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Payday 2 |OT| See you at the safe house.

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reptilescorpio

Member
I get the impression you shouldn't play offline? Tried 2 heists with ally AI, failed both miserably due to being underpowered and the allies really only shooting bad guys rather than helping.

Really sucks you get nothing from a failed heist. Stole a shitload of jewellery from a convoy but got double teamed by shield SWAT guys. Result is 20 minute heist gives up no xp and no money.
 
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Kane Zakharov

Banned
reptilescorpio said:
I get the impression you shouldn't play offline? Tried 2 heists with ally AI, failed both miserably due to being underpowered and the allies really only shooting bad guys rather than helping.

Really sucks you get nothing from a failed heist. Stole a shitload of jewellery from a convoy but got double teamed by shield SWAT guys. Result is 20 minute heist gives up no xp and no money.
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You can still manage to do heists and missions offline, but yes, the AI is useless for the most part. They don't pick up bags, they stay back and do nothing if you're trying to do stealth. When you're going loud, they mostly act as bullet sponges and shoot enemies and revive you whenever you're down, and I think that's pretty much it.
 
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Slackerchan

Member
Overkill has updated their site with a new page containing a countdown timer set to expire 34 days from now:

http://overkillsoftware.com/whatsnext/

Odds are it's the next heist from The Dentist which would entail the Hoxton prison break. However, Overkill, to my knowledge, has never put up a countdown timer for something this far out. Maybe it's a new project announcement?
 
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colt92

Neo Member
A friend of mine knows someone in Overkill, and he was told that Hoxton Breakout would be done in about 2 weeks. Maybe the info was not entirely correct, maybe they pushed it back for some reason, or maybe it's something else. I'll ask.

Anyone here using HOXHud? Is it any good?
 
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Baconsaurus Rex

Member
colt92 said:
A friend of mine knows someone in Overkill, and he was told that Hoxton Breakout would be done in about 2 weeks. Maybe the info was not entirely correct, maybe they pushed it back for some reason, or maybe it's something else. I'll ask.

Anyone here using HOXHud? Is it any good?
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HoxHud is excellent.

Just be advised that having HoxHud enabled after a new Update will crash the game until a new version of HoxHud comes out. Just remove HoxHud in the meantime.
 
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voodooray

Member
colt92 said:
Anyone here using HOXHud? Is it any good?
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There are many improvements, but here are just a few I find invaluable:

  • On-screen timers for all items that use the generic timer class (e.g. Drills, Voting Machines, Computer Hacking). Also for ECMs and Sentry Gun ammo. Longer timers start on the Tab screen (AKA stats screen) and move to the main screen when they go below 60s.
  • Greatly expanded infoboxes showing everything from number of cops dominated/jokered to Gage Packages and alerted civilians.
  • A smaller white circle displays in your health ring to indicate how long you can sprint for.
  • When hosting a non-pro job, you can restart the day from the Esc (pause) menu.
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For those interested, join the public steam group, then go to is Discussions area, the click on the HoxHud downloads subforum for the link.
 
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bonesmccoy

Banned
I too picked this up during the Steam sale and am having a blast with it.

Right now I have a completely mixed build going on. I probably should specialize now that leveling up has slowed down a lot (I'm at level 43), but I find so many of the 1 skill point traits/abilities too handy to pass up.

In terms of weapons, I've just swapped out the Swedish K for that small tactical shotgun w/a damage mod on it. Very handy so far on the higher difficulties.
 
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voodooray

Member
You may benefit from a respec into something more specialised, as long as you can get together with a team made up of other skills to compensate. Currently I'm making good progress as an enforcer-ghost build (saws for heists and transport, but still stealthy enough to go quiet when needed).

Some interesting links that might be of interest to others:

Exp needed per level (suprised to learn its so steep. Data taken from the wiki)

Track your stats (Payday2 Stats, Payday2 Statistics)
 
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bonesmccoy

Banned
Yea, I've started to gradually respec now and putting the extra points into Enforcer. I'd love to get the saw and the ammo boosts. But then I really want to get that 'lockpick anything' skill - so many missions get bogged down waiting for a drill, or because no one brought a saw.
 
