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[Bobby Roberts]

Is The Punisher?

Nope.

Hell, Punisher ain't even a hero. He's barely an anti-hero. He's definitely not a supervillain, either.

Punisher's just Punisher. Frank defies most categorization.

(wouldn't matter if he was, anyway, because none of his movies are all that good)

 

[SpaceWolf]

Nope.

Hell, Punisher ain't even a hero. He's barely an anti-hero. He's definitely not a supervillain, either.

Punisher's just Punisher. Frank defies most categorization.

Can't argue with this.

(wouldn't matter if he was, anyway, because none of his movies are all that good)

(Frowns)

 

[Bobby Roberts]

Really, REALLY curious to see what Marvel Studios does with him on Netflix.

He basically stole Matt's show out from under him entirely. It wasn't quite the Punisher I'm used to, but it was a pretty good take.

Probably the best live-action version of him out of the four we've gotten so far.

 

[Glass Rebel]

It's gonna be interesting to see Frank by himself because one of the reasons why he worked so well in DD S2 was because he had self-righteous Matt to play off. Then again, not a huge fan of solo Punisher.

 

[SpaceWolf]

It's gonna be interesting to see Frank by himself because one of the reasons why he worked so well in DD S2 was because he had self-righteous Matt to play off. Then again, not a huge fan of solo Punisher.

I'd be interested to see if some of the speculation out there regarding Castle eventually joining The Defenders at some point is going to pan out.

 

[Glass Rebel]

I'd be interested to see if some of the speculation out there regarding Castle eventually joining The Defenders at some point is going to pan out.

I mean, for most people the main appeal of these shared universes is to see all these characters interact with each other so I definitely want more rather than less of that but I'm not sure how good of a fit Frank would be for the team.

Unless you were talking about The Defenders the show and not The Defenders the team.

 

[TissueBox]

You have my gamma irradiated axe. The Incredible Hulk has always been one of my favourite MCU movies, although I recognize it suffers from many flaws. I love Bruce Banner's character arc in that film, not to mention feel it has one of Marvel's more compelling love interests in the form of Betty. It's got a lot of really fun moments too.

I accept thy axe!! *tries to wipe off gamma with tissue*

I had to re-watch the movie a time or two to make sure I wasn't just confused but every time it has been an entertaining, simple melodrama. Even in the wake of Iron Man the edgy but fun moodiness of TIH makes it my second-favorite comic book movie behind The Dark Knight that year and since then it's grown on me.

From being shown Banner's persistent struggle with his emotive levels to to the action scenes to what for me was as good an ending battle as you could've asked for from a movie like this to, most affectingly, the relationship between Betty and Banner at the center (the scene where they reunite may just be my highlight), it's just a solid package. It doesn't take itself too seriously but knows when to take the drama and where. Many moments did manage to rivet me. Though far from perfect or refined, it is still the quintessence of how a good simple Marvel movie could have the liberty of being pre-modern-day--jungle-thick-MCU for me. Love the thing, 'superficiality' and all.

 

[WaffleTaco]

They put the Avengers above The Dark Knight? Good lord that movie is so average. The only eventful thing about it is seeing The Avengers on the screen together. That's it. The story is a wash. The villian is a dork who is not at all scary or charismatic and is only remembered because they shove him in any movie Thor is in. Hell if they had made Loki a hero instead of Thor maybe the movie would be at least intersting. The action is okay though I will say that.

 

[NipplesAndToes23]

I haven't watched a hundred, but I'll make a list with as many as I can.

At one point I think I knew what my number one was, but I feel weird today and can't remember it so it will be numberless for right now.

Batman Begins
Captain America: The Winter Soldier
The Dark Knight
Iron Man
Kick-Ass
Captain America: Civil War
Batman Returns
Batman Under the Red Hood
Batman Mask of the Phantasm
Batman Beyond Return of the Joker
Watchmen
Guardians of the Galaxy (Hmm, actually I don't really consider them superheroes. I scratch it)
X-Men 1st Class
X-Men Days of Future Past
Man of Steel
The Incredibles
The Dark Knight Returns
Justice Leauge: Flashpoint Paradox
All-Star Superman
Justice League Doom
Justice League Crisis on Two Earths
Ant-Man
Doctor Strange
Thor
Captain America The First Avenger
Iron Man 3
Wonder Woman
Batman Sub-Zero
Superman vs the Elite
The Mask
Blank Man


Damn, that's a lot of Batman.

