at the moment. But let's be honest and say that the rest of the year PlayStation content was better.

 

[Killjoy-NL]

It's so funny how people are shitting on Xbox while this year-end it's my most played console, I'm playing CoD BO6, Stalker 2 and soon Indiana Jones via GamePass. It's really ahead of Sony in terms of content at the moment. But let's be honest and say that the rest of the year PlayStation content was better.

Funny. Playstation is my most played console.

 

[Atrus]

In Canada, we have a sales tax holiday for two months on physical consoles. Even though it’s not labelled as being specific to any console, the criticism levied has always been using the PS5 and PS5 Pro (ie. why should the public foot the bill on a thousand dollar plus console?) which goes to show which brand has the dominant mindshare in the public eye.

The stupidest people online may be talking about outdated “plastic boxes” but those machines will be selling during the holidays and nowhere near equally among the brands.

 

[Thief1987]

It's so funny how people are shitting on Xbox while this year-end it's my most played console

Well, if it's your most played console then we surely should apologize. Sorry.

 

[playbignbox]

Funny. Playstation is my most played console.

I also had fun playing my PlayStation 5 in the previous months, but the last exclusive game for it this year was SH 2 Remake in early October. At the end of this year, the most relevant games like Metaphor or Dragon Ball are multiplatform, or are games published day one on GamePass and/or temporary Xbox exclusives. It's not hard to understand that at this moment Xbox is offering better content, even if you're playing more on your PlayStation. The people here in the thread are definitely Sony fanboys and have a hard time admitting something so obvious.

 

[playbignbox]

Well, if it's your most played console then we surely should apologize. Sorry.

It's my most played console this year-end because it's offering the best content for the best cost-benefit, it's that simple.

 

[Killjoy-NL]

I also had fun playing my PlayStation 5 in the previous months, but the last exclusive game for it this year was SH 2 Remake in early October. At the end of this year, the most relevant games like Metaphor or Dragon Ball are multiplatform, or are games published day one on GamePass and/or temporary Xbox exclusives. It's not hard to understand that at this moment Xbox is offering better content, even if you're playing more on your PlayStation. The people here in the thread are definitely Sony fanboys and have a hard time admitting something so obvious.

What makes you think Indy is relevant, though?

COD is on Playstation as well.

 

[Crayon]

I would pay good money to see you and Ass of Can Whooping in a cage match.

I'd double it for a porno.

 

[fallingdove]

It's so funny how people are shitting on Xbox while this year-end it's my most played console, I'm playing CoD BO6, Stalker 2 and soon Indiana Jones via GamePass. It's really ahead of Sony in terms of content at the moment. But let's be honest and say that the rest of the year PlayStation content was better.

I don’t know what to make of “ahead of Sony at the moment”.

Stellar Blade, Helldivers 2, Final Fantasy VII R2, Granblue Fantasy Relink, AstroBot, Rise of the Ronin, Black Myth Wukong, and Silent Hill 2 don’t cease to exist because Indiana Jones landed an 85 on metacritic.

It’s nothing against your comment, there is an inherent recency bias in video games. Unless you are Nintendo, it seems that regardless of the quality and quantity a publisher releases, it’s never good enough.

 

[Radical_3d]

 

[BlackTron]

I didn't bother reading it. But my point is firmly intact. Thank you

You didn't even read the headline before commenting?

 

[bundylove]

Yeah and sales on playstation shit all over xbox but xbox is pushing ahead lol

 

[StereoVsn]

Yes, the Momentum is Huuuge and Growing!

As far as Indy goes, it might be a good game (seems so at least from reviews of folks I usually agree with), it’s not the sort of a title that will sell consoles or contribute to selling consoles.

It’s a game where you go: “Oh, cool, I can play new Indy game on my new Xbox/PS console that’s finally more like the three movies from 30 years ago”.

It’s not “I am going to run to BestBuy and grab and XSX so I can play Indy” sort of a game.

As far as CoD goes, seems to have sold incredibly well on PS5 and had increased engagement on Xbox with GamePass. Again, that’s not going to sell consoles.

Hell, are there even Xbox consoles to sell? Seems to be none in Amazon at least.

 

[bundylove]

The game hasn't released yet, only those who have paid for early access, also the game is on game pass.

Xbox winning back mindshare

 

[Klayzer]

You didn't even read the headline before commenting?

Went straight into defense mode.

 

[Thief1987]

Went straight into defense mode.

Who else will defend this poor corporation?

 

[MAX PAYMENT]

You didn't even read the headline before commenting?

Of course not. It's far more fun to drop a joke and see who gets butthurt enough to respond.

 

[Heisenberg007]

You're able to fit through that little opening?

 

[duck_sauce]

Software sales with the game being on GP?

Games Pass has a monthly fee, does it not? People treat game pass pass as free games it is not. Netflix rents movies, but it is still profitable. Game pass is the same. New games on game pass may result in a subscription surge for example.

 

[Killjoy-NL]

Games Pass has a monthly fee, does it not? People treat game pass pass as free games it is not. Netflix rents movies, but it is still profitable. Game pass is the same. New games on game pass may result in a subscription surge for example.

May result, yes. May.

 

[playbignbox]

I don’t know what to make of “ahead of Sony at the moment”.

Stellar Blade, Helldivers 2, Final Fantasy VII R2, Granblue Fantasy Relink, AstroBot, Rise of the Ronin, Black Myth Wukong, and Silent Hill 2 don’t cease to exist because Indiana Jones landed an 85 on metacritic.

It’s nothing against your comment, there is an inherent recency bias in video games. Unless you are Nintendo, it seems that regardless of the quality and quantity a publisher releases, it’s never good enough.

I agree that it was a great year for the PlayStation 5, but all of these games listed were released in the previous months, some even at the beginning of the first half of the year.

Recently I've been playing the games released on GamePass and/or exclusive to Xbox... CoD, Stalker 2 and soon Indiana. There's also MS Flight Simulator, but I'm not really into that franchise. They're all good games and it's the recent releases that are engaging the community.

And I think that's normal, sometimes the PlayStation 5 is more interesting, sometimes the Nintendo Switch, and sometimes the Xbox (as it has been currently). I can't understand why it's so hard for some members of this forum to admit something so simple.

 

[ShaiKhulud1989]

Games Pass has a monthly fee, does it not? People treat game pass pass as free games it is not. Netflix rents movies, but it is still profitable. Game pass is the same. New games on game pass may result in a subscription surge for example.

That’s why MS is stone-cold silent about GP numbers two months after CoD drop. But even during the last update they’ve actually obfuscated stats more by combining XBL converted tier with GP tier. Too bad that even after that move it was clear that service actually lost a few million subs.

 

[Heisenberg007]

Games Pass has a monthly fee, does it not? People treat game pass pass as free games it is not. Netflix rents movies, but it is still profitable. Game pass is the same. New games on game pass may result in a subscription surge for example.

It may, but it doesn't. At least, not sustainable.

And that's why Game Pass has been missing its subscribers goals for 3 years in a row - despite releasing many first- and third-party games on it day one during this period.