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voodooray

Member
Hell of a free update incoming, assuming steam group members go up (Current group members: 981,548):

http://www.overkillsoftware.com/crimefest/

1,000,000: Judge Gun and Money Bundle Melee: A snub-nosed 6-shot pistol (that is actually a shotgun) and a wad of money (pimp slap yo)
1,050,000: Payday: The Heist Free During Crimefest (October 18th)
1,100,000: Bain Mask (from the boss himself)
1,150,000: Old Hoxton Breakout Heist free for all community members
1,200,000: Free Old Hoxton Playable Character (you wankers)
1,250,000: Framing Frame Day 1 as a Single Day Heist
1,300,000: F.B.I. Stats page
1,350,000: Free Primary Weapon from Gage
1,400,000: New Gensec Enemy (guaranteed brick shitting too)
1,450,000: Time of Day factored into heists
1,500,000: [Secret]z
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More people that join the group, more things unlocked for all its members:

http://steamcommunity.com/games/218620
 
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NZNova

Member
Is anyone else here having problems with hoxhud announcing that it needs an update and disabling itself? It happens to me sometimes in the middle of a session, but I have the latest version. It just started happening to me yesterday.

It's kind of annoying to lose hoxhud in the middle of a game... there seems to be a few people afflicted by it in the steam group but no clear answers from anyone as to how to fix the problem.
 
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voodooray

Member
Since the latest version is now P3.2, how often do you see this happen with that version?

I just realised that I've been on the P1.3 build still. While I sometimes noticed it wasn't running during a heist, on the whole, it was usually activated during my play over the past few weeks.
 
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colt92

Neo Member
Ten minutes gentlemen!

http://www.overkillsoftware.com/whatsnext/

EDIT: So... no PAYDAY2 update. It's a new game! Overkill is going to develop a The Walking Dead videogame in partnership with the comic's creator, Robert Kirkman. They just announced it in the Steam group.

Oh, and we get a free weapon: a baseball bat with barbed wire.
 
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TheSeks

Blinded by the luminous glory that is David Bowie's physical manifestation.
colt92 said:
Ten minutes gentlemen!

http://www.overkillsoftware.com/whatsnext/
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FORBIDDEN. YOU DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO "WHAT'S NEXT" ON THIS SERVER.

Steam to the rescue:

Robert Kirkman said:
Hi,

This is Robert Kirkman from Skybound and I am the creator of The Walking Dead.

I’m a huge fan of what OVERKILL and Starbreeze have been able to do with PAYDAY 2. It’s just an amazing co-operative game and I’m excited to be able to announce that Skybound is partnering with OVERKILL to make a Walking Dead game. I’m happy to say that it’s the co-op game that all of the Walking Dead fans have been waiting for.

And for all the PAYDAY 2 fans out there, this is for you.

Robert
Skybound Entertainment
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ZZZzzzzzz. While I'm glad Overkill is doing something different from Payday, and I'm glad Robert Kirkman is getting money/paid with all this Walking Dead hysteria... I'm not sure the two are a good combo.
 
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Saligia

Neo Member
Hi, I just picked Payday 2 up this week and I have what may be an extremely dumb question. I bought a mod for one of my weapons and after unlocking a new item, I unequipped the mod to compare the base stats on my current gun and a new gun. Now I have the mod in my inventory, but how do I get it back on my gun? It shows "In Stock: 2" on the mod, but my only option is Craft Modification, which says it's going to charge me for the mod. Am I missing something or can you not move items from your inventory back onto a weapon?
Thanks!
 
O.DOGG

O.DOGG

Member
Saligia said:
Hi, I just picked Payday 2 up this week and I have what may be an extremely dumb question. I bought a mod for one of my weapons and after unlocking a new item, I unequipped the mod to compare the base stats on my current gun and a new gun. Now I have the mod in my inventory, but how do I get it back on my gun? It shows "In Stock: 2" on the mod, but my only option is Craft Modification, which says it's going to charge me for the mod. Am I missing something or can you not move items from your inventory back onto a weapon?
Thanks!
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You pay for installing weapon mods in this game. It's dumb, I know.
 
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colt92

Neo Member
Saligia said:
Hi, I just picked Payday 2 up this week and I have what may be an extremely dumb question. I bought a mod for one of my weapons and after unlocking a new item, I unequipped the mod to compare the base stats on my current gun and a new gun. Now I have the mod in my inventory, but how do I get it back on my gun? It shows "In Stock: 2" on the mod, but my only option is Craft Modification, which says it's going to charge me for the mod. Am I missing something or can you not move items from your inventory back onto a weapon?
Thanks!
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It's just as the guy above said. But you don't need to remove the mods from a weapon to compare the base stats, the game shows them to you in your inventory. Or you can just go to the buying menu and compare them there.
 