 

[SpaceWolf]

I mean, for most people the main appeal of these shared universes is to see all these characters interact with each other so I definitely want more rather than less of that but I'm not sure how good of a fit Frank would be for the team.

Unless you were talking about The Defenders the show and not The Defenders the team.

Both, really. I'm not sure how I'd feel about Frank becoming a fully-fledged member of the team...but I could see the character showing up for an episode or two, perhaps when the team would need to consult him about a specialist bit of weaponry or when they'd need information on a particular suspect they might choose to track down.

I accept thy axe!! *tries to wipe off gamma with tissue*

I had to re-watch the movie a time or two to make sure I wasn't just confused but every time it has been an entertaining, simple melodrama. Even in the wake of Iron Man the edgy but fun moodiness of TIH makes it my second-favorite comic book movie behind The Dark Knight that year and since then it's grown on me.

From being shown Banner's persistent struggle with his emotive levels to to the action scenes to what for me was as good an ending battle as you could've asked for from a movie like this to, most affectingly, the relationship between Betty and Banner at the center (the scene where they reunite may just be my highlight), it's just a solid package. It doesn't take itself too seriously but knows when to take the drama and where. Many moments did manage to rivet me. Though far from perfect or refined, it is still the quintessence of how a good simple Marvel movie could have the liberty of being pre-modern-day--jungle-thick-MCU for me. Love the thing, 'superficiality' and all.

Well said! Summarizes my thoughts on it exactly.

 

[discospider]

The fact there are 100+ superhero movies to rank at all is an embarrassment.

 

[IC5]

What about CondorMan

: )

 

[Prototype]

Civil War should be #1

 

[kswiston]

The fact there are 100+ superhero movies to rank at all is an embarrassment.

There's at least 150 found footage films.

Hollywood releases about 130 wide releases and 600-700 theatrical releases a year. It's not hard to reach 100 films after 30-40 years.

 

[Razgriz-Specter]

Unbreakable should easily be top 5.

 

[bitbydeath]

List sucks imo
No kick-ass or 300 on the list, both movies would be in my top 5.

 

[WaterAstro]

Thor 2 isn't #1? what a joke list

kappa

 

[Discotheque]

Spiderman 2
Robocop
The Dark Knight
Scott Pilgrim
X2
Spiderman
Batman Begins
Dredd
Incredibles
Blade

I can clinch those, though I dunno about the ranking exactly except for the top 5.

and outside of that top 10 lies stuff like Hulk, BvS, Iron Man 1/3, Guardians, Mask of Phantasm, Blade 2, DOFP, Deadpool

edit: forgot that ninja turtles counts as well.

 

[Sinatar]

Punisher Warzone at 90, directly behind Elektra and Wolverine Origins?

No.

 

[Discotheque]

Punisher Warzone at 90, directly behind Elektra and Wolverine Origins?

No.

yeah that would be top 20 for me if i bothered going that far in a list. ray stevenson and dominic west were entertaining. and the violence got ridiculous.

 

[HiResDes]

Okay Batman 1989 way too low
Scott Pilgrim too low
Watchmen also a bit low to me
Hellboy too low
No TMNT (1990)
No Blankman
No Kickass
No 300
No Super (2010)


...For shame, so many garbage elevated to to the top 30, probably should cut the list down to a top 25. Days of Future Past and Civil War aren't actually all that great. The first Captain America is garbage. Ant Man is not very funny, nor good.

 

[HiResDes]

I haven't watched a hundred, but I'll make a list with as many as I can.

At one point I think I knew what my number one was, but I feel weird today and can't remember it so it will be numberless for right now.

