Or someone with close ties to the lawyer
Patrick Kane Accusers Attorney: Rape Kit Evidence Tampered with (Up: Faked)
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Or someone with close ties to the lawyer
Very true. Especially if he's backing out for ethical reasons.
CreeperBlocks
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This was an interesting turn of events.
Velcro Fly
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Not by any means discounting the seriousness of the situation
But the twists and turns the past few days remind me of shit you'd see playing Phoenx Wright.
But the twists and turns the past few days remind me of shit you'd see playing Phoenx Wright.
Learn2read
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I've only been following this for a total of 30 seconds, but contaminating evidence that had a "negative" result is meaningless - huh?
Is this speculation?
Huge thing here you seem to forget. Kane is part of a union. Hawks and NHL get sued by PA ala Brady to Nfl is he gets suspended for no reason.
You guys really have no idea why a suspension would be warranted do you? It doesnt matter if someone is going through some "serious life shit" and his coworkers, and apparantly teams who arent involed with this at all. He signed a contract to work, he could take a leave of absence thats mutually agreed upon, but a suspension is negative. Thays why its a suspension.
Pretty much. But I think it's very possible. The lawyer of the accuser doesn't have faith in the story he was told of how the bag came into their possession. So he said he's stepping away from the case for ethical reasons.
So one could assume that either someone close to the Lawyer or the accuser may have done something.
Remember it was just days before all of this that the rape kit showed no link with Kane. (doesn't mean he didn't do anything)
Also... as far as i know, kane was never arrested. Just search warrants executed on his property.
At this very moment the case is a distraction until action is taken against him.
hodayathink
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It could just be someone who is demonstrably anti-Kane for any reason, which would also taint the whole thing. I don't think they necessarily have to have a tie to the victim or her lawyer.
If there wasn't a tie to the victim or the lawyer, the lawyer wouldn't have stepped aside.
I don't know much about law but I don't think a lawyer would step down for ethical reasons if it was just a random person that was anti Kane.
ThreePiMatt
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From the stuff I've been reading the lawyer specifically had an issue with the victim's mother.
The lawyer having a problem with the ethics of how the bag was acquired would indicate it wasn't a complete stranger.
HawksWinStanley
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So you're saying the Minnesota Wild are suspects?
If that were the case, he'd have resigned long ago. This kind of case isn't something you quit over because of a personal squabble.
Plus, he doesn't believe the accuser anymore, which is why he quit.
Reading tweets I guess it was supposedly the accusers mother that may have made up the story on how the bag came into their possession?
https://twitter.com/JulieDiCaro/status/647213843727450113
https://twitter.com/JulieDiCaro/status/647213843727450113
ElectricBlanketFire
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What an insane story.
ThreePiMatt
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Well, the problem stemmed from the evidence bag fiasco. What Boke said above.
hodayathink
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Truthfully, I'm not entirely sure that the ethical reasons are actually tied to whomever gave them the bag. I understand its the most logical answer, but I have a feeling there's something else going on here.
Edit: And there we go. It's not about who gave them the bag, but that he doesn't trust the mother's story about how she found the bag.
Look at the link I posted a few replies up. Seems to shed some light on it.
Well...we could be looking at falsifying evidence charges against the mother then at some point down the line. But at this point, I'm hesitant to say the rabbit hole ends there.
ThreePiMatt
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Could be and should be.
There's no actual way to embed Tweets, you would normally just put it in QUOTE tags.
hodayathink
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CreeperBlocks
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Now to figure out how the Mother actually got the Evidence Bag. This is all very strange.
ThreePiMatt
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Its weird, the DA called for a press conference for tomorrow, wonder if that's still going to happen.
ElectricBlanketFire
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No matter what, this has exposed a seedy, horrible portion of the Blackhawks fanbase that is perfectly fine discounting and attacking the alleged victim.
I don't even feel like watching a game this season. Just feels gross.
I don't even feel like watching a game this season. Just feels gross.
CreeperBlocks
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We will have more information tomorrow.
hodayathink
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Honestly, I get the distinct impression that every professional sports team has a portion of its fanbase like this, and all it takes is one bad incident for them to expose themselves. Doesn't mean any of it is right or okay, though.
ElectricBlanketFire
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Oh I'm sure, it just sucks when it's people you know.
Sad thing is, it's not even just professional teams. It also extends down to college and even to fucking high school.
ThreePiMatt
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I never understood needlessly melodramatic sentiments like this. Liking hockey and liking the Blackhawks doesn't not make you a bad person, no matter how awful some people who also like the Blackhawks happen to be.
hodayathink
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True, unfortunately.
ElectricBlanketFire
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Okay?
massivekettle
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Kane to potentially sue accuser?
From the Chicago Tribune. The key witness is allegedly a friend of the accuser present at Kane's house the night of...
In light of all this, wondering if the DA won't just drop the case tomorrow...
Snowman Prophet of Doom
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If he were under investigation for, say, potential ties to a Ponzi scheme, but had not yet even been charged, let alone convicted, would suspension be appropriate? Or is it the fact that the accusation is of rape, a very emotional crime with a very heated political debate surrounding it at the moment? Because to me, this post comes across as a very guarded way of arguing for the increasingly growing liberal sentiment that rape accusations need to be treated differently than accusations of other crimes, such that the standard of proof for having said accusation negatively impact your life, career, and personal relationships should be tangibly lower, because otherwise, the deck is too stacked against victims and too many rapists get away unscathed. And I can't get on board with that, myself. If he's actually charged, it's one thing, but if the police are merely looking into it, why should the player, the team, and the entire league be so disrupted until the legal system has actually established that there is some kind of solid evidence to move forward? A suspension is absolutely a negative thing, in practice.
As a Chicagoan, btw, I've heard many stories of Kane supposedly being quite a boorish cad, and I'd not be surprised if he were guilty of rape. But I'm not willing to see action taken against him unless we actually have some evidence other than the mere accusation, itself, because to me, anything less is an abrogation of justice. People have become fond of saying "Innocent until proven guilty only applies in a court of law", but there's a difference between, say, OJ's obvious acquittal despite guilt, and the usually far more nebulous cases in which that defense is evoked, in which case what is actually being said is that it's okay to tar and feather the reputation of those against whom there is scanty evidence in the name of greater social justice.
HF2014
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Ethical or he got a gun on his head? Seriously, the attorney look to me very nervous, as he was scared of something. Someone wanted this to spit in the face of the accuser, seriously , this is barbaric. Could Kane have paid someone to do this???
Its the internet. All fan bases have the bad people you speak about, and the shithead fans too.
Theres also the guys on the internet who proclaim shit and use hyperbole to make things seem worse than they are.
If it was a movie on Lifetime, yes. In the real world, no Kane didn't pay to have her lawyer quit. What possible good would that do him? She could get another lawyer.
tkscz
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Considering the way the lawyer backed off, if it was most likely because the person who gave her mom the evidence bag was aquanted with either the lawyer, or the Accuser. If that's the case, said person could work at a hospital or other place where another kit could be made and tampered with.
Nor do I. Makes very little sense to me.
I'm just asking questions!
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