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Payton Oswalt (Pip the Troll) says Marvel is making Eternals 2

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sol_bad

Member
Of course they are, they wouldn't leave such severe story threads dangling.
I think the 2 groups structure that the first film left them in will work really well.
Sersi, Phastos and Kingo are with Arishem.
Makkari, Druig and Thena are in space with Pip and Eros.
I think it will be far more character driven since there is no back story to tell.

And I find it amazing that Patton Oswalt let this slip, did he really think they had already announced it?
 

ManaByte

Member
Of course they are, they wouldn't leave such severe story threads dangling.
I think the 2 groups structure that the first film left them in will work really well.
Sersi, Phastos and Kingo are with Arishem.
Makkari, Druig and Thena are in space with Pip and Eros.
I think it will be far more character driven since there is no back story to tell.

And I find it amazing that Patton Oswalt let this slip, did he really think they had already announced it?

They also want the $2 billion box office the Harry Styles stans will give them.
 

Bitmap Frogs

Mr. Community
Oh god why.

I'm pissed enough that the first movie in the mcu to focus on these cosmic entities turned out to be shit, now they wanna double dip?
 

Pagusas

Elden Member
Doc Brown GIF by Back to the Future Trilogy


The first Eternals movie was the most mind-numbingly pointless movie I’ve ever seen.
you never know, maybe with all the horrible exposition and setup out of the way, the next film could let the actors shine and give us a meaty good plot? I say give them another shot and kill them all horribly if they screw up again. Would be a great way to setup the next avengers film, with all the eternals being killed horribly in the first hour.
 

bitbydeath

Gold Member
Why do some people use the word "pointless" for this film? It tells a complete story with an ending. Why is it pointless?
It didn’t feel like it was connected to the MCU, other than a few obvious call-outs. It was very different and not in a good way.

They also seem very comparable to Mr Satan where there powers are mostly hubris.
 

sol_bad

Member
It didn’t feel like it was connected to the MCU, other than a few obvious call-outs. It was very different and not in a good way.

They also seem very comparable to Mr Satan where there powers are mostly hubris.

Let's pretend the film wasn't a part of the MCU. There are 1000 movies released a year that aren't connected to the MCU. Are they all pointless?
 

BadBurger

Many “Whelps”! Handle It!
Oh god why.

I'm pissed enough that the first movie in the mcu to focus on these cosmic entities turned out to be shit, now they wanna double dip?

I read the Eternals reboot from Gaiman and Romita Jr. It was a very good story with some compelling characters (edit: it's free via Comixology if you have Prime). Zhao (and I suppose Marvel Studios for giving her so much leeway) pretty much came in and butchered the characters and the story. If they had adapted it even somewhat faithfully I'd have loved it.

As it is I mirror what many on the internet are asking given this news: Why? Is there really a significant amount of people out there who wants more of that?
 
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Bitmap Frogs

Mr. Community
I read the Eternals reboot from Gaiman and Romita Jr. It was a very good story with some compelling characters (edit: it's free via Comixology if you have Prime). Zhao (and I suppose Marvel Studios for giving her so much leeway) pretty much came in and butchered the characters and the story. If they had adapted it even somewhat faithfully I'd have loved it.

As it is I mirror what many on the internet are asking given this news: Why? Is there really a significant amount of people out there who wants more of that?

We’ve fully entered the hubris phase of the mcu. As in “whatever we do makes money”. The fact they released black widow in phase 4 proves they’ve abandoned the discipline that lead to their success.

I suppose some exec got pissy his movie bombed and wants a redo.
 

MastaKiiLA

Member
It's expected. It's probably an important part of the over-arching, multi-phase story that they're trying to spin. The celestials will probably play a large role, and the Eternals are a required part of telling that story...I guess.

As Lady Jane Lady Jane already said, tighten up the plot on this one. The last one was trying to tell way too many different storylines, and I came away not caring about any of the characters, as I had so little time to invest in any one of them. Less talky-talky too, and more action would be nice. The action scenes in the first film kinda sucked too. I don't know if they had the right director on the project. She's a talented director, but the comic book genre isn't for everyone, as Ang Lee demonstrated with the first Hulk film.
 