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NZNova

Member
So it sounds like they're hugely buffing the money and xp payout of most heists in the new beta to try and alleviate the issue of people just farming Rats all day, and reducing the impact of the Heat system as a result.

Yay. GO Bank might be worth doing!
 
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TheSeks

Blinded by the luminous glory that is David Bowie's physical manifestation.
NZNova said:
So it sounds like they're hugely buffing the money and xp payout of most heists in the new beta to try and alleviate the issue of people just farming Rats all day, and reducing the impact of the Heat system as a result.
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LMAO. Something they should've done in the first fucking place instead of that horseshit "don't repeat RATS all day" system they tried to use to discourage that.

What is solving the biggest problem your player base has with your game for $500, Alex.
 
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colt92

Neo Member
Valkrai said:
There's also the rumored Gage Assault Pack finally being revealed and released tomorrow

http://www.overkillsoftware.com/gageassaultpack

Some pretty cool weapons and
Hell yeah GL40!

The page also seems to take inspiration from a certain other Swedish FPS game.
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I like this kind of joke-references that Overkill does.

The weapons are pretty cool, but I kinda hoped one of them was
an ACR
. Plus I like that melee weapons now have
concealment
.
 
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TheSeks

Blinded by the luminous glory that is David Bowie's physical manifestation.
Valkrai said:
There's also the rumored Gage Assault Pack finally being revealed and released tomorrow

http://www.overkillsoftware.com/gageassaultpack

Some pretty cool weapons and
Hell yeah GL40!

The page also seems to take inspiration from a certain other Swedish FPS game.
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I'm laughing at the DICE-edited Gage. I'm sure Goldfarb got someone at DICE to do that for Overkill.

The FAMAS and G3 are worthwhile, but not at $4-5. That's nearly the price of the Big Bank heist and I simply can't support that.
 
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Valkrai

Member
colt92 said:
PAYDAY2 Hotline Miami DLC announced.

Discussion thread: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=892949

Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ozzz97AmKlQ

Announcement page: http://steamcommunity.com/games/218620/announcements/detail/220996972064636082

Releases on September 30th.
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Awesome, I like Hotline Miami and totally didn't expect this. Apparently a heist is also coming with this DLC.

In the trailer, I honestly
expected Old Hoxton to be there or something. Still missing him :(
 
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colt92

Neo Member
The Payday 2 Big Fat Music Update is going to be released today. And yes, they really called it like that.

Announcement link: http://steamcommunity.com/games/218620/announcements/detail/220997627008059340

Update webpage: http://www.overkillsoftware.com/bigfatmusicupdate/

Custom playlists, choice of specific music for certain heists, sync music with the host and choice of menu music. We'll even be able to change the playlist or song for a particular day in the loadout screen.
Three more songs from the PAYDAY2 soundtrack will be available to use, plus we'll also get extra tracks from all the soundtrack DLC we own from both PAYDAY2 and Payday: The Heist.

Overkill has posted a tutorial in YouTube narrated by Simon Viklund: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSOYnp7UXdw

Oh, and the update is free, of course.
 
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TheSeks

Blinded by the luminous glory that is David Bowie's physical manifestation.
Well, Hotline Miami is going up on Tuesday for $6.99

Seems we're going to do the first of the "free old Hoxton" thing with this cross-over of getting a diplomat out of a hotel or killing him. Seems linked to the "hotline" in Hotline Miami or something. Not sure how I feel so far since it's very minimal information.
 
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colt92

Neo Member
I was expecting a 3+ day heist, but it looks like it's going to be a few heists instead. Damn it. Still looks kinda cool, and we're getting a Tec9.
We'll see if the 6.99 are worth it.
 
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Valkrai

Member
Kinda hoped the Hotline Miami DLC would be free but damn, it looks good. I'm wondering though how it'll tie into Old Hoxton and the breakout.

Edit: looked up a bit more on the page. It seems that "Day 1" may be the Motel and if you cause enough noise or do something, there should be another day where you take out The Commissar. Also, not sure if the DA will be a part of the motel or its own level.
 