Batman Begins
Captain America: The Winter Soldier
The Dark Knight
Iron Man
Kick-Ass
Captain America: Civil War
Batman Returns
Batman Under the Red Hood
Batman Mask of the Phantasm
Batman Beyond Return of the Joker
Watchmen
Guardians of the Galaxy (Hmm, actually I don't really consider them superheroes. I scratch it)
X-Men 1st Class
X-Men Days of Future Past
Man of Steel
The Incredibles
The Dark Knight Returns
Justice Leauge: Flashpoint Paradox
All-Star Superman
Justice League Doom
Justice League Crisis on Two Earths
Ant-Man
Doctor Strange
Thor
Captain America The First Avenger
Iron Man 3
Wonder Woman
Batman Sub-Zero
Superman vs the Elite
The Mask
Blank Man


Damn, that's a lot of Batman.

Why?

 

[Staf]

For me Superman 2 is a shoe-in for top 10 (but i'm a biased superman fanboy). Think Guardians of the galaxy should make top 5, but don't know at what expense. Solid list otherwise.

 

[squidyj]

guardians should be higher, most of the avengers movies should be lower.

 

[Blablurn]

people forgot how much fun avengers was in the cinema

y'all laughed!

 

[Glass Rebel]

No particular order (well, I guess alphabetical)

Batman Begins
The Dark Knight
Captain America: The First Avenger
Captain America: The Winter Soldier
Captain America: Civil War
Guardians of the Galaxy*
Incredibles
Iron Man 3
Spider-Man 2
X-Men: First Class

Since GOTG is kind of a borderline case, it's interchangeable with the first Blade. Cap the GOAT trilogy that actually managed to stick the landing.

 

[HiResDes]

People actually like that first Cap movie, that's really news to me

 

[CloudWolf]

I really love the first half of The Incredible Hulk, but as soon as The Abomination enters the film, it goes down fast. The first half is some of the best drama the MCU has to offer though.

Smh at the low place of Punisher Warzone, that film is amazing. It seems that people take it way too serious.

 

[Glass Rebel]

People actually like that first Cap movie, that's really news to me

People have liked the first Cap for a while. It's one of the few movies in recent memory that actually nails the "hero" part. The only others that come to mind being the Raimi Spider-Man movies.

 

[Creaking]

Thor is way too high. Not as bad as the sequel (also too high) but still super unremarkable. And the 22nd best superhero movie of all time? Above the likes of Hellboy? Come on.

 

[vaderise]

Avengers,TDK and Spider-Man 2 are my top 3 super hero movies and Incredibles is in my top 10 so list is very solid for me.

 

[A Link to the Past]

Scott Pilgrim isn't a superhero.
Judge Dredd is also not a superhero

Deadpool isn't either

 

[Palette Swap]

Looking at the first 30 entries, the only things I can find issues with is Thor even being there (and higher than Ant Man or Strange), Watchmen being there, and both Avengers movies being so high.
Otherwise, that's a pretty solidly argued list.

I'd be hard pressed to point to a movie and say "this one is definitely my favorite", but seeing it there, The Incredibles is a pretty good pick.

 

[bomma_man]

Gets pretty thin after number 3

 

[jett]

I had forgotten how much of this CRAP is out there, enough that movies have actually been left out of this top 100 list. Says enough when you got trash like the Thor movies duking it out in the top 30. Truly a shit genre.

I'm too old to squabble over interweb rankings, but I'll say that lumping the three Matrix movies together is an unbelievable copout. It was an entertaining read though.

The Incredibles probably does deserve the top spot.

 

[y2dvd]

People actually like that first Cap movie, that's really news to me

Gaf have been spewing love for the First Avenger all this time, and for good reason!

 

[Tobor]

The salt regarding the Avengers is always amusing.

I've seen almost every film on that list and lots of them in the cinema and none of them match the cinema experience of watching Avengers opening night. The audience were practically bouncing off the walls by the end. It deserves all the praise it gets.

Damn straight! In fact, I'd put Avengers at #1. A great movie and the culmination of years of work.

 

[phanphare]

Damn straight! In fact, I'd put Avengers at #1. A great movie and the culmination of years of work.

yep. avengers is the first comic book movie that accurately represented a lot of the standard conventions of super hero comic books without any sacrifices. that it was successful in what it set out to do makes it my number 1 even if I like a bunch of other comic book movies better. it really cannot be understated how much of a gamble Marvel was taking with that whole shared universe thing and how much they knocked it out of the park. people seem to forget that in hindsight.

 

[hidys]

Given that it isn't really worth discussing the ordering of superhero films when you are listing 100 of them here is my top 10 using my own criteria which includes straight to DVD.

1. The Dark Knight
2. Batman: Under the Red Hood
3. Captain America: Winter Soldier
4. Super
5. Deadpool
6. Guardians of the Galaxy
7. Captain America: Civil War
8. Justice League: The Flashpoint Paradox
9. Iron Man
10. X-Men: First Class

If you asked me on another day this would almost certainly be different.

 

[jett]

I feel like I should read Roger Ebert's review of The Matrix. It must have blown his mind.

http://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/the-matrix-1999

Whether he liked a movie or not, Ebert's reviews are almost always insightful and/or entertaining. Really wish I could know what he thought of Speed Racer, one of my faves, he couldn't review it because he was sick at the time. Probably never watched it.

 

[Blader]

I really love the first half of The Incredible Hulk, but as soon as The Abomination enters the film, it goes down fast. The first half is some of the best drama the MCU has to offer though.

I don't know about that but I do think the Brazil section of that movie is really underrated. It goes downhill for me after Banner returns to the U.S.; a whole movie around fugitive Banner on the run would've been way more interesting.

 

[hidys]

I don't know about that but I do think the Brazil section of that movie is really underrated. It goes downhill for me after Banner returns to the U.S.; a whole movie around fugitive Banner on the run would've been way more interesting.

I've always wanted to see an Edward Norton cut of this film. It seemed like there was some really critical scenes cut from this film.

 

[p2535748]

People actually like that first Cap movie, that's really news to me

There are legitimately great parts of that first Cap movie. His origin is really well done, most of the stuff up until he's transformed is wonderful. It's got a lot of rough parts in the second half, and not a great villain, but I can appreciate it a lot for what it does right.

Of course, I'm not a comic book guy, so I have no idea how it lines up to those, but the emotional beats in the first half really work, IMO.

 

[Oersted]

The Whole Matrix Trilogy being treated as one movie, while other trilogies like Dark Knight being split, is a bit weird.

There are legitimately great parts of that first Cap movie. His origin is really well done, most of the stuff up until he's transformed is wonderful. It's got a lot of rough parts in the second half, and not a great villain, but I can appreciate it a lot for what it does right.

Of course, I'm not a comic book guy, so I have no idea how it lines up to those, but the emotional beats in the first half really work, IMO.

Has some of the worst 3D effects I have seen in a while. Really cheapens the whole experience.

 

[watership]

With a few exceptions, this is a pretty well done list.

It still amazes me that a character most thought would translate badly, Captain America, ended up headling some of the best comic book book movies of all time. If you told anyone that in 2011, they'd laugh in your face.

 

[HiResDes]

People have liked the first Cap for a while. It's one of the few movies in recent memory that actually nails the "hero" part. The only others that come to mind being the Raimi Spider-Man movies.

After like the first 30 minutes of the movie it goes to dogshit, pretty much the pre-transformation first third is the only good part of it to me.

 

[Fancyarcher]

Don't really see the need to do a top 100, since there aren't enough superhero films out there to ensure that there would be for a top 100 list yet.

Regarding their list, I don't mind The Avengers being higher than TDK, it's a matter of opinion. The Incredibles being #1 I'm more than okay with. It's a terrific superhero film. Personally I'd put MOTP and TDKR must higher though, since both films I think are terrific. TDKR would certainly be higher than SR as well.

What? It's been years since I saw it, but as a fan of the comics I thought The Phantom was terrible.

I thought it was a very solid adventure film personally. Plus on a production level standpoint, it looks absolutely terrific.

 

[Fancyarcher]

Has some of the worst 3D effects I have seen in a while. Really cheapens the whole experience.

That's the theatrical release. Those 3D effects are nowhere to be seen on the home release, unless you're referring to the CGI.

 

[Professor Renegade]

Was not expecting The Incredibles to take the number one spot, but looking back I'd say it's well deserved. Personally I would have picked Guardians of the Galaxy though.

 

[Oersted]

That's the theatrical release. Those 3D effects are nowhere to be seen on the home release, unless you're referring to the CGI.

You still see the meant for 3D parts. They look tacky.