MastaKiiLA

Member
I don't think many people here realise that the majority of audiences liked this film. If anyone is saying people don't like it due to it's box office, it's not a fair measure as it released during COVID.
Good point. I think we're also going to see fans more divided on the coming slate of movies, because Marvel seems intent on broadening their audience base. The coming phases look to have a bit of something for everyone. Eternals landed flat with me, but it's cool that there are people that liked it. I like the more action-focused films. Or the funny ones like Ragnarok. But I think it's good what they're doing, and ultimately, I'm interested in how the Celestials and Eternals fit into the bigger picture. I don't have to like them, so long as they push events forward in the universe.
 
I don't think many people here realise that the majority of audiences liked this film. If anyone is saying people don't like it due to it's box office, it's not a fair measure as it released during COVID.
It not only bombed at the box office, but also has the worst cinemascore of the entire MCU to date...
 
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The Eternals run by Gillen and the Eternals story now in AXE Judgement and what just happened in Arakko in X-Men Red #5 are great.

The movie sucks a lot of ass. I have no faith the sequel will be good and I have no interest in seeing it.
 

sol_bad

Member
It not only bombed at the box office, but also has the worst cinemascore of the entire MCU to date...

I don't know why anyone takes cinemascore seriously. It's a few random chosen cinemas on a single night, so the score is from 1000 people or so.

MoM had a B+ and made 950 million.
 

Blade2.0

Member
Eternals was better than Thor Dark World and they really turned him around as a character. let's give em a chance. they just need to make the eternals look stronger. i felt like the avengers could take them one on one sometimes and these guys are supposed to be cosmic entities.
 

Azurro

Banned
Thor fell way short of their projections and they want to do a sequel to this bomb? lol, ok. This new MCU phase is ridiculous.
 

Tams

Member
Thor fell way short of their projections and they want to do a sequel to this bomb? lol, ok. This new MCU phase is ridiculous.
I don't know what their projections were, but Thor: Love and Thunder has done pretty well. It's done better than Ragnarok when you take into account it won't release in either Russia or China.

Haven't watched Love & Thunder but I hear it's nowhere as good as Ragnarok.
'Nowhere near as good' is just people being silly. It has got a lot more humour, quite a bit of it quite basic, in it. And perhaps that's not for you. It's still worth a watch.
 

Bitmap Frogs

Mr. Community
I don't know what their projections were, but Thor: Love and Thunder has done pretty well. It's done better than Ragnarok when you take into account it won't release in either Russia or China.


'Nowhere near as good' is just people being silly. It has got a lot more humour, quite a bit of it quite basic, in it. And perhaps that's not for you. It's still worth a watch.

Ragnarok was a decent, fun romp that knew when to joke and when to give room to the audience for the emotional moments to land.
 

Wildebeest

Member
Search "eternals is a flop" and oh my god look at all those articles this film bombed harder than any movie ever made before and everyone hated it.

Search "eternals is a success" and oh it looks like it was a huge record-breaking success on Disney+, I guess Marvel did it again.

It's called a filter bubble.
 

Yoda

Member
200M budget for 401M in box office. Sounds like it barely broke even as the marketing costs generally are only partially included in the top line production budgets numbers. Very low by marvel/comic book movies standards, esp w/the "stacked cast". If Batgirl's cancellation is anything to go by, the industry is probably going to (slowly) pivot back to crowd pleasers.
 

ManaByte

Member
200M budget for 401M in box office. Sounds like it barely broke even as the marketing costs generally are only partially included in the top line production budgets numbers. Very low by marvel/comic book movies standards, esp w/the "stacked cast". If Batgirl's cancellation is anything to go by, the industry is probably going to (slowly) pivot back to crowd pleasers.

Amazing how people suddenly forget that movies were released in the middle of a pandemic.
 

sol_bad

Member
Haven't watched Love & Thunder but I hear it's nowhere as good as Ragnarok.

It pushes the humour even harder and even zanier than Ragnarok. But it also increases the emotional aspects further than what Ragnarok did.
The reason I say that about the emotional aspect, using Ragnarok as an example, there was zero emotional depth when Odin died, the scene moved on to the next plot point asap and there was no time to process what happened to Odin. Then you have Asgard being destroyed at the end, it was very light hearted and the film threw jokes in your face as Asgard was destroyed. Love and Thunder on the other hand lets the emotional beats breath within the respective scenes.

If you like over the top humour and you can accept logic breaking humour you should enjoy the film.
 
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