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colt92

Neo Member
Weapons reveal is live gentlemen.

We are getting the Uzi, the Tec9, the Skorpion, a machete, a baseball bat, an axe, a cleaver, and a mysterious suitcase. Will that be the weapon or they aren't just revealing it yet? It has the 50 Blessings symbol next to it...
 
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colt92

Neo Member
The rest of the info is live: new masks, patterns, colours and achievements.

Stuff marked with the 50 Blessings symbol is only available to Hotline Miami owners. Will be available as a Pro Heist.
 
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Valkrai

Member
colt92 said:
The rest of the info is live: new masks, patterns, colours and achievements.

Stuff marked with the 50 Blessings symbol is only available to Hotline Miami owners. Will be available as a Pro Heist.
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Excited for this DLC, will be getting it and showing it off.

I'm sad that some items will be locked because I don't own Hotline Miami.
 
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TheSeks

Blinded by the luminous glory that is David Bowie's physical manifestation.
Valkrai said:
I'm sad that some items will be locked because I don't own Hotline Miami.
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LUA script will probably unlock it, unless they patched that finally.

I think I may have a -50% Hotline Miami coupon as well if you want it, but it may possibly be ate by now.
 
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Valkrai

Member
TheSeks said:
LUA script will probably unlock it, unless they patched that finally.

I think I may have a -50% Hotline Miami coupon as well if you want it, but it may possibly be ate by now.
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Coupons don't work now, it expired the day before but I still appreciate the gesture.
 
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TheSeks

Blinded by the luminous glory that is David Bowie's physical manifestation.
Valkrai said:
Coupons don't work now, it expired the day before but I still appreciate the gesture.
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Well, Hotline Miami regularly goes on sale for $1-$3 and is actually a good indie title. So I recommend it even without this cross-over anyway.
 
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unknownhero

Member
so, what does everyone think of the new heist? I love it personally. I usually find the mandatory loud heists to be super tough but this one seems easier for some reason but it's still a challenge. plus a 11 million payday is nothing to point your nose up.
 
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voodooray

Member
unknownhero said:
so, what does everyone think of the new heist? I love it personally. I usually find the mandatory loud heists to be super tough but this one seems easier for some reason but it's still a challenge. plus a 11 million payday is nothing to point your nose up.
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I haven't got it yet, but have seen a few playthroughs online. My mind was struggling to keep track of where everything was on the map, as it seemed pretty daunting. Is it loud only?

I did see that someone screencapped earning a massive 1.7M XP though (Pro DW, 25% Framing Frame stealth bonus beforehand) =O.
 
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colt92

Neo Member
I love this heist! It's very fun to play, there are lots of stuff to do, the achievements are fun as well and it does have a Hotline Miami kind of vibe (partly thanks to the soundtrack). But man, it's going to be a pain in the ass to do it in Death Wish.
Skulldozerfest anyone?
I really think they nailed it in this one. It's going to be played a lot.

@voodooray: Loud only, yes. And it gives a fuckton of experience as well. About 800k in Overkill Pro (w/Infamy IV and aced Fast Learner, no bonuses). Very well worth the 30-40 minutes it takes to do both days.
 
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TheSeks

Blinded by the luminous glory that is David Bowie's physical manifestation.
voodooray said:
I haven't got it yet, but have seen a few playthroughs online. My mind was struggling to keep track of where everything was on the map, as it seemed pretty daunting. Is it loud only?

I did see that someone screencapped earning a massive 1.7M XP though (Pro DW, 25% Framing Frame stealth bonus beforehand) =O.
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Yeah, it's loud only to go with the Hotline Miami theme. As soon as you kill one or two of the guards they'll start to notice and the police will come in.

The meth lab on the upper floors switches between two or three rooms (I think two, I've only seen two) while the bottom floor/basement area is between two from what I saw.

Deathwish on the map is INSANE if you stick around longer than you need to in the first area.

Also I'm glad the Meth making is less "random" than Rats. Less reason to "blow the lab" (though you really don't need to on this one) or screw-up because they give you a (hazy due to the "gas" in the lab) hint in doing it and once you know the process it's simply "move here, wait 40 seconds. Do the other one, wait 40 seconds. Do the last one, wait 45 seconds. Meth. Repeat."
